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Should X-23 Have Been Canceled?

Marvel places their only self-titled, female character driven title on hiatus; but is this the wrong move?

We all come here because of our shared love for comic books and comic book characters, right? And obviously, we all have our favorites. Now, while I can't speak for everyone, I can speak for myself when I say that I honestly don't discriminate between male and female characters when I pick up a title to read. There are a lot of male character driven titles that I absolutely love -- characters that I find dapper, interesting and compelling. To me, what usually piques my interest is whether a story is fun and entertaining. Usually.

X-23 #16
X-23 #16

Every once in a while though, I want to read a book where the story is being driven by a female character, and I don't think that's unreasonable. Being that I am a girl, sometimes I just want to read stories where the girls are kicking ass. That's not too much to ask, especially considering the number of male character driven titles out there. And yes, I know, the majority of comic book readers and fans are male, so the publishers will tend to target the male audience by printing majority male character driven stories. But does that mean boys don't like reading about powerful ladies?

Earlier today we reported on a certain Marvel lady who appeared to be missing from the February 2012 solicits -- and it's hard to overlook her, actually, considering hers is the only self titled female ongoing book at Marvel at the moment. After the release of issue #20 of X-23, say goodbye to Laura's ongoing series -- at least for now. According to many reports, that issue will be the final one in her series. What happened, though? Why the decision to cancel X-23 (if indeed that is what happened)?

Comic books generally get the axe when editorial (specifically Editors-in-Chief) notice that the sales for a particular series is either low, or has relatively low expectations from the get-go. This is what caught me off guard when I found out about X-23's low sales. Looking at the total sales numbers for October, 2011; the series didn't seem to be doing that poorly -- it certainly wasn't the lowest selling title at Marvel. In fact, it only grossed a fraction worse than Hawkeye, and surpassed various other Marvel titles like AVENGERS ACADEMY, CLOAK AND DAGGER and several SPIDER-ISLAND offshoots. So what's the deal? Sure, placing 104 and selling 24,043 units for October isn't the best; but the series did manage to go up that month by at least 316 units. So what's the deal? Obviously, people are enjoying the series enough to buy it, so why put the series on hold?

X-23 listed at #104 for the month of October
X-23 listed at #104 for the month of October

We contacted the series' writer Marjorie Liu to get her take on Marvel's decision to omit the book from their February 2012 X-title solicits, but have yet to get a response. And with her busy schedule, we don't really blame her. Liu splits her time between writing novels, being a practicing attorney and writing X-23 -- or at least she did. In her recent blog she stated that she was "writing the lettering for X-23 #19" just last week, and that she had two more projects (which she couldn't discuss) in the works. Could these be more projects with Marvel? With #19 (almost) in the bag, it's no question that issue #20 of X-23 due on January 4th 2012 will be her last.

Still, the book seemed to be doing okay -- at least faring better than many other Marvel titles, so why give it the axe now? Yes, X-23 will soon be appearing in AVENGERS ACADEMY starting with issue #24 and she will also make an appearance in the upcoming VENOM six-part weekly event, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't continue to have her own book, should it? The end of issue #20 (the series' final issue) X-23 will return to Utopia to decide whether or not she will take part in Regenesis, but why should she lose her title as a result of the new story arc?

It's not just that the series is ending (and the numbers seemed alright) it's that out of Marvel's total monthly releases, X-23 was their only self-titled, female character driven series. Yes, many other Marvel books have female characters that appear in them, but only ONE, X-23, had a woman at the core of the story. Liu was doing more than just writing an action packed, superhero book featuring a female character; she was also developing that female character. And to be honest, it's been a long time since many of the Marvel ladies have actually seen any character development. Are they afraid to publish books centered around the ladies? Unfortunately, this kind of news signals to many Marvel female readers that the publisher doesn't necessarily care, or is inclined to target them as an audience. Are female Marvel fans valuable to Marvel? If they were, wouldn't there be more female character driven stories?

