Anyone else catch the last issue of Nova (#21) and feel a little sick to their stomach? Since Annihilation, Nova has become one of my absolute favorite superheroes, and now suddenly Zap! Depowered.

How long do you think they'll keep him powerless? Do you think he's really started to lose his mind? Who do you think will take over as the Nova Prime? His brother? That Shi'ar? Can the Corp trust a Shi'ar with the War of Kings on the horizon? Or do you think that Worldmind will claim total control? What's the deal with Worldmind anyway? He, er, it's been acting awfully fishy lately.

At least we got to figure out that Ego wasn't actually made into a Centurion, but more so hijacked by Worldmind as the new home-planet for the Nova Corps. I liked that one panel which seemed like a shot at the Green Lantern's Mogo where someone said something to the effect of "I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to recruit a planet into the Corps" and looked right at the reader with a sly smile.

well we know he is the new Quasar....

i still say somethings wrong with worldmind

"well we know he is the new Quasar...."

I think I feel even more sick now. What's that from?

i think worldmind's going to go nuts and richard becomes quasar too fight him

"I think I feel even more sick now. What's that from?"

"Slinger said:

"I think I feel even more sick now. What's that from?"

upcoming cover

#22 I believe"

the title is Nova...

so unless they give the book to someone else or rename it Quasar he is getting the Nova costume back

what about Phyla?

Phyla-Vell is a different type of "Quasar"

This is Phya-Vell (aka "Quasar")

i know, but do the bands not entitle her to the name? will rider merge with wendell to become quasar? if so what will happen to phyla? will she need to change her name again?

worldmind is infected by ultron i bet!

"Quantum" and "Nega" bands

what are you talking about? phylla has the quantum bands not the nega bands! unless something hapened very recently that i am not aware of phylla is quasar with the quantum bands!

I don't know what's going to happen in Nova 23, but what I've read on Marvel's website about 22 is Worldmind is rebuilding the Corp on Earth and if you don't want to join.. well basically you don't have the option. I am guessing Wendell Quasar is going to assisst Rider in getting the Nova Force back. At least I hope, the Marvel U needs a Human Rocket and it just wouldn't be the same if he was suddenly Quasar. But boy I sure can't wait to find out :)

"I dont really like the idea of Richard becoming Quasar
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I think this is a really stupid idea.

"what are you talking about? phylla has the quantum bands not the nega bands! unless something hapened very recently that i am not aware of phylla is quasar with the quantum bands!"

I got the impression that Rich had control of the Starbrand. Wendel Vaughn did bring it to the regular Marvel Universe from the New Universe in the '90's

did the starbrand not run out of power after wendell brought it back? what ever happened to the nega bands? did the skrull cap marvel have them or was his power faked? if he did have them doesnt that mean that noh-var has them now? everything in marvel keeps changing and i am having trouble keeping track!

"did the starbrand not run out of power after wendell brought it back? what ever happened to the nega bands? did the skrull cap marvel have them or was his power faked? if he did have them doesnt that mean that noh-var has them now? everything in marvel keeps changing and i am having trouble keeping track!"

No, a spark of the power remained and was carried by Quasar's secretary back to the 'new universe' Earth that was being used as a experiment by The Stranger. The Living Tribunal put a barrier around this alternate earth to keep it quarantined.  Thus it would be possible for Wendel to retrieve it......

"I think this is a really stupid idea."

I just don't see how they could name the book Nova if Richard becomes "someone else" thou Quasar's powers would be the one which comes closest to Richard thou in a form of an upgrade.

I don't want Richard to be Quasar..didn't Wendell just come back? What about Phylla? What the hell is going on in space.All these new changes they are making are disappearing with quickness.They just made a new Guardians of the Galaxy and like 5 issues in..there is already a new team.WTF?

Well I wouldn't call the GotG a new line up I mean the only one who is new is Bug and he was already part of the initial line up. just prior to and during Annihilation Conquest.

Phylla is great but lets face it she isn't really notable as impressive as quasar whereas Richard since becoming Nova Prime has been really Kickin'-A**. Besides hasn't he been Nova for quiet sometime if he no longer holds the entire Nova Force wouldn't he then be down graded and lets face it with the War of Kings coming up he really needs to be up there in the power tier. So Quasar's power would be away to go for the character and I don't doubt Abnett and Lanning could really work this angle into something great.

Wendell came back as an energy-based lifeform. See when he died at the hands of Annihilus he was attempting a Quantum Jump at the exact same moment. For some reason this caused his soul to endure and transform into what I assume is energy from the Quantum Zone (which is where the Quantum Bands get their powers) and ended up inside a flask that was floating somewhere in The Negative Zone. So he's alive but he's more like The Uni-Power now in that both he and Richard could merge into a single being thus allowing Rich to become Quasar however Wendell will still be in his head probably ranting about how much cooler he was as Quasar than Richard ever was...

