Problem with Nightcrawler's powers

#1 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

It's been stated in the comics a billion times that if Nightcrawler teleports inside an object, he'll die instantly. So why doesn't he die when he appears in the middle of air molecules?

#2 Posted by Risky (12629 posts) - - Show Bio
@Meteorite: It's about solid objects that he drive away. Teleporting into  water or snow would not be a problem either because he  has the greater mass and can drive it away while lets say a concrete wall has the greater mass (not to forget the higher density) and therefore he would get driven away himself. Since that is not possible IN a wall he would get squished like an insect. At least that is how I understood it.
#3 Posted by War Killer (19944 posts) - - Show Bio

Ha Ha! Science!

#4 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio
@Risky said:
" @Meteorite: It's about solid objects that he drive away. Teleporting into  water or snow would not be a problem either because he  has the greater mass and can drive it away while lets say a concrete wall has the greater mass (not to forget the higher density) and therefore he would get driven away himself. Since that is not possible IN a wall he would get squished like an insect. At least that is how I understood it. "
That is the going theory but I would love to see an alternate universe were he can displace rock and other substances.
#5 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

I like when he gets to be badass and teleport limbs and such off of people. Like in AoA when he teleported Dead Man Wade's head off or in Wolverine and the X-Men where he teleported Spiral's bionic arms off. And he needs to get one of Black Knight's photonic swords.

#6 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio
@PrinceIMC said:
" I like when he gets to be badass and teleport limbs and such off of people. Like in AoA when he teleported Dead Man Wade's head off or in Wolverine and the X-Men where he teleported Spiral's bionic arms off. And he needs to get one of Black Knight's photonic swords. "
Hell ya he should do that more often in the comics but I think he should have Kylun's swords there magic they will not harm a good person and besides time travels much faster in the universe he calls home so he's probably dead by now so he no longer  needs them.
#7 Posted by Nahero (9915 posts) - - Show Bio
@Risky said:
" @Meteorite: It's about solid objects that he drive away. Teleporting into  water or snow would not be a problem either because he  has the greater mass and can drive it away while lets say a concrete wall has the greater mass (not to forget the higher density) and therefore he would get driven away himself. Since that is not possible IN a wall he would get squished like an insect. At least that is how I understood it. "
yeah that would suck
#8 Posted by Catracio (11 posts) - - Show Bio

It has nothing to do with his density. He doesn't actually dematerialize and re materialize but rather he opens a portal to another dimension and travel's through it at hypersonic speeds. The smoke is from that alternate dimension. Thus if he were to accidentally open that portal into a wall he would have to instantly portal away as well. This solid object flaw was part of his fascination with Kitty Pryde. With Kitty's help Kurt is a master teleporter. Limited only by the range of his abilities instead of the need to see where he is going. Since he travel's through another dimension it is believed his powers may operater on an even grander scale then Lock Jaw and Death Urges.

#9 Posted by Blue Nighty (374 posts) - - Show Bio
@Catracio said:
" It has nothing to do with his density. He doesn't actually dematerialize and re materialize but rather he opens a portal to another dimension and travel's through it at hypersonic speeds. The smoke is from that alternate dimension. Thus if he were to accidentally open that portal into a wall he would have to instantly portal away as well. This solid object flaw was part of his fascination with Kitty Pryde. With Kitty's help Kurt is a master teleporter. Limited only by the range of his abilities instead of the need to see where he is going. Since he travel's through another dimension it is believed his powers may operater on an even grander scale then Lock Jaw and Death Urges. "
 
YEAHH!!!
#10 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio
@Catracio said:
"  Thus if he were to accidentally open that portal into a wall he would have to instantly portal away as well."
That's not true it has all ways been said that if he teleported into a solid object he would die or lose the limb I have never herd this automatic teleaport rebound you speak of so cite your source or don't bring it up
#11 Posted by knightinbatmanarmor (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Risky had it closest. When nightcrawler bamfs away, the bamf sound comes from the sound of air rushing in to fill the spot he had previously taken. so, when he reappears, he displaces air, which is fast moving molecules, and like risky said, less dense. but, solid matter molecules are totally different and don't move in the same way. so when Kurt rematerializes, his body's molecules would take up the same space as that of the solid material. the process of having his cells mixing with those of another object would be exceptionally painful, and depending on the part, could kill him.

#12 Edited by Catracio (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@Watch Dog:  I know it's been a year since the post were made but i feel the need to point out that if read thoroughly i did not say he could do any sort of rebound teleporting. I simply stated that if he were to open his portal into say a wall he would have to instantly open another away from it to survive. He can't do this and that's why he needs to see his destination. As far as the entire displacing matter theory technically yes it is correct but that's just real world physics. And through these physics it can be determined that when he opens his portals the smoke appears as it is displaced from the brimstone dimension. to compensate for his mass as matter cannot be created or destroyed.  Also if you need cites on the brimstone deminsion existing or that Kurt teleports by opening a portal and traveling through the brimstone dimension and near instantly traveling through it i can provide them.
 
In short please read people's entire post and make sure you understand them before trying to say someone is completely wrong.
I appreciate it.

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