To me, a good character and a good story will make me want to read the book, but there's also nothing wrong with a little bit of "girl power." I will definitely miss X-23's ongoing series, and I feel that the character has a long way to go and has a lot of room to develop further. Hopefully we will get that in other books. What does the cancelation of X-23 mean to you as a reader? Do you think Marvel needs more female driven stories? Check out the preview to X-23 #17 which is set to hit stores tomorrow, below.

blur1528on Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:45 p.m.

BWA-haha! Adventures in Babysitting!

dvorakon Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:47 p.m.

Where do these statistics come from?

On subject, I actually really enjoy this series, and will be sad to see it get the axe.

Danial79on Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:48 p.m.

As I mentioned in the other thread, X-23 (blue) had the steepest decline of those lower-end titles over the last year. Marvel's cancellation line is around 20,000, and as you can see, X-23 was heading there pretty quickly:

Duo_forbiddenon Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:56 p.m.
I'm still upset about it. Laura is my Cassandra Cain when it comes to the Marvel universe. To be honest, I didn't know X-23's series was selling so low as well. Besides Ultimate Comics: X-Men, this was the only X-men series I was following. It feels like a slap to the face hearing this news.
As I wrote in a previous thread, I really can't see Laura sticking around with Avengers Academy for so long, nor can I see myself following that series. I hear good things about that series, but I just can't get into it. Honestly, I think she would do a lot better with Wolverine's group.
And after reading this article, I didn't realize that X-23 was the only Marvel comic featuring a female character 0_o
Wattupon Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:57 p.m.

Even as a fan of X-23, I have to say that her last few story arcs were pretty meh (and I don't mind Marjorie Liu as a writer) and worthy of cancellation based on the figures. I don't think the fact that it's a female character warrants a stay of execution if the quality is poor.

That being said, Marvel does have a crappy record of supporting female character titles. For all the grief DC gets for Starfire and Catwoman in the New 52, at least they've given Birds of Prey (over 100 issue in one volume), Catwoman (80+ issues), Batgirl (Cassie Cain's title lasted 60+ issues) and Wonder Woman sustained runs. I can't think of one Marvel female character that's had such a chance. The only one I can think of was Jessica Jones' Alias but that was a MAX title.

jsphsmthon Nov. 15, 2011 at 5:58 p.m.

Are sales more important than diversifying the product line? No.

Marvel is much worse off than DC regarding female centered titles and women creators, but DC have been getting eaten alive on the subject. Bad move Marvel, for bringing this fight right to your doorstep.

haydenclaireheroes is online on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:01 p.m.

For some reason Marvel cancels a lot of their female lead series. They should have more female lead series not cancel them.

blur1528on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:02 p.m.

I think all of you are missing the big picture. Hulu has the full movie of Adventures in Babysitting!!!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/295476/adventures-in-babysitting

What?! Directed by Chris Columbus? Why have I not noticed this before?

moywar700on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:02 p.m.

Maybe they wanted talented writer to finish up other projects, who knows?

PolarisJunkieon Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:05 p.m.

@Wattup said:

Even as a fan of X-23, I have to say that her last few story arcs were pretty meh (and I don't mind Marjorie Liu as a writer) and worthy of cancellation based on the figures. I don't think the fact that it's a female character warrants a stay of execution if the quality is poor.

That being said, Marvel does have a crappy record of supporting female character titles. For all the grief DC gets for Starfire and Catwoman in the New 52, at least they've given Birds of Prey (over 100 issue in one volume), Catwoman (80+ issues), Batgirl (Cassie Cain's title lasted 60+ issues) and Wonder Woman sustained runs. I can't think of one Marvel female character that's had such a chance. The only one I can think of was Jessica Jones' Alias but that was a MAX title.

You're forgetting Spider-Girl, the MC2 version, that had over 120+ issues dedicated to her.

mikeclark1982on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:07 p.m.

MARVEL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WOMEN!

MSBoyd23on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:11 p.m.

This makes me mad. We've got tons of Spider-Man books and Wolverine books--do all of them sell consistently better than X-23? Because not one of them is on my pull list.

Kallarkzon Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:13 p.m.

@blur1528 said:

fail troll attempt.

