Lame

@HolySerpent said:

Lame

Don't act all surprised, we all saw this coming. I wouldn't be shocked if Marvel has some big event in the near future that will merge Sociopath...I mean Ultimate Marvel with the 616. Kill 2 birds with one stone it'll make it more Movie version friendly and keep up the Marvel/DC thing about copying each other

@War Killer said:

Why does he keep calling Coulson "cheese" for? O_o Still don't understand why he's wearing Cap's Super-Soldier uniform either, it would have made more sense to give it to Bucky to be honest.

No. Don't give it to Bucky, that would be counter-productive. Bucky's the Winter Soldier, I wouldn't like that at all to be honest. Not to mention that would be somewhat predictable.

On to the character, I like everything about him except that he looks like Ult Fury and that he's called Fury. So that sucks. And I also like Coulson, to be honest.

Nick Fury is Nick Fury. If they feel the need to do Universal gymnastics to bring black Fury into the main timeline, it doesn't bother me. If they feel that his appearance somehow makes him a diferent character, it doesn't matter to me. Fury is Fury.

No. Don't give it to Bucky, that would be counter-productive. Bucky's the Winter Soldier, I wouldn't like that at all to be honest. Not to mention that would be somewhat predictable.

On to the character, I like everything about him except that he looks like Ult Fury and that he's called Fury. So that sucks. And I also like Coulson, to be honest.

@Dernman said:

I thought you were indifferent to Marcus and Battle Scars. *shrugs*

I wasn't completely caught up, I had read issue #2. Recently I read through more of the mini-series nad I like the character, specially as what he can bring to the table as a Nick Fury that isn't Nick Fury. (Metaphorically speaking, not literally, because as I've stated I hate the name.)

I agree I actually did like Marcus but I'm really not liking them doing the Ult Fury thing.

Nobody in their right mind does.

As for Coulson I don't know.His whole introduction kinda felt like that guy who use to help Magog in his series. *shrugs* I'll wait and see before making a judgment.

I don't recall his introduction, must have skipped it, but he felt really solid in the last issue. Sure, he may be forcing his way into the universe, but I think that as of right now I'm OK with him, he brings some humor to the table.

also this is grade a crap

I like the change, i consider Ult Nick Fury the definitive version anyway. The 616 Nick fury looks too much like reed richards with an eye patch.

I would have preferred if he had kept his hair and looked more like the Avengers EMH, Fury.

@War Killer said:

I don't see how it would be counter-productive, just because he's Winter Soldier doesn't mean he couldn't wear that uniform. It would work well with his WS identity while also giving nods to his previous run as Captain America.

Well the thing is that the costume that was used by Rogers has a huge Star on the chest, which is undeniably the same star that is on the shield which is on his Shield, so even though the costume has no direct ties with the whole "America" thing that comes with Captain America -- it definitely points to it. The whole point of him faking his death and becoming the Winter Soldier was that in this manner he would be untraceable and it would allow him to do things that he otherwise wouldn't be able to. I don't think that using this thought process it makes sense for him to use the same costume that Steve was wearing when protecting the country as the leader of Homeland security. So sure, he could definitely use it, but I think it would feel somewhat forced and even if it didn't because we all know Bru is fcking amazing, I still don't think I'd like it.

Furthermore there's also the point that Rogers giving that to Bucky would possibly give the feeling that Rogers still has too much of an influence much like the one he had when the former was his sidekick. I'm sure that's just me personally, but him taking on the costume doesn't seem like the correct evolution for the character's independence.

I just find it random that Cap would give it to Fury's son, it's no big deal, just feels random is all.

I guess the reason I liked it is because I like Bucky taking the costume and thus I thought that the costume was somewhat dead, so it was a nice suprise to see it make a comeback since its quite a nicely designed costume. Not to mention the fact that the costume reeks of SHIELD and Spy Shenenagans, mostly because that was the direction that Marvel seemed to be taking Steve, but as such I think it'll definitely have a good use on Fake Fury over there.

On a sidenote, I'd love to see a series with Kid Fury and Agent Coulson and maybe even Quake. The former needs to get trained for real though.

And since I'm going hammer with random thoughts, let me just tell Marvel "Don't kill Fury you f@#&$. The Real one that is".

@War Killer said:

@ReVamp: You're probably right and I can see why you would disagree, I just like the costume and thought it personally would suit Bucky's character better instead of the new Fury. But then again, people normally disagree with my opinions anyways. :P

Oh no, I agree with your idea generically. The costume is definitely better than Bucky's one and therefore Bucky could definitely use it, its just that in this case the ideology behind the costume doesn't seem to fit with me. Now, if at the start (or presently), Bucky were to go to Fury and they'd have some talk about what he needed to do and whatever and at the conclusion they ended up modifying those threads so that the Star and some similiarities were removed, then I think I'd agree, just because that costume is so slick. On the otherhand, Bucky's current costume isn't that bad, its raw and has a statement behind it so I see positives to both. Overall, I wouldn't really touch it, just because Bru is gold as it is.

@Dernman said:

@ReVamp: Fury is out of infinity formula and he gave his last one to Mockingbird. For many reasons I can't help but feel they have been planing for a long time to phase him out. Before they do they will throw us a bone and put him in the Defenders for an arc and give us that Fury MAX mini.

Actually, the very last went to Bucky, Mockingbird was before him. But yes, that's what I was referring to and that's exactly what pissing me off.

And his name is Nick.

You have got to be f**king kidding.

xDDDD

I like the idea of making Coulson an actual character... but this is just too forced.

It could be cool, but just... ugh.

@cattlebattle said:

You don't see DC changing around Batmans comic to better fit with the movie franchise...

@spiderbat87: Joker not having a scarred smile and then having one (pre-reboot) after The Dark Knight comes out isn't at least similar?

@spiderbat87: Joker not having a scarred smile and then having one (pre-reboot) after The Dark Knight comes out isn't at least similar?

@joshmightbe said:

Don't act all surprised, we all saw this coming. I wouldn't be shocked if Marvel has some big event in the near future that will merge Sociopath...I mean Ultimate Marvel with the 616. Kill 2 birds with one stone it'll make it more Movie version friendly and keep up the Marvel/DC thing about copying each other

They've genuinely got that event coming up... Spider-Men.

Predicting Miles gets trapped in 616, and then Marvel abandons the Ultimate Universe.

@Primmaster64 said:

@X35: its already been stated that Pete is the one that's going to the Ultimate Universe.

Doesn't necessarily mean the end can't have Miles getting sucked into the 616 with Peter ;)

@cattlebattle: I'm not denying that at all. I was trying to provide an example of DC changing Batman comics around to be like the movies. But apparently I was mistaken. Oh well.

So next year look forward to Marvel New 54 (See how it's completely different from DC New 52) but when the Ultimate and 616 merge can we please get those heroes on some anti-psychotics