"Well I wouldn't call the GotG a new line up I mean the only one who is new is Bug and he was already part of the initial line up. just prior to and during Annihilation Conquest.

Phylla is great but lets face it she isn't really notable as impressive as quasar whereas Richard since becoming Nova Prime has been really Kickin'-A**. Besides hasn't he been Nova for quiet sometime if he no longer holds the entire Nova Force wouldn't he then be down graded and lets face it with the War of Kings coming up he really needs to be up there in the power tier. So Quasar's power would be away to go for the character and I don't doubt Abnett and Lanning could really work this angle into something great."

This is why I think it is much more plausible (I didn't really write that did I?) that Rich has the Star-brand.  It doesn't step on any other characters toes and it gives him the power level to take a major role in The War of Kings. So far, A & L have been doing a great job with Nova. I hope it continues....

Isn't Echo the new Panther? I haven't gotten my hands on the latest Black Panther as they haven't arrived her yet so I could be wrong.

I thought bringing Mar-vell back the way they did was neat. sure it sucked because he/she turned out to be a Skrull but the whole point of it was to explain why with some the graft worked and with others it worked too well.
 Yes Mar-vell was a Skrull but a Skrull who kicked major Skrull booty before dying even after realizing that she was a Skrull she chose to fight against her own kind. That was the point of the Skrull/Mar-vell story to me.

Phyla.... I get what you are saying and I agree they could expand more on her story but who is to say that she will be discarded? I mean she is a Titan is she not and did she have her own powers ( strenght, fly and energy blast if I am not mistaken) I am just saying that what could have happened that at the time she got the bands because it gelled better with the story giving it to Richards then would have been overkill.
So just because Richard has been Nova forever means he should remain Nova....????? wasn't it about time that he evolved. seriously I like Nova He was my favorite amongst superheroes due to his helmet. When other kids were Supes, Bat and Spidey I was Nova. but that was almost 30 years ago time for a change I would say. Besides how can Nova be Nova against Worldmind who granted him the power and thus can take it away as has already happened?

Wendell coming back was at the time a necessity because the base was being over run by Skrulls and it was only Darkhawk and Nova and it wasn't going well besides how else could they explain things should Rider in deed become the new Quasar? At least this way it becomes less of a 'jump-the-shark'.

As for the Star Brand I thought it was kept out of Marvel Universe because the threat it possessed and thus quarantined?

"Isn't Echo the new Panther? I haven't gotten my hands on the latest Black Panther as they haven't arrived her yet so I could be wrong.

I thought bringing Mar-vell back the way they did was neat. sure it sucked because he/she turned out to be a Skrull but the whole point of it was to explain why with some the graft worked and with others it worked too well.
 Yes Mar-vell was a Skrull but a Skrull who kicked major Skrull booty before dying even after realizing that she was a Skrull she chose to fight against her own kind. That was the point of the Skrull/Mar-vell story to me.

Phyla.... I get what you are saying and I agree they could expand more on her story but who is to say that she will be discarded? I mean she is a Titan is she not and did she have her own powers ( strenght, fly and energy blast if I am not mistaken) I am just saying that what could have happened that at the time she got the bands because it gelled better with the story giving it to Richards then would have been overkill.
So just because Richard has been Nova forever means he should remain Nova....????? wasn't it about time that he evolved. seriously I like Nova He was my favorite amongst superheroes due to his helmet. When other kids were Supes, Bat and Spidey I was Nova. but that was almost 30 years ago time for a change I would say. Besides how can Nova be Nova against Worldmind who granted him the power and thus can take it away as has already happened?

Wendell coming back was at the time a necessity because the base was being over run by Skrulls and it was only Darkhawk and Nova and it wasn't going well besides how else could they explain things should Rider in deed become the new Quasar? At least this way it becomes less of a 'jump-the-shark'.

As for the Star Brand I thought it was kept out of Marvel Universe because the threat it possessed and thus quarantined?
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"Calix said:

"Isn't Echo the new Panther? I haven't gotten my hands on the latest Black Panther as they haven't arrived her yet so I could be wrong.

I thought bringing Mar-vell back the way they did was neat. sure it sucked because he/she turned out to be a Skrull but the whole point of it was to explain why with some the graft worked and with others it worked too well.
 Yes Mar-vell was a Skrull but a Skrull who kicked major Skrull booty before dying even after realizing that she was a Skrull she chose to fight against her own kind. That was the point of the Skrull/Mar-vell story to me.