And no I don't think it should have. There are plenty of other titles that are doing horrible right now that they could have cut first.

cosmo111687on Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:13 p.m.

At least let X-23 get to issue #23, Marvel.

SecretKnighton Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:13 p.m.
It's sad that X-23 got cancelled and I think Marvel needs to drop their lowest series an get more female driven series.
fodiggon Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:14 p.m.

I don't know about should but big, fat, frowny face.

ClawFiston Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:14 p.m.

Honestly, as a male reader myself, this is highly upsetting. X-23 was and still is until cancellation on my main core monthly pull-list along with Wolverine, Daken, and X-Force. I can fluctuate my list, add comics, take away comics, but X-23 and my core list would always remain is what I told myself. I honestly feel this is where Marvel may be failing, we're getting too much extra titles with less exploration of other characters or other worlds etc. Such as now two Spider-Man titles, two Wolverine titles with one ending but this is just an example. We have several Avenger titles, which yes they are Avengers for different things but they borrow characters, even Defendors are taking characters from New Avengers. Don't misunderstand me, I enjoy all these books but we just don't need them, it seems like Marvel is sticking with what's good and taking so few chances. My favorite character of all time is Wolverine but we really don't need Wolverine and Wolverine The Best There Is, The Best There Is can easily be another story arc in his mainstream series.

And Marvel has so many great Female characters to use, X-23 only being one, we also have She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Red She-Hulk, Sepulcher I'd like to see her, Spider-Girl I'm already missing her, Snow Bird I'd like to see that, Hela could be an awesome mini, as well as Squirrel Girl, Black Cat, Satana, Valkyrie etc. This is one subject I think all of Marvel's competition is beating them on and I hope whatever is holding them back on this that Marvel can see the light and take several risks on their Astonishing Number of Amazing Female Characters. I'm a True Believer and I wanna believe it can happen

RedheadedAtrocituson Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:17 p.m.

All this merely means to me as a reader is that until we have all the cold hard facts of everything surrounding X-23's cancellation as an ongoing series, we can only speculate on what might have been the cause for its downfall. Maybe Liu is swamped with the other projects in her life and responsibilities she has. Maybe it did really succumb to cancellation due to simple economics and saw declining sales that Marvel just couldn't abide by anymore. We just do not simply know for certain. As for more female driven ongoing series, well unfortunately this just makes me wish to reiterate my point I made in another article regarding black superhero eligibility for movies...it shouldn't MATTER which character gets an ongoing, whether they are male, female, Christian, Muslim, communist, conservative, white, black, yellow, red, homosexual or straight. If X-23 has been axed, it is for a reason other than the fact that she's a female superhero obviously. Wonder Woman is a female-centered story that is currently in its fourth volume and continues to be popular because she's iconic. X-23 is arguably iconic too...but must still obey the rules of the marketplace. And if sales decline, then she has to face the music as well.

ImperiousRixon Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:18 p.m.

Noooooooooooooo!

This was consistently my favorite Marvel series! I can't believe it's gotten cancelled.

Actually... I can believe that it's been cancelled and that's what makes this so sad. X-23 was one of the few Marvel books currently going where the character was allowed to grow and develop outside of the greater hulla-baloo of the never-ending barrage of Marvel event comics. In fact, this last story arc actually finished with *gasp* genuine character growth and with a tease for the character moving into an exciting new direction. Knowing we'll never know where Liu was going with that is absolutely heart-breaking.

WarMachineMarkVon Nov. 15, 2011 at 6:20 p.m.

- I understand that there are many fans of X-23 that are disappointed by the cancellation, but as to if it should have been cancelled is hard to say until we see what other titles get the same treatment over the next month or two.

- The only thing more surprising that Disney forced a budget cut at Marvel Comics is that they would actually admit it was the reason for the cancellations. This action speaks volumes as to the health of the industry.

- I have not read X-23's series so I cannot really comment on the quality of the run, but solo series based on female characters is always a tough sell. Comics are still a male dominated genre and many will not even give one a look, much less buy in any regularity.

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