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#1 Edited By mrrpm01

Before reading second coming I thought that the death scene in "Blackest Night" where Hawkman and Hawkgirl died was the most emotional panel that I could ever see but I was wrong. To really feel this panel you have to realize that Kurts' life has been nothing but service and sacrafice for the greater good and the higher purpose both of which Hope is supposed to represent in the second coming. The only man who Logan can truely bare his soul gone, the only one who was the moral compass to the team gone the only one who we all trule could identify with gone. Who among us has not been the outsider at one time or another because of color, financial status or just becuase we weren't cool enough or looked different. He died in a way that was truly fitting for him and in a style that was truly nightcrawler. Second Coming is a great ride but I have to stop and take a look at the sun as it goes down on Nightcrawler one hero who was truly super

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#2 Edited By sora_thekey

Dude! Spoiler alert!
Some people might have not read this already (but you're right this was done horribly well and emotional! *sniff*)

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#3 Edited By Caligula

@sora_thekey said:

" Dude! Spoiler alert! Some people might have not read this already (but you're right this was done horribly well and emotional! *sniff*) "

if people don't know kurt is dead by now, they need to crawl out from under that rock.

cause any true comic fan already know regardless of whether they have read it or not.

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#5 Edited By Son_of_Magnus

@Caligula: I did not know but I dropped X-Titles and most of Marvel over a year ago. The writing was to blaugh

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#6 Edited By Caligula

@Son_of_Magnus: well i didn't read the issue, either cause like you said marvel, has become really lame. last thing worth a damn they did was Old Man Logan, and after the garbage that was invasion i haven't picked up another marvel title since, but I still know whats going on, mainly cause i just look up summaries, and reviews of the books. I have always been a DC/Vertigo fan but it's still a shame marvel has become such garbage, even this death was poorly executed.

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#7 Edited By Caligula

@Edamame said:

" I crawled out... "

lol. you always kill me man hahaha

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#9 Edited By Caligula

@Edamame: the King Dedede avatar rocks too.

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#11 Edited By Caligula

@Edamame: hahaha

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#13 Edited By Caligula

@Edamame: yeah i know him. he is in the Battle Forums a lot, a place i try to stay away from most of the time, because they get real serious over there. MK is a good guy though.

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#15 Edited By The Sadhu

The last death in Marvel that truely tugged at the heart strings (other than Steve Rogers) was when Colossus sacrificed himself for the greater good of the mutant race.

Nightcrawler's death now ranks up there!

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#16 Edited By G Bird

What issue is this from?

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#17 Edited By JediXMan Moderator

@G Bird:

X-Force #25.

Sad. I wasn't completely surprised. To be honest, I thought they'd twist it a little and kill Rogue.

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#18 Edited By Andferne

You should still attach a spoiler warning to it.

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#19 Edited By pixelized

It's been a week, The next chapter that hit stands today has him dead on the first page, it's no longer a spoiler at this point.

On topic though, With Kurt dead, I sense that Indra could fill that "moral compass" void. I liked Kurt as much as the next person, but now that some time has passed I can't help but feel his death was a little cheap. Hope, who is supposed to be this trained soldier was Immobilized by fear, so Kurt had to port over to save her? Maybe I'm recalling the scene incorrectly or I'm oversimplifying, but come on noooow. These are the moments she's been training for everyday of her existence, so time comes to implement them and she doesn't know what to do? Grrr. And then for it to be a hand phased through his heart bothers me relentlessly. Had he ported in so he was facing Bastion, He would just have an arm through his chest, surely Elixir/Cecilia Reyes/X-Club could cure that.

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#20 Edited By danhimself

@pixelized: she may be a trained soldier but she's also just a 16 year old girl and was probably and reasonably overwhelmed by the situation...despite what she's been through she hasn't witnessed battles anything like the ones she's been in since her return to the present

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#21 Edited By pixelized

@danhimself said:

" @pixelized: she may be a trained soldier but she's also just a 16 year old girl and was probably and reasonably overwhelmed by the situation...despite what she's been through she hasn't witnessed battles anything like the ones she's been in since her return to the present "

Rogue got knocked to the side, Nightcrawler was already weak from teleporting, what major tragic thing happened to shake her up? A few chapters earlier she was being shot at by an army of robots with smiley faces, but now was her moment to freeze? That's a hard one to swallow. Regardless as to where she's fighting (past, present, future) as well as age, she's been more than trained/prepared for these situations, so for her to choke the way she did is a stretch.

