Continuity with Professor X- Wolverine and First Class

#1 Edited by SpidermanWins (3962 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

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Ok so as many of you may know.

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The Professor breaks his back after getting shot by a deflected bullet from an enraged Magneto. He even says "My legs! I can't feel my legs!". Later at the very end Charles is seen in a wheelchair and jokes about how soon he'll start going bald. Which, if you know anything, is ironically hilarious.

However, when he said that the first thing that popped into my mind was him as a bald old man. The first image that appeared confused me. It was that cameo at the end of X-men Origins: Wolverine. He was standing, which shocked most people. This suggested that he was still able to walk at this time.
That was just after the Vietnam War, kids. X-men First Class takes place during the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 60s. Confused? So was I. Another thing was that he was bald in Wolverine. Bald and mobile after the Vietnam War and with hair and wheelchair bound in the 60s? That doesn't seem entirely possible does it? Now of course that cameo could have very well been an illusion from the Professor but it certainly did not seem like it. I would really just love to blot X-Men Origins: Wolverine out of existence but unfortunately what is done cannot be undone. Your thoughts?

PS: Oh and another thing- Did you see another cameo in First Class? William Stryker! He was the one whose mind Charles had read in the CIA meeting. The Professor gets information about his son William which he finds very interesting. Later he states his familiar beliefs that "a war is coming" soon after being one of the first people on the planet to know of mutants' existence.The only thing is that Stryker seems older here than in X2! When will the continuity errors stop!!!??

#2 Posted by SoA (3529 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

i talked about the movies with my roommate not 5 minutes ago lol, i likened it to a flash fire each film having something atrocious about them snuffing out the others atrociousness ,in this case the next film will completely ignore the past two films like having hope summers and bishop as teen members for the next film and have stryfe as the villian without ever mentioning cable bc thats how bad these films are, real bad

#3 Posted by SpidermanWins (3962 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Oh no another copy issue

#4 Posted by SpidermanWins (3962 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@SoA said:

i talked about the movies with my roommate not 5 minutes ago lol, i likened it to a flash fire each film having something atrocious about them snuffing out the others atrociousness ,in this case the next film will completely ignore the past two films like having hope summers and bishop as teen members for the next film and have stryfe as the villian without ever mentioning cable bc thats how bad these films are, real bad

That's Hollywood bro

#5 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (6412 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.

#6 Edited by SpidermanWins (3962 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Omega Ray Jay said:

The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.

why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post

#7 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27557 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@SpidermanWins said:

@Omega Ray Jay said:
The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.
why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post

There are two William Strykers. X-2's and his father, the one in First Class. You say that the one in First Class is older and that's a continuity error, but in fact, they're two different people with the same name.

#8 Edited by SpidermanWins (3962 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@SpidermanWins said:
@Omega Ray Jay said:
The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.
why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post
There are two William Strykers. X-2's and his father, the one in First Class. You say that the one in First Class is older and that's a continuity error, but in fact, they're two different people with the same name.

WWHHHHAAAAT? Hmm.... I've got the same name as my father too (its also confusing) but my name is way cooler and should be the name of an action hero. I think I may have heard that about him having a father with the same name once but I forgot.

#9 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (8915 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@SpidermanWins said:

@Omega Ray Jay said:

The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.
why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post
There are two William Strykers. X-2's and his father, the one in First Class. You say that the one in First Class is older and that's a continuity error, but in fact, they're two different people with the same name.

pleas tell me you're joking

#10 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27557 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@SpidermanWins said:

@Omega Ray Jay said:

The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.
why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post
There are two William Strykers. X-2's and his father, the one in First Class. You say that the one in First Class is older and that's a continuity error, but in fact, they're two different people with the same name.
pleas tell me you're joking

Nope, that appears to be the case. Please prove me wrong if I am.

#11 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (8915 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@SpidermanWins said:

@Omega Ray Jay said:

The William Stryker whose mind he read was thinking about his son William, the Stryker that would initiate Weapon X. And hopefuly Odin willing we can all just forget that Wolverine abortion of a movie.
why did you underline son? I know man... I put it in the initial post
There are two William Strykers. X-2's and his father, the one in First Class. You say that the one in First Class is older and that's a continuity error, but in fact, they're two different people with the same name.
pleas tell me you're joking
Nope, that appears to be the case. Please prove me wrong if I am.

oh god......F*&^ You Fox Studios

#12 Posted by King Quisling (1980 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

the Stryker in First Class is William Stryker Sr.

#13 Posted by lokiofmidgaard (331 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

On Charles walking and bald in Wolverine: Origins, or still walking and working with Magneto in X3 when they go to see Jean Grey, but in a wheelchair and with Magneto left to lead the Hellfire Club / proto-Brotherhood by the end of First Class, don't forget that in the comics Prof X has regained and then relost the use of his legs multiple times, and he's reconciled and fallen out again with Magneto several times too. It's not great stretch for that to happen in the movies, even if we never get to see it happen (e.g. the next couple of films don't explain the apparent contradictions). Ditto the kids in Origins who seem to be Banshee and Emma Frost - people with similar powers (which the two Emmas appears to be, given that the one in Origins was Silver Fox's sister), children of the ones seen in First Class, the ones in First Class deaged, clones, you name it, there's tons of ways that this could be reconciled in a universe full of superpowers.

It's like Sabretooth not matching between Origins and the first X-Men movie. Two Sabretooths who simply share the same codename. Origins Sabretooth further mutated into first movie Sabretooth thanks to Weapon X experiments. Origins Sabretooth mutated in mind and body when his healing factor got overloaded, resulting in him becoming first movie Sabretooth. Etc.

The point is, the continuity conflicts can be reconciled, but the filmmakers' intent that all five movies are meant to share a single universe is clear.

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