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    Phoenix Force

    Character » Phoenix Force appears in 1615 issues.

    A powerful cosmic entity, an immortal being representing the Life-Death-Rebirth cycle, all current and future life, and is the nexus of all psychic energy ever to have existed, to exist or will exist. It has, at times, chosen a host to live within, granting the vessel nigh-omnipotent power. It has the power to create or destroy anything, or everything. The Phoenix has had various hosts, but the most well known and frequent host is the mortal mutant Jean Grey.

    Rachel or Jean

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    #1  Edited By Firechild

    Say Jean and Phoenix were separated and Phoenix had a choice between Jean or Rachel.

    I say Jean. She fully accesses the Phoenix and Phoenix has this obession with her.It won't let her die!!!!!!!!!

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    #2  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    Rachel. She is a much better character and i'm sick of Jean. Let her stay dead.

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    #3  Edited By iSHADOW

    i would hope that it would choose rachel.

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    #4  Edited By Firechild

    The Phoenix would probaly be doing Jean a favor if it chose Rachel!

    I wish that Jean could just have some peace!!!!!

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    #5  Edited By iSHADOW

    Firechild says:

    "But now there is no separation.Jean has to gather "her" pieces.I think she would have to after that whole thing with Emma and Scott and Scott doesn't love her and BLA BLA BLAlol"

    this is why she needs to stay dead

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    #6  Edited By Firechild

    But now there is no separation.

    Jean has to gather "her" pieces.

    I think she would have to after that whole thing with Emma and Scott and Scott doesn't love her and BLA BLA BLA

    lol

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    #7  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    iSHADOW says:

    "Firechild says:
    "But now there is no separation.Jean has to gather "her" pieces.I think she would have to after that whole thing with Emma and Scott and Scott doesn't love her and BLA BLA BLAlol"

    this is why she needs to stay dead"

    And also why that crap needs to be retconned asap.

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    #8  Edited By pixelized

    Rachel is a hot mess....let the phoenix have her if she finds some sytle and a hot comb

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    #9  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    fesak says:

    "Rachel. She is a much better character and i'm sick of Jean. Let her stay dead."
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    #10  Edited By Djinn

    The Phoenix would definetly pick Jean over Rachel anytime. The Phoenix was in Jean the longest and stays in her. The Phoenix simply loves Jean much more than Rachel.

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    #11  Edited By IcePrince_X

    Djinn says:

    "The Phoenix would definetly pick Jean over Rachel anytime. The Phoenix was in Jean the longest and stays in her. The Phoenix simply loves Jean much more than Rachel."

    Rachel is the daughter of the Phoenix... the storyline is not much explored but it has a bearing to the person of Rachel... she is the only one with no true identical person in any Marvel Universe as claimed by her creator and Marvel.

    So, I guess, I will go with Rachel.

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    #12  Edited By Djinn

    Rachel doesnt but in almost every universe we see in marvel the Phoenix is drawn to Jean Grey.

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    #13  Edited By Korg

    Jean. Rachel is too impetuous and immature to wield so much power, IMO.

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    Jean.Stories Much Better When She's in It

                                  Rachel is too young!
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    #15  Edited By Swagga Vance

    Rachel.

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    #16  Edited By Korg

    Jean. Rachel wildly abused the power of the Phoenix for a personal vendetta. Her character was interesting in the 80s, but since then all she's done is prove that she's a pale reflection of Jean. She has all this power and does virtually nothing with it. I wish they would kill her off and leave the whole of the Phoenix Force thing dead for about a decade.

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    #17  Edited By Marcus Cole

    I'd rather see Rachel with it. Jean is stale as hell.

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    #18  Edited By Maddie X

    now i think about it they should just let the phoenix thing go
    I mean im seriously confused about the whole story
    let phoenix have some peace 

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    #19  Edited By Firechild
    Korg said:
    "Jean. Rachel wildly abused the power of the Phoenix for a personal vendetta. Her character was interesting in the 80s, but since then all she's done is prove that she's a pale reflection of Jean. She has all this power and does virtually nothing with it. I wish they would kill her off and leave the whole of the Phoenix Force thing dead for about a decade."
    I sort of agree. But I do think Jean is the true Phoenix, Rachel is just really powerful
    Jean is prettier anyway
    The spikes and cruecut thing doesn't work for me
    Yay!! Style!!!


    Nope! Denial!

    Shes better now but I still prefer Jean
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    #20  Edited By VtwinsV

    i agree, jean is the best, and your wrong jan is stronger than rachel & prettier inside and out, thats the reason why the phoenix force is obsessed with her cause she is the most powerful not rachel duh! look it up in different sites jean is the most powerful! with telepathic powers, telekinesis, and cosmic powers. with her telepathic ability she can do anything any psychic can do, read minds, brainwash, mind control, create realistic illusions, possess you or a mutant and use thier powers, hypnosis, create psionic-based constructs(which with her telekinesis can do both mental and physical damage, precognition, post cognition, control your bodily functions ( through this she can jumpstart your abilities and even your mutant abilities, she can let the mind heal the body, and even disable you of your senses, ability to walk, or even your mutant ability) ,she can play mind games in your head, can form her astral form to phase through physical objects and can attack you mentally or if combined with her telekinesis attack you physically like a ghost, Turn your emotions against you, especially inducing great fear on you. and her psychic power when she switched powers with psylocke and lost her telekinesis for a while, her psychic powers were honed to the sharpest edge, meaning they could damage the physical world (how awesome is that!!!) , she can percieve things like hidden information that not a normal human can, as the saying goes the mind infuences the physical world maybe for jean her psychic powers are deadly alright. rachel is just a sick copier who thinks she is better than her mom but really jean can defeat her anytime again and again and again! what? you know i'm right!!!!

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    #21  Edited By SUNMAN

    they both suck

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    #22  Edited By dane

    Jean Grey.

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    #23  Edited By WARLOCK2792

    Jean Grey IS Phoenix.  Rachel is second best.

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    #24  Edited By geraldthesloth

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    maybe Giraud though

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