Phyla.... I get what you are saying and I agree they could expand more on her story but who is to say that she will be discarded? I mean she is a Titan is she not and did she have her own powers ( strenght, fly and energy blast if I am not mistaken) I am just saying that what could have happened that at the time she got the bands because it gelled better with the story giving it to Richards then would have been overkill.
So just because Richard has been Nova forever means he should remain Nova....????? wasn't it about time that he evolved. seriously I like Nova He was my favorite amongst superheroes due to his helmet. When other kids were Supes, Bat and Spidey I was Nova. but that was almost 30 years ago time for a change I would say. Besides how can Nova be Nova against Worldmind who granted him the power and thus can take it away as has already happened?

Wendell coming back was at the time a necessity because the base was being over run by Skrulls and it was only Darkhawk and Nova and it wasn't going well besides how else could they explain things should Rider in deed become the new Quasar? At least this way it becomes less of a 'jump-the-shark'.

As for the Star Brand I thought it was kept out of Marvel Universe because the threat it possessed and thus quarantined?
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No..Echo is not confirmed to be the new Black Panther.I doubt it is her anyway.There has been like 7 other character supposed for the job.The latest issue of Black Panther doesn't show you or tell you who the new Black Panther is.

My point about Mar-Vell is..the real one is already dead and he couldn't stay permanently because he was a skrull so ultimately they brought him back for nothing.The story behind them bringing him back and all that was actually written very well.

Who's to say Phyla will be discarded? Well I cannot say that for sure but I am aware that Marvel will not give you the whereabouts of certain characters until they look up one day and realize there is a character the could be using but they aren't..they forgot all about them.Marvel has yet to say what happened to the Heroes for Hire and what they are doing now that they are disbanded.They disbanded a whole Marvel event ago.

Richard being Nova forever...YES! means he should stay Nova.There is absolutely no justifiable reason for this.He was already an established hero..why take someone else's spot? He's not evolving by becoming Quasar..he already had the full power of the Nova Corpse..now they bring them back? Why? To continue to work on a stolen idea and keep stealing more stuff? Ego just became part of the Nova Corps right? Green Lantern Corps already did that with a Living Planet.

You mean to tell me...Marvel had to bring someone back from the dead to help Nova? There is nobody else you can think of..who is alive that could have helped Nova out of that situation? I'm not sure what the explanation is behind Nova becoming Quasar..I know alot of the explanations for things they have been doing as of late have been completely retarded and uncalled for.

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What are all those M's for?

Ego isn't part of Nova Corp.. Worldmind took over Ego to make it New Xandar.

I agree with Marvel's at times gross oversight but can't cry over spilled milk. .

I am not sure what happened to HoH I do remember that they spilt up because one of them made a compromise that pretty much put the core of the team on opposites I don't remember who did what exactly but the fall out was bad. and had Cap survived CW there was no way we could have actually expected Steve and Tony to do the team thing. other than a brief team up. I think the same goes for HoH. but I could be wrong.

The justifyable reason for the Nova thing is again how can Nova (whom by the way no longer has the Nova Force) fight against Worldmind (whom granted him the power and subsequently ripped ALL of it from him)?
and while at the time he of battling a full scale attack of Skrulls with only Darkhawk at his side Worldmind was down. so it stands to reason that he wasn't wielding the Full Nova Force as it was repeated ad naseum that without Worldmind the Nova Force would drive Richard insane.

So Marvel and DC have been copying each other stories.... how many songs, movies and the like are there out there that do the same material over and over. Some of the stuff however got no (too little) audience on their orginal run and a remake becomes wildly popular to the point that when someone points out it was a remake most wouldn't even know this .
As Morningstar pointed out Ego is not a centurion

Yep, Worldmind has pretty much murdered Ego and taken up residence inside his body (I don't care what Robbie Rider said, Ego would have NEVER willingly let Worldmind do what he did, I still think a little piece of Ultron is somewhere in Worldmind, I mean how long was Richard a Phalanx Select? Long enough for Ultron to put a back-up copy of himself inside Worldmind's storage archives that is for sure. Thus Worldmind is actually Ultron and therefore it is Ultron who has murdered Ego!)

"I agree with Marvel's at times gross oversight but can't cry over spilled milk. .

I am not sure what happened to HoH I do remember that they spilt up because one of them made a compromise that pretty much put the core of the team on opposites I don't remember who did what exactly but the fall out was bad. and had Cap survived CW there was no way we could have actually expected Steve and Tony to do the team thing. other than a brief team up. I think the same goes for HoH. but I could be wrong.

The justifyable reason for the Nova thing is again how can Nova (whom by the way no longer has the Nova Force) fight against Worldmind (whom granted him the power and subsequently ripped ALL of it from him)?
and while at the time he of battling a full scale attack of Skrulls with only Darkhawk at his side Worldmind was down. so it stands to reason that he wasn't wielding the Full Nova Force as it was repeated ad naseum that without Worldmind the Nova Force would drive Richard insane.

