- Odin is much stronger then average Celestials, excluding Arishem, One Above All etc, Odins power in recent years have grown to the point that he has matter and energy manipulation on universal scale which was shown in recent issues of Mighty Thor

- Galactus has shown enough power to one shot Celestials and even tear them apart, Odin can hold his own and potentially stalemate Galan

- Combined blast of Odin, Zeus and Vishnu that didn't harm Arishem was really stupid, and it was writers intention to demonstrate Celestial power, if Thor can crack their armors and harm them, then why combined blasts of 3 most powerful skyfathers did nothing?

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

@BigCimmerian said:

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

what has Galactus to do with that? Galactus is above Odin. Odin never stalemated Galactus, it was on mental state that he hold him for a short moment.

@BigCimmerian said:

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

The writing was not stupid....Odin was simply outclassed.

Technically Odin was alone, BUT had the whole race of Asgardians within him along with a portion of every godhead in existance power to aid him plus 1000 yrs prep. This was the most powerful incarnation we've seen of Odin and he was NOT even a match for a SINGLE Celestial.

@cosmic_reign said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

The writing was not stupid....Odin was simply outclassed.

Technically Odin was alone, BUT had the whole race of Asgardians within him along with a portion of every godhead in existance power to aid him plus 1000 yrs prep. This was the most powerful incarnation we've seen of Odin and he was NOT even a match for a SINGLE Celestial.

Average Asgardians are non factor. We've seen peak humans kill Asgardians. Doesn't that sound stupid that he need 1000 years of prep to create armor? I'm not sure that every skyfather was giving him power, do you have a scan of that?

@BigCimmerian said:

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

I'm afraid the stupid writing was Fraction having Odin giving Galactus even a remotely difficult time.

@BigCimmerian said:

@cosmic_reign said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@JediXMan said:

Since when is he above the Celestials? Odin, with prep, absorbed the souls of Asgard and entered the Destroyer Armor, and still got crushed when the Celestials came knocking.

Read what I wrote, it was stupid writing, if Galactus can one shot Celestials and Odin can hold his own/stalemate Galactus then Odin has good chance to easily beat single Celestial. I'm not talking about defeating 4th host, it was Odin alone vs 9 of them.

The writing was not stupid....Odin was simply outclassed.

Technically Odin was alone, BUT had the whole race of Asgardians within him along with a portion of every godhead in existance power to aid him plus 1000 yrs prep. This was the most powerful incarnation we've seen of Odin and he was NOT even a match for a SINGLE Celestial.

Average Asgardians are non factor. We've seen peak humans kill Asgardians. Doesn't that sound stupid that he need 1000 years of prep to create armor? I'm not sure that every skyfather was giving him power, do you have a scan of that?

1st- Lemme correct myself...Technically Odin was not alone. We tend to forget that the Unimind was with him which is obsolete considering it was destroyed within seconds of the confrontation. (which kinda indicates that the Host was more concerned about the Unimind rather than the amped Odin/Destroyer).

I didnt think it was stupid that Odin needed 1k yrs prep...i think Marvel wanted to be clear that Odin was extremely outclassed. IMO

I dont have a scan for ya, but believe me....its there on panel.