The One Above All, the most powerful fictional character?

#1 Posted by bi0 (6 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

The One Above All from the Marvel comics ... is he the most powerful fictional character ever created?
What do you think?

If I think about the comics ... especially the three largest universes (Marvel, DC and Image) I think about their three true God-characters ...
- The One Above All (Marvel)
- The Presence (DC)
- Man Of Miracles (Image)

While you could think that they're all equally powerful, it's probably still not true, because I see the Presence and the Man Of Miracles as God-characters who were created to be the most powerful in their universes.
But the One Above All seems to be special, since it's supposed to be the writer. Let's take Stan Lee, one of the big names in the Marvel comics. Let's assume that he the main writer from the Marvel comics who is the One Above All. He is the one who has the power to do with the character whatever he wants. Even if someone decides to bring in a different character into the Marvel comics who can rival the One Above All, in the end TOAA would still win because the writers could simply kill off that character in a weird way.

Of course it's not only about comics, but about simply everything.
And let's not take the christian God as a character and say that he could take Stan Lee's life, because there are many people who don't even believe in God - I'm one of them, so the Bibel, the Koran and so on shouldn't be a part of this discussion.

Is there a fictional character who can compete with something like that?
If we would put them all into the same universe and let them fight. Could someone be able to defeat the One Above All, who is basically the person who created the entire fictional universe the character is in and is morphing it around on a daily basis. In the past, in the presence and in the future.

#2 Posted by EdBlank (313 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Fictional characters can't actually "do" anything, so no. No character can beat the writer.

#3 Posted by Apothecary2 (53 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@EdBlank: Well the-One-Above-All is actually the artist as shown when he drew the thing back to life.

#4 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@Apothecary2 said:

@EdBlank: Well the-One-Above-All is actually the artist as shown when he drew the thing back to life.

One Above All is the most powerful.

#5 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago - Show Bio

One Above All = The Presence = Man Of Miracles.

#6 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Bugs bunny >>>>(times infinity)>>>>all of them combined

#7 Posted by eliasw123 (23 posts) - 9 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@super_psycho: Nothing can be Infinity Everything no matter what multiverse you count time cant be infinity not even if i take 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 and upon millons plus fillions upon that i dont know more upon a that is even not Infinity is infinty Even all that exist in a fitcion in al realitys no matter what

Time cant be infinity Nothing can.

#8 Posted by AweSam (3918 posts) - 9 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Apothecary2 said:

@EdBlank: Well the-One-Above-All is actually the artist as shown when he drew the thing back to life.

Then he's not omnipotent, he's just a powerful reality warper.

#9 Posted by TheSpeed (6 posts) - 9 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Well, it basically a tie but if the presence and the great evil beast were to fuse then it would be The Great Presence :)

#10 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 9 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

IMO TOAA is the most powerful fictional character. Yes, there's the fact that he is the writer but more to it, is that his omnipotence is closer than anyone in all fictional. Let's take Presence for example, he has stalemated GEB, that alone puts him below omnipotence.

Also, there's the fact, that Marvel is by a long shot, the most powerful fictional verse. And mostly because of that, I consider TOAA to be the most powerful character. Because you can see the difference between a verse and another. For example if an omnipotent being has problem creating one universe, he would likely be on Galactus' level, not LT's or TOAA's level for that matter.

#11 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (3493 posts) - 9 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

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TOAA may write it but he can censor and rewrite it as well as control whats written :3

#12 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

IMO TOAA is the most powerful fictional character. Yes, there's the fact that he is the writer but more to it, is that his omnipotence is closer than anyone in all fictional. Let's take Presence for example, he has stalemated GEB, that alone puts him below omnipotence.
Also, there's the fact, that Marvel is by a long shot, the most powerful fictional verse. And mostly because of that, I consider TOAA to be the most powerful character. Because you can see the difference between a verse and another. For example if an omnipotent being has problem creating one universe, he would likely be on Galactus' level, not LT's or TOAA's level for that matter.

Man of Miracles is also omnipotent. Pre-retcon Beyonder was as well, but then again, its.... half-contradictory.

@eliasw123 said:

@super_psycho: Nothing can be Infinity Everything no matter what multiverse you count time cant be infinity not even if i take 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 and upon millons plus fillions upon that i dont know more upon a that is even not Infinity is infinty Even all that exist in a fitcion in al realitys no matter what
Time cant be infinity Nothing can.