So Marvel and DC have been copying each other stories.... how many songs, movies and the like are there out there that do the same material over and over. Some of the stuff however got no (too little) audience on their orginal run and a remake becomes wildly popular to the point that when someone points out it was a remake most wouldn't even know this .
As Morningstar pointed out Ego is not a centurion
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"Calix said:

"I agree with Marvel's at times gross oversight but can't cry over spilled milk. .

I am not sure what happened to HoH I do remember that they spilt up because one of them made a compromise that pretty much put the core of the team on opposites I don't remember who did what exactly but the fall out was bad. and had Cap survived CW there was no way we could have actually expected Steve and Tony to do the team thing. other than a brief team up. I think the same goes for HoH. but I could be wrong.

The justifyable reason for the Nova thing is again how can Nova (whom by the way no longer has the Nova Force) fight against Worldmind (whom granted him the power and subsequently ripped ALL of it from him)?
and while at the time he of battling a full scale attack of Skrulls with only Darkhawk at his side Worldmind was down. so it stands to reason that he wasn't wielding the Full Nova Force as it was repeated ad naseum that without Worldmind the Nova Force would drive Richard insane.

So Marvel and DC have been copying each other stories.... how many songs, movies and the like are there out there that do the same material over and over. Some of the stuff however got no (too little) audience on their orginal run and a remake becomes wildly popular to the point that when someone points out it was a remake most wouldn't even know this .
As Morningstar pointed out Ego is not a centurion
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That isn't a justifiable reason.They didn't have to take the Nova Force from him in the first place.That whole thing is just leading up to Marvel making a stupid move.

Calix...it doesn't matter who steals from who..it's not ok on any level.I would have been fine with this had they not killed the whole Corps off..but if you are going to do that..then leave them dead and make room for new storyline.Why bring back a copied idea to expand on it by adding more copied stuff? For the record..remakes are usually popular for nostalgia reasons..not because they are executed well.Marvel is giving into to many cop outs..they just keep recycling ideas..they are even copying themselves.So all I am saying with this is...none of that stuff leading up to Nova not being Nova anymore had to happen.Marvel could have expanded on Nova instead of throwing his character in the garbage.Same with Phyla.

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"What are all those M's for?"

"Vance Astro said:

"What are all those M's for?"

Its out of disgusts and ignorance"

I don't know, Quasar's powers are quiet what is needed in the upcoming WoK specially against Vulcan or Gladiatior but you have all these factions that are all in these battle, Blastaar with his Negative Zone clan, the Shi'ar quiet possibly with Darkhawk, the Inhumans with their Kree troops/allies, Nova Corps and who knows who else. This clash demands high tier powers especially if they are going to be individuals like Richard.
Richard as Nova was quiet powerful when he had the full force behind him but that is no longer the case. In a way I am looking forward to the Richard vs. Worldmind if only for the mentor vs apprentice angle.
Again nothing against Phyla but she currently doesnt' seem up to (nor emotionally ready - what with Heather being first and foremost onher mind - for) wielding such a force whereas Rider is.

"I don't know, Quasar's powers are quiet what is needed in the upcoming WoK specially against Vulcan or Gladiatior but you have all these factions that are all in these battle, Blastaar with his Negative Zone clan, the Shi'ar quiet possibly with Darkhawk, the Inhumans with their Kree troops/allies, Nova Corps and who knows who else. This clash demands high tier powers especially if they are going to be individuals like Richard.
Richard as Nova was quiet powerful when he had the full force behind him but that is no longer the case. In a way I am looking forward to the Richard vs. Worldmind if only for the mentor vs apprentice angle.
Again nothing against Phyla but she currently doesnt' seem up to (nor emotionally ready - what with Heather being first and foremost onher mind - for) wielding such a force whereas Rider is."

This may explain a few things.....

What the hell.....? Is Mentor up to his tricks again?

So its true "Worldmind" has been going nuts or subverted by someone else.

and what is happening with Richard is quiet disconcerting but it does have a solution.

In most recent Guardians of the Galaxy Phyla lost her quasar bands, so obviously they'll go to Richard and based on Marvel Previews - he gets involved in War of Kings when corrupted Worldmind leads Nova force to battle against either or both sides and to decimation, again. So its going to be Richard vs Worldmind for the control of Nova Force.

I don't think Nova will stay as Quasar for long. I trust DnA they're good writers, and they've been working in comics for a long, long time. It's a temporary thing, and then they'll do something else it all. War of the Kings, and it's cross-overs into Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy are going to be brilliant.

I think world mind will lead the nova corps into the WoK the majority of the nova corps will get obliterated (again) which will include the death of richs  brother he will then go and wrestle control of the nova force and the corps away from the world mind and rich will then lead the remaining novas into the big final battle of WoK just in time to tip the battle for whatever is the preferable outcome rich will then officially return as nova-prime and he will then begin to rebuild the nova corps himself in a manner that hes happy with.
-how rich got his nova force back