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#22 Edited By Figaro

WTF

Kurts Dead? dammit now when Second Coming is done ill have to get all the books

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#23 Edited By danhimself

@pixelized:

just reread the issue...she was attacking Bastion but he says something like "I've seen you. I've seen what you become." and she doesn't really freeze...that's when Nightcrawler ports and Bastion sees it and thrusts his hand out into the space that Nightcrawler was going to occupy....I think Nightcrawler's plan was just to grab her and port away to get her away from Bastion...who knows her powers could have kicked in and she would have been perfectly able to take down Bastion but Nightcrawler couldn't take the risk

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#24 Edited By sora_thekey

@Caligula said:

" @sora_thekey said:
" Dude! Spoiler alert! Some people might have not read this already (but you're right this was done horribly well and emotional! *sniff*) "
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if people don't know kurt is dead by now, they need to crawl out from under that rock. cause any true comic fan already know regardless of whether they have read it or not.
"

Hey some people wait for the trades!

@danhimself said:

" @pixelized: she may be a trained soldier but she's also just a 16 year old girl and was probably and reasonably overwhelmed by the situation...despite what she's been through she hasn't witnessed battles anything like the ones she's been in since her return to the present "

I think it's unreasonable to think she's invincible just because she was trained by Cable... soldiers at war loose it because of deaths!
I think the stress of all this... is going to break Hope <<COphoenixUGH>>

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#25 Edited By timrothsays

@G Bird said:

" What issue is this from? "

@JediXMan said:

" @G Bird: X-Force #25. "

Dude, #26 -_-

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#26 Edited By spiderguylll

SEE!!! I told EVERYONE Kurt was gonna died now Magneto will make those @#$%ing guys pay! DAMMIT HOPE its all your fault

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#27 Edited By Donovan Montgomery

@sora_thekey:
Guess this is the price you pay for waiting :(

I heard someone was going to die and I think Nightcrawller was on of the only ones never to do so, but I still did not know it happend already :(
Unfortunatly, it will probably be a while before I even see the issue.
Avedashen(SP?) Nightcrawller D,:

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#28 Edited By karrob

Its sad! :-(

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#29 Edited By danhimself

@sora_thekey: plus everyone is running around calling her a messiah to...all of that stuff could be to much for anyone to take in

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#30 Edited By pixelized

@sora_thekey said:

" @Caligula said:
" @sora_thekey said:
" Dude! Spoiler alert! Some people might have not read this already (but you're right this was done horribly well and emotional! *sniff*) "
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if people don't know kurt is dead by now, they need to crawl out from under that rock. cause any true comic fan already know regardless of whether they have read it or not.
"
Hey some people wait for the trades!

@danhimself said:
" @pixelized: she may be a trained soldier but she's also just a 16 year old girl and was probably and reasonably overwhelmed by the situation...despite what she's been through she hasn't witnessed battles anything like the ones she's been in since her return to the present "
I think it's unreasonable to think she's invincible just because she was trained by Cable... soldiers at war loose it because of deaths! I think the stress of all this... is going to break Hope <<COphoenixUGH>> "

She's been doing it daily for as long as she's been alive. She's Hailed as the saviour of the mutant race, no time for F#*^ ups.

@danhimself said:

" @pixelized:

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just reread the issue...she was attacking Bastion but he says something like "I've seen you. I've seen what you become." and she doesn't really freeze...that's when Nightcrawler ports and Bastion sees it and thrusts his hand out into the space that Nightcrawler was going to occupy....I think Nightcrawler's plan was just to grab her and port away to get her away from Bastion...who knows her powers could have kicked in and she would have been perfectly able to take down Bastion but Nightcrawler couldn't take the risk
"

I guess what I was trying to stress was, Hope is someone who should have Plans A-R lined up at any given time. While she may not have "frozen" she certainly didn't spring to action. It's whatever though

And why the Spoiler warning??? It's been a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek. A WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK.

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#31 Edited By danhimself

@pixelized said:

" @sora_thekey said:
" @Caligula said:
" @sora_thekey said:
" Dude! Spoiler alert! Some people might have not read this already (but you're right this was done horribly well and emotional! *sniff*) "
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if people don't know kurt is dead by now, they need to crawl out from under that rock. cause any true comic fan already know regardless of whether they have read it or not.
"
Hey some people wait for the trades!

@danhimself said:
" @pixelized: she may be a trained soldier but she's also just a 16 year old girl and was probably and reasonably overwhelmed by the situation...despite what she's been through she hasn't witnessed battles anything like the ones she's been in since her return to the present "
I think it's unreasonable to think she's invincible just because she was trained by Cable... soldiers at war loose it because of deaths! I think the stress of all this... is going to break Hope <<COphoenixUGH>> "
She's been doing it daily for as long as she's been alive. She's Hailed as the saviour of the mutant race, no time for F#*^ ups.

