Comic Vine Podcast 2-14-14

Love is in the air. Actually, maybe something else is in the air. Check out what Tony, Mat and Corey had to say about this week's titles as they go super in depth on them...when not distracted by a bunch of other stuff. Plus MMA fighting is mentioned. Wax on!

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Listened all the way to the end. To. The. End.

I love it. It's like an easter egg for those that listen all the way to end and those that just stop the podcast when the track starts.

And I'm commenting "twice."

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Do what you have to do to get Jen on the podcast. Starting to feel like the same goofy stuff as last week and the week before.

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Still listened to the end. Usually I will wait about 30 seconds or until the first "shift" in the song ends when I'm closing out my weekly podcast. But that's just me.

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@liveforever: It used to be. Usually it is. This is a recent thing. It's done when I remember to do it, otherwise it's post.

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I listened right to the end

feeling proud

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You guys went crazy with the outro! :P Listened all the way through tho. haha

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@snarkybits: Geez, was Sara still on the podcast this time last year? It seems so long ago now. She's greatly missed.

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I really appreciate how careful you guys are with spoilers. I had avoided the big reveal at the end of Batman 28 and it was such a delightful surprise. It makes it a lot easier to enjoy the podcasts as they're released each week without fear of ruining an issue.

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@lifeboy said:

@inferiorego: Is that true? Do dc readers go by 'fanboys' and marvel readers go by 'zombies'? That's freakin halarious!

And sorry about the comment indirectly aimed at you. Your points beat my points about FE.

Fanboy is universal, but I remember calling hardcore Marvel fans, when I was a kid "Marvel Zombies," which indirectly became an amazing mini-series

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@inferiorego: Is that true? Do dc readers go by 'fanboys' and marvel readers go by 'zombies'? That's freakin halarious!

And sorry about the comment indirectly aimed at you. Your points beat my points about FE.

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Favorite part of this podcast was learning that the end music isn't put in in post-production editing. Funny little surprise.

Great podcast fellas!

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@lifeboy said:

IT WAS JUST FANBOY WHINNERS HATING AS USUAL. Don't listen to them!

You were making a good point right until this sentence.

FE Blight is incredibly ambitious, and I give DC a TON of credit for trying it, but there are some huge problems with it.

Ray Fawkes has been having this problem with over-using dialogue, especially in the last issue of CONSTANTINE. The idea is to show and not tell, but I felt like this whole issue was narration and long monologues. It felt like Bond villains talking. I think Fawkes is a fine writer and I loved his set-up for the CONSTANTINE book, when he used dialogue and narration a tad more sparingly.

PANDORA, and to a lesser extent CONSTANTINE, are suffering from tie-in syndrome. Both these books have been around less than a year and both have been involved in two tie-in events. The books haven't had a chance to grow on their own, which is not only important for Pandora, a new character, but very important for Constantine, who is being redefined and reshaped in his solo book, at least he should be. Forcing these books into a larger story disrupts flow these books could have. Example: Remember that one amazing story run in NIGHTWING where he goes to Chicago? Most of the rest of the series was forced into someone else's story arc and it really hurt the book in the long run.

This is subjective, but the idea of Blight is incredibly silly and if they really wanted to make it work, they would have done this in the background of the dark books for months rather than shoehorn it in, in a flash, in order to tie it into a larger event, which doesn't have too much to do with this story.

To be fair, this isn't a Dark books problem or a JM Dematteis or Ray Fawkes problem, this is a DC problem. They don't let books, that aren't Batman, grow on their own. They force them into these long, drawn-out, crossover storylines and lose site of what they used to be amazing at, character development. I'm not reading everything at DC, but to me, there's only two books (again, aside from BATMAN) that have done a great job at building characters and developing the books to their fullest potential: ALL STAR WESTERN and WONDER WOMAN. The rest of the books feel like they get three-four issues of something cool, then some weird cross-over story that destroys everything that was built up. This is where I have to state that I'm a DC fan so I don't get called a Marvel Zombie, right?

Frankly, I wouldn't have even replied if it wasn't for that last sentence. The inverse of that is me saying you have bad taste in comics, which you obviously don't have. Sure, there are genuine people that just hate to hate, and yes, I know your comments aren't directed at me, or at least I'd hope not, but it just makes your whole argument null and void to me the second you attack the opposing side.

Sorry for the essay.

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Dear Agents of S.H.E.I.D; Put some freaking Marvel Universe characters in your stupid freaking show if I am going to watch it. It say's "Marvel's" at the beginning so give us some damn Marvels. Thank you. *********Listened to it ALLLL! I really like the podcasts songs so hearing the whole thing, even with the commentary was pretty cool.

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Lmao, this weeks episode had a post credits stinger!

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Haha I listened all the way through. :) I love the second part of that song.

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Haha that ending aaaandd scene!

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Good show guys as always

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:)

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Lol I listened all the way.

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Still listening.

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@lifeboy: Wrong about what? I have checked those titles out and I have been liking them too. That's what I meant about the character development. lol

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@iceslick: I think I might be wrong about that iceslick. It maybe the one you read and didn't like. I read pandora7, jLD27 and phantom stranger16. Awww man, if you haven't checked those out, you need to do so, especially phantom stranger. It will destroy you and then build you back up again with confidence that those titles are in good hands of writers and artists! :)

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...And scene

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@lifeboy: I really hope so. I'm just pissed how Nightmare Nurse turned out to not be her at all. I'm kind of confused in a way because I saw her chained up too. All that character development that I like about her went to waste and that's true Forever Evil: Blight did have great character development. It's the only reason why I was enjoying it.

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Great podcast guys! And yes, I was still listening. And I was still listening the second time. And scene.

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Aw man the very end of that song is the best part!!! Let it play that long every time.

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MORE MUSIC!

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@iceslick: the next constantine should be good. When the team takes on what looks like a anime rape mechine that zatanna, orchid and frankenstien are straped to. :)

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Can't wait to listen tomorrow on my way into work..

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@lifeboy said:

IT WAS NOT BAD! IT WAS JUST FANBOY WHINNERS HATING AS USUAL. Don't listen to them!

Thank You!

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I listened to the whole thing!

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I'm still listening. I went all the way through that hot jam.

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Haha ha that photo shop

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LESS MUSIC!

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