Painting themselves into a corner with this story?  Adding more layers to these characters might not always be a good idea unless you want to show an evil side to Nick Fury only to have it exposed and used in the present time.  

" Painting themselves into a corner with this story?  Adding more layers to these characters might not always be a good idea unless you want to show an evil side to Nick Fury only to have it exposed and used in the present time.   "

" I'm thinking Nick Fury made sure that Rick Jones' radio message made it to Iron Man, Ant-Man and Wasp and made sure it didn't reach other heroes. So basically he picked the Avengers first roster. He might have helped them get their special status behind the scenes or something.  If it turns out that he was there with them fighting the Hulk and he suggested they get together but wiped their mind with a Men in Black type device I'll be mad. "

Nick Fury is Steve Rogers father.  
 
Search your feelings you know it to be true.

"I'm thinking Nick Fury made sure that Rick Jones' radio message made it to Iron Man, Ant-Man and Wasp and made sure it didn't reach other heroes. So basically he picked the Avengers first roster. He might have helped them get their special status behind the scenes or something.  If it turns out that he was there with them fighting the Hulk and he suggested they get together but wiped their mind with a Men in Black type device I'll be mad. "

" Nick Fury is Steve Rogers father.   Search your feelings you know it to be true. "

" I'm thinking Nick Fury made sure that Rick Jones' radio message made it to Iron Man, Ant-Man and Wasp and made sure it didn't reach other heroes. So basically he picked the Avengers first roster. He might have helped them get their special status behind the scenes or something.  If it turns out that he was there with them fighting the Hulk and he suggested they get together but wiped their mind with a Men in Black type device I'll be mad. "

To me, it all just sounds like more pointless retcon.

"To me, it all just sounds like more pointless retcon. "

Think you hit the nail on the head there G-Man

Don't know what to think at this point. It would be interesting if both secrets were connected

" Painting themselves into a corner with this story?  Adding more layers to these characters might not always be a good idea unless you want to show an evil side to Nick Fury only to have it exposed and used in the present time.   "

maybe there pulling an Ultimate and making Red Skull Captain Americas son an Nick Fury had to cover it up

"Yay marvel! More needless retcons to perfectly established histories...yet another reason I find myself buying more and more DC books. "

               "I'm thinking Nick Fury made sure that Rick Jones' radio message made it to Iron Man, Ant-Man and Wasp and made sure it didn't reach other heroes. So basically he picked the Avengers first roster. He might have helped them get their special status behind the scenes or something."  
 
 

I can see this happening. I can see Fury involved with things from the very beginning. But not only with The Avengers, but with the X-Men and with the Fantastic Four as well. And with Nick Fury's creation a few months prior to the first issue of the Avengers, why not.

 

But to be honest I also see the movies as the blame for this, they should have brought in the original 616 Nick Fury, it is what people are comfortable with. They should have had an alternate chase seen in the movie that had Fury behind the wheel of his flying car Chasing after Iron Man.

" Nick Fury is Steve Rogers father.   Search your feelings you know it to be true. "

"@JonesDeini said:

"Yay marvel! More needless retcons to perfectly established histories...yet another reason I find myself buying more and more DC books. "

DC retconned their multiverse. Adding a few more layers to Marvel's history or a retcon or two isn't going to trump that. "

Bendis likes conspiracies...he has them in every book he writes...he's done well so so far..I have faith....I think we should be more worried about what Morrison is doing to Batman...yuck...

What's next, it's gonna be revealed that the Nick Fury we know is actually an LMD and the real Nick Fury looks a lot more like Samuel L Jackson? 
 
Cause that's what's coming next. Mark my words. 

I have to say for the most part I hate history changes, it destroys comics books and makes people drop there favourite title for awhile, which in turns hurts the sales. However there is always an expection to the rule, but in my opinion a spin is better that this. Spider-Man: Reign is a prime example, not the greatest comic in the world but the spin on Spidy's radioactive bodily fluids killed MJ. This is what we need, twists on the classic backstory not breaking it down and remodeling in to fit a more modern style.

"What's next, it's gonna be revealed that the Nick Fury we know is actually an LMD and the real Nick Fury looks a lot more like Samuel L Jackson?  Cause that's what's coming next. Mark my words.  "

" @JonesDeini said:

"Yay marvel! More needless retcons to perfectly established histories...yet another reason I find myself buying more and more DC books. "

DC retconned their multiverse. Adding a few more layers to Marvel's history or a retcon or two isn't going to trump that. "

Great read :D

I always giggle whenever the "Rainbow" Bridge is mentioned, it's hard to imagine Fury and the Skull working together even if the discovery of Asgard was on the line, they were still at war at the time but hey it's comics so who knows

"True, but in a lot of ways that was necessary and though it didn't completely work it accomplished it's goal. Marvel's just doing it for the sake of their films.  "

Is this going to drift towards the whole watchmen thing of having a 'common enemy' only just not as dramatically?

i like the rick jones connection, anything else will annoy me.

Dunno, I really don't like the idea of changing things THAT much from what previously thought. I mean: Nick Fury just got his place in the main Marvel universe when the fans were enjoying the Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos and asked for more. By then, the whole Avengers idea was already in motion in Stan's mind, and I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with Fury.
It's one thing to develop a character and from times to times to add something to his history, but to mess with the Avengers origin decades later?? Man, that just doesn't feel right... You read your comics for decades, and then they just decide to change the very origin at will, coming up with some 'clever idea'. We never, all these years,  had a chance to figure that Fury's possibility, simply because it wasn't meant to be like that.