@danhimself said:
" @pixelized:

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just reread the issue...she was attacking Bastion but he says something like "I've seen you. I've seen what you become." and she doesn't really freeze...that's when Nightcrawler ports and Bastion sees it and thrusts his hand out into the space that Nightcrawler was going to occupy....I think Nightcrawler's plan was just to grab her and port away to get her away from Bastion...who knows her powers could have kicked in and she would have been perfectly able to take down Bastion but Nightcrawler couldn't take the risk
"
I guess what I was trying to stress was, Hope is someone who should have Plans A-R lined up at any given time. While she may not have "frozen" she certainly didn't spring to action. It's whatever though And why the Spoiler warning??? It's been a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek. A WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK. "

well what if plans A-R failed and she hadn't thought up S-Z?? :)

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#32 Edited By pixelized

@danhimself: If there's even a possiblity that she needs "S-Z" then Cable failed her as a Mentor/Parent

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#33 Edited By MrMiracle77

Makes me wonder if Kurt can't just bamf his way out of heaven.

He's bamfed out of stranger places than that.

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#34 Edited By danhimself

I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months

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#35 Edited By RavenDark

Good by Old Friend.*Shakes his fist to the skies.* Darn you Marvel writers!!!

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#36 Edited By pixelized

@danhimself said:

" I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months "

Wouldn't this just be a normal thing to Wolverine? Since his inception he's always lost anyone he's ever cared about.

Do healing factors work on broken hearts? The emotional variety of course.

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#37 Edited By danhimself

@pixelized said:

" @danhimself said:
" I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months "
Wouldn't this just be a normal thing to Wolverine? Since his inception he's always lost anyone he's ever cared about. Do healing factors work on broken hearts? The emotional variety of course. "

well so far I'd say that it's affected Wolverine more than anyone else and he's been really good lately with controlling his berserker rages and even when he does flip out he can usually get himself under control pretty quickly

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#38 Edited By Benzo

I'm gonna miss that blue elf!!!! :'(

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#39 Edited By Theodore

Isn't it sad!

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#40 Edited By InnerVenom123

He has a hand through his chest? Um.... how did that happen? I don't read X-men, so please explain this to me. Thanks. =)

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#42 Edited By pixelized

@danhimself said:

" @pixelized said:
" @danhimself said:
" I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months "
Wouldn't this just be a normal thing to Wolverine? Since his inception he's always lost anyone he's ever cared about. Do healing factors work on broken hearts? The emotional variety of course. "
well so far I'd say that it's affected Wolverine more than anyone else and he's been really good lately with controlling his berserker rages and even when he does flip out he can usually get himself under control pretty quickly "

What is this in response to?

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#43 Edited By danhimself

@pixelized said:

" @danhimself said:
" @pixelized said:
" @danhimself said:
" I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months "
Wouldn't this just be a normal thing to Wolverine? Since his inception he's always lost anyone he's ever cared about. Do healing factors work on broken hearts? The emotional variety of course. "
well so far I'd say that it's affected Wolverine more than anyone else and he's been really good lately with controlling his berserker rages and even when he does flip out he can usually get himself under control pretty quickly "
What is this in response to? "

your post before it...duh

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#44 Edited By xerox_kitty

Did anyone else think think of X-Men Origins: Wolverine when they read it...? It's just like what happened to Wraith ;)

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#45 Edited By pixelized

@danhimself said:

" @pixelized said:
" @danhimself said:
" @pixelized said:
" @danhimself said:
" I'm hoping that this has lasting repercussions on Wolverine the most....like I want him to start losing it ever so slightly over the next couple months "
Wouldn't this just be a normal thing to Wolverine? Since his inception he's always lost anyone he's ever cared about. Do healing factors work on broken hearts? The emotional variety of course. "
well so far I'd say that it's affected Wolverine more than anyone else and he's been really good lately with controlling his berserker rages and even when he does flip out he can usually get himself under control pretty quickly "
What is this in response to? "
your post before it...duh "

It answered which question?

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#47 Edited By xerox_kitty

@Edamame said:

" @xerox-kitty said:
" Did anyone else think think of X-Men Origins: Wolverine when they read it...? It's just like what happened to Wraith ;) "
The difference is, Sabretooth enjoyed doing that. Bastion didn't. "

I'd say the difference was that Sabretooth didn't lose an arm. But it was a very similar way to kill a teleporter...

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#48 Edited By goldenkey

Nightcrawler was like a monkey. Who doesn't like a monkey?

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