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Added by G-Man on Aug. 3, 2009
Have you read this yet? What did you think? Did the final issue pay off for you? Are you happy with the end? What do you think will happen to the Ultimate Universe after this?
Is there any hope for the dead characters? Is this 'housecleaning' a good idea to get rid of so many characters? What about the "big" characters that were killed off? Do you think Marvel will let them stay dead and for how long?
Is there any hope for the dead characters? Is this 'housecleaning' a good idea to get rid of so many characters? What about the "big" characters that were killed off? Do you think Marvel will let them stay dead and for how long?
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Ultimate Universe,
Cyclops,
Nick Fury,
Wolverine,
Magneto,
David Finch,
Jeph Loeb,
Ultimatum
59 Comments
your quote of Cyclops made me laugh alot good job
I just don't see why they needed to do this at all....imo the Ultimate Universe was great if they wanted to shake things up they didn't need all of the pointless deaths to do it...I just hope that it was worth it when Ultimate Comics starts
Cyclops dead? I almost think that maybe Ultimate Marvel will consist the existing superheroes team, and Cyclops could be the leader of the new team, but then again this is Ultimate universe (where my favourite mutant Colossus is gay).
Still dig it though
I liked this, What happened to Cyclops was just a big shocker to me, and Wolverine is so coming back, But like G-Man said with FF and X-Men just putting these people in jail, I was wondering how the Ultimates killed every villian they fought, but no one else did, I thought that was odd, but yeah this was a good issue, it gets me pumped for Ultimate Avengers and I have a preview to Ultimate Spider-Man Vol2 and it is amazing. Good review by the way G-Man, feels like forever since I've seen you or Babs review anything
your quote of Cyclops made me laugh alot good job
I just don't see why they needed to do this at all....imo the Ultimate Universe was great if they wanted to shake things up they didn't need all of the pointless deaths to do it...I just hope that it was worth it when Ultimate Comics starts
I believe allowing Jeph Loeb to pillage, rape, loot, and otherwise pee-upon what was once considered the most innovative comic book concept in DECADES a pathetic attempt at publicity and shock-value rather than coming clean and admitting they hit a wall. Joey Q had a bout of ADD and forgot he cared about the Ultimate Universe one day, probably because Bendis whispered the word "Skrull" into his ear, and they were off-n-runnin'. The books' collective quality, save for "Spider-Man", went right into the Ultimate Commode, so Comic Book Satan himself, Jeph Loeb, got the call to give this abortion a mercy-killing.
"Ultimatum #5" may as well be titled, "Sorry you poor shlubs invested so much time and money on growing fond of these characters; you were stupid to do it, you should've known better!"
Oh, number five, of course.
"Ultimatum #5" may as well be titled, "Sorry you poor shlubs invested so much time and money on growing fond of these characters; you were stupid to do it, you should've known better!"
Oh, number five, of course.
Cyclops dead? I almost think that maybe Ultimate Marvel will consist the existing superheroes team, and Cyclops could be the leader of the new team, but then again this is Ultimate universe (where my favourite mutant Colossus is gay).
Still dig it though
I don't want to hate on it, but all the deaths seem to lessen the important deaths we have sprinkled across the series. It wasn't a bad series over all I just feel that handfuls of better stories could have been told while we got pulled through this series and the delays only slow the pacing for the next era of Ultimate Marvel.
There are two reasons why they're doing this.... One, sales. We're in a recession, money's tight, and this kind of story makes waves. Gets people reading.
Two, brand new day. Most people, discerning people are not on board with this story. It's forced, it's lame, it's fleeting. Joe Quesada wants to make sure the only moderately good Spider-man to read about out there is BND Spidey, and in order to make it not look deliberate, he's willing to decimate the entire Ultimate universe in the process!
............... Okay, that last part was just me venting, but it's not improbable.....
Two, brand new day. Most people, discerning people are not on board with this story. It's forced, it's lame, it's fleeting. Joe Quesada wants to make sure the only moderately good Spider-man to read about out there is BND Spidey, and in order to make it not look deliberate, he's willing to decimate the entire Ultimate universe in the process!
............... Okay, that last part was just me venting, but it's not improbable.....
I have many issues with this comic. I don't think it was as terrible as some people do, but I don't know if I can agree with the 4 out of 5 G-man gave. The comic itself isn't bad, it's the fact that they ignored so many things that lead up to the event. Whatever happened to Ultimate Rick Jones? How did these metal people get the drop on Mags? Did he just let them do him in? I mean Valkyrie cut his flippin' are off with a sword! He couldn't have stopped that? That's like having hydroman die by drowning. And this whole series was called ultimatum...did you ever hear anyone offer said ultimatum?
I don't want to hate on it because this is my favorite universe, but I do think it should have been handled better but in the same turn it could have been handled much worse. I'm excited to see what happens next and Ultimatum did leave the UU in a very interesting and exciting position for years to come. I can't wait for UCSM and UCA now.
I don't want to hate on it because this is my favorite universe, but I do think it should have been handled better but in the same turn it could have been handled much worse. I'm excited to see what happens next and Ultimatum did leave the UU in a very interesting and exciting position for years to come. I can't wait for UCSM and UCA now.
@rouju said:
" Still dig it though "Thought I was the only one for a minute.