I can easily argue with this, but I don't want to.

Truthfully, TOAA is not infinitely powerful, because TOAA does not possess unity. Thus, "true omnipotence"...... is not really the case.

#13 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

The most powerful being in comics.

#14 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: Yes but Marvel>Image, that's why I consider Toaa "more" omnipotent... in a way....Beyonder isn't omnipotent...

#15 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@ShootingNova: Yes but Marvel>Image, that's why I consider Toaa "more" omnipotent... in a way....Beyonder isn't omnipotent...

Irrelevant. Simply because other characters in said verse are more powerful than characters in another in general does nothing to change the fact that omnipotent = omnipotent.

Pre-retcon was.

#16 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@kingkronos said:
@ShootingNova: Yes but Marvel>Image, that's why I consider Toaa "more" omnipotent... in a way....Beyonder isn't omnipotent...
Irrelevant. Simply because other characters in said verse are more powerful than characters in another in general does nothing to change the fact that omnipotent = omnipotent.
Pre-retcon was.

I know. Forget it. That's my weird reasoning.

No he wasn't. He was not able to bring lady death back to life.

#17 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: LOL.

Yes, but it was stated. You know, if you read my PM, I would have told you about the contradictory bits of "omnipotence" possessed by beings as such.

#18 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@kingkronos: LOL.
Yes, but it was stated. You know, if you read my PM, I would have told you about the contradictory bits of "omnipotence" possessed by beings as such.

It doesn't really matter if it was stated.... Marvel's Odin was stated to be omnipotent... He's a nigh omnipotent.

#19 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: When was Marvel Odin been stated? It was stated he was short of omnipotent if I recall well enough......

#20 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@kingkronos: When was Marvel Odin been stated? It was stated he was short of omnipotent if I recall well enough......

No it was. I don't have the scan, but I can promise you that it was stated directly. Obviously, marvel throws the word to symbolize that one is powerful nothing more.

#21 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 9 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: LOL.

#22 Posted by MastermindInfinitum (3 posts) - 9 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@bi0:actually The One Above All is Stan Lee AND Jack Kirby, the two main/greatest Marvel creators. The writers can create anything possible to whatever their minds think of! So if The One Above All is those main creators formed together as a fictional comic book character, they are the most powerful in categories such as imagination, creation, ability, and powers. SO yeah The One Above All may be considered as the most powerful comic book character ever in comic book history. Plus the Presence and Man of miracles are only the most powerful in their own UNIVERSES while TOAA is the most powerful among all multiverses and the one omniverse. :) thats my opinion!

#23 Posted by Metalslash (178 posts) - 3 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

Bugs bunny >>>>(times infinity)>>>>all of them combined

This

@EdBlank said:

Fictional characters can't actually "do" anything, so no. No character can beat the writer.

Toaa = writer

Bugs stomped his writer. Bugs is strongest fictional character ever.

@kingkronos said:

IMO TOAA is the most powerful fictional character. Yes, there's the fact that he is the writer but more to it, is that his omnipotence is closer than anyone in all fictional. Let's take Presence for example, he has stalemated GEB, that alone puts him below omnipotence.
Also, there's the fact, that Marvel is by a long shot, the most powerful fictional verse. And mostly because of that, I consider TOAA to be the most powerful character. Because you can see the difference between a verse and another. For example if an omnipotent being has problem creating one universe, he would likely be on Galactus' level, not LT's or TOAA's level for that matter.

By going through your logic, we have

Man of miracles > presence > toaa

Being a writer means nothing if you are comparing them to characters of other comic verses.Even in his own comic verse Toaa have competition with Fulcrum and Timut. toaa and fulcrum are writers and timut = fulcrum.

On the otherhand Presence didn't stalemated GeB. He defeated GeB and Absorbed him so now Geb is nothing but a part of presence. Presence don't have anybody equal to him though he faced a bit difficulty in doing that.

And MoM has nothing to compare him with. He is sole supreme being of image comic.

#24 Posted by Racob7 (732 posts) - 1 month, 17 days ago - Show Bio

One-Above-All

The One-Above-All is the most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse, and is said to be a representation of Jack Kirby (the chief concept creator of Marvel) himself.

This, sir. Is the most powerful of all.

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