I haven't read any of these comics, but if Hulk is going up against Mystique can't she just change into the Hulk?????
i liked how some of the main characters died, its something the normal marvel comics wouldn't do and its nice to see it being done, not just little charcters who people dont even recognize
@Perspective91 said:
her changing into the Hulk doesn't make her as strong as the Hulk...all it does is make her look like the Hulk....she doesn't copy powers just appearence
"I haven't read any of these comics, but if Hulk is going up against Mystique can't she just change into the Hulk?????
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her changing into the Hulk doesn't make her as strong as the Hulk...all it does is make her look like the Hulk....she doesn't copy powers just appearence
@danhimself said:
"@Perspective91 said:
"her changing into the Hulk doesn't make her as strong as the Hulk...all it does is make her look like the Hulk....she doesn't copy powers just appearence "I haven't read any of these comics, but if Hulk is going up against Mystique can't she just change into the Hulk?????
"
@Perspective91 said:
"you saw how easily wolverine chopped them in half?@danhimself said:
"@Perspective91 said:
"her changing into the Hulk doesn't make her as strong as the Hulk...all it does is make her look like the Hulk....she doesn't copy powers just appearence "I haven't read any of these comics, but if Hulk is going up against Mystique can't she just change into the Hulk?????
"Oh, but what about Mystique in the first X-Men movie when she turned into wolverine and she had claws? (I know fox made the movie, but I'm just wondering...) "
I liked this, What happened to Cyclops was just a big shocker to me, and Wolverine is so coming back, But like G-Man said with FF and X-Men just putting these people in jail, I was wondering how the Ultimates killed every villian they fought, but no one else did, I thought that was odd, but yeah this was a good issue, it gets me pumped for Ultimate Avengers and I have a preview to Ultimate Spider-Man Vol2 and it is amazing. Good review by the way G-Man, feels like forever since I've seen you or Babs review anything
I felt bad for Kitty, but that's about all.
Aren't all of the F4 alive? lame.
Aren't all of the F4 alive? lame.
Scratch that, She still has Storm, Iceman, Jean, and Colossus, why does she think she's all alone?
@RaptorFratBoy said:
Joe and Jeph Destroyed Ultimate U cuz it was loved more than Marvel @$@$ing U" I believe allowing Jeph Loeb to pillage, rape, loot, and otherwise pee-upon what was once considered the most innovative comic book concept in DECADES a pathetic attempt at publicity and shock-value rather than coming clean and admitting they hit a wall. Joey Q had a bout of ADD and forgot he cared about the Ultimate Universe one day, probably because Bendis whispered the word "Skrull" into his ear, and they were off-n-runnin'. The books' collective quality, save for "Spider-Man", went right into the Ultimate Commode, so Comic Book Satan himself, Jeph Loeb, got the call to give this abortion a mercy-killing. "Ultimatum #5" may as well be titled, "Sorry you poor shlubs invested so much time and money on growing fond of these characters; you were stupid to do it, you should've known better!" Oh, number five, of course. "
def not a 4 out of 5. get serious. maybe a 2 or 2.5. it was fun to see something really different but overall it felt really forced and not very well done. all the characters dying just got old. no more shock value, just like "ok theres one more." like i said it was fun to read something that would never really happen in 616. but not that great.
and wait didnt spider-man straight up die? why did it say he was missing in action? i thought there was gunna be a new spidey or something. hmm
i def think wolverine sounded like "pbbbbbt" when he got blasted. good call g-man
and wait didnt spider-man straight up die? why did it say he was missing in action? i thought there was gunna be a new spidey or something. hmm
i def think wolverine sounded like "pbbbbbt" when he got blasted. good call g-man
G-Man, always a good reason to turn down my Pandora for five minutes. Nice review, brother.
I've got to disagree with your last statement though... I've always felt the Ultimates Universe was a bit more for mature readers than it was initially intended to be because Millar and Bendis did a lot more things with their characters that 616 normally doesnt and cant do. I certainly feel a lot more weight with Peter Parkers decisions in the Ultimates-verse than in 616 and I've also felt that there was a bit more of the characters sorta answering to realistic responsibilities. Such as Giant Man and his violent (and unfortunately graphic) relationship with Wasp. Hulk doesnt always seem to (at least at first) have that innocent little HULK SMASH JUST NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE and bystanders in the Ultimates-verse where he is seen eating people because of the savage and animalistic nature of his transformation. And Peters relationship with his Aunt in the Ultimates-verse was much more realistic (in my opinion) because of the distance between them once Uncle Ben (the one related to him by blood) was out of the picture.
So I may be wrong and you may not read this but...I just sorta wanted to voice my opinion on that little part.
I've got to disagree with your last statement though... I've always felt the Ultimates Universe was a bit more for mature readers than it was initially intended to be because Millar and Bendis did a lot more things with their characters that 616 normally doesnt and cant do. I certainly feel a lot more weight with Peter Parkers decisions in the Ultimates-verse than in 616 and I've also felt that there was a bit more of the characters sorta answering to realistic responsibilities. Such as Giant Man and his violent (and unfortunately graphic) relationship with Wasp. Hulk doesnt always seem to (at least at first) have that innocent little HULK SMASH JUST NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE and bystanders in the Ultimates-verse where he is seen eating people because of the savage and animalistic nature of his transformation. And Peters relationship with his Aunt in the Ultimates-verse was much more realistic (in my opinion) because of the distance between them once Uncle Ben (the one related to him by blood) was out of the picture.
So I may be wrong and you may not read this but...I just sorta wanted to voice my opinion on that little part.
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