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Should Creators Have More Rights Over Their Characters?

Work for hire limits the rights a creator has over a given property, but should that change?

Making comics is not an easy job. Aside from the countless hours, sweat, frustration and tears a creator might put into a project, there is still the question of the amount of recognition and ownership any given creator should hold over a given property. A writer may work on a comic book series for an entire decade, make strides in a character's development, and still never be fully recognized for his efforts. The recent settlement between writer Neil Gaiman and co-founder of IMAGE Comics Todd McFarlane over ownership of SPAWN supporting characters Medieval Spawn, Angela and Cogliostro where Gaiman previously obtained "50 percent owner of content in two Spawn issues and the first three issues of a Spawn spin-off" got us thinking about creator rights and ownership. If a creator is hired by an individual or a publisher to create a character, should they be given some of the royalties of the work even in a "work for hire" situation?

Work for hire means that the person who is hired to create a work is not always the individual recognized as the author of that work and therefore won't hold any ownership rights over the work he or she created. Take for example a computer program. A computer program will always list the name of the company (Microsoft, for example) but it may not list the names of the developers who built the program. Additionally, the developers of said program will receive a payment for the work they were hired by the company to do, but they may not receive royalties for the number of programs that are sold.

The same thing goes for comic books. A company or creator might be hired to create a character or a concept. That concept or character might rise in popularity, but if the project was work for hire, the creators won't likely ever see royalties. The creator also won't hold any ownership over the properties and they will not be able to reprint the work. Essentially, even though they did the work, they do not own it.

For example; during his time at Marvel, Rob Liefeld created some of the most memorable Marvel comics characters. However, even though he created massively popular characters, Liefeld holds no ownership of them. Working for hire at Marvel means Liefeld relinquished his copyright ownership over properties he developed for the company. For example, when Liefeld and writer Fabian Nicieza first created Shatterstar for Marvel comics, he never intended for Shatterstar to be gay.

“… I have nothing against gays, I have gay family, nuthin’ but love here...Ditto gay characters if that’s what their true origins are. As the guy that created, designed and wrote his first dozen appearances, Shatterstar is not gay. Sorry. Can’t wait to someday undo this. Seems totally contrived.”

Although Liefeld may not have originally written Shatterstar to be gay, since Marvel holds the rights to the character, there is nothing that Liefeld can do about it. That is of course, until he gets the chance to write the character again. Even if you don't agree with Liefeld over Shatterstar's sexual orientation, he does present an interesting idea. As Shatterstar's creator, Liefeld obviously holds some sentiments regarding the type of character he envisions Shatterstar to be. As of now that quote, the portrayal of Shatterstar did not line up with the vision of his creator, but does it matter?

Should the character's creator have any rights over the character, even if the he or she was under a work for hire contract? Should Liefeld, or any creator that has done work for hire, get some kind of recognition or hold some kind of ownership over a given property? What do you think? What kind of rights do you think a creator should have?

Dernmanon Jan. 31, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
hmm I'm torn. Both sides can have very strong arguments.
ReVampon Jan. 31, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.

Yes, as long as it doesn't stop the company from allowing the character to develop.

zackattack529on Jan. 31, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.

if i created a comic character id want full ownership untill i decide to sell rights to someone. the whole reason i want to write comics is because i wanna create something. make my mark. not do this for money, i dont wnt it to be a job.

The Sadhuon Jan. 31, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
Interesting article... Recognition for character creation... Yes Copy Right for characters... Hmmmm... not sure on that one?!?!
spiderbat87 is online on Jan. 31, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
If a creator want's full control over a character they should write for a creator-owned-company. If they don't then they have no right to complain about what the company is doing with them.
anxioustubeon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5 p.m.

Of course the creator of a character should be given credit for their work. If the work is cannon; then most definitely. The creator of character at least should have overview of the work for hire work that is created by the company.

LordRequiemon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.

I think if they have designed and created a character it should be theirs by right, and not twisted by another entity unless they wish it so. To see something you've spawned (pun intended) be manipulated in a way not your own must be very demoralising.

thecomicscoveon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:04 p.m.

Much as I am all for creators' rights, I'm forced to fall on the side of the publishers on this one. If you sign a contract that is work-for-hire, your involvement ends at the conclusion of said contract. You can try to stipulate things during the negotiations, but once you sign on the dotted line, you're basically bound to what's written in that piece of paper.

The moral: artists, writers, creators, know what you're signing on for.

charlieboyon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
eh shatterstar is a lot more interesting character now than he was back then. but i am sorry if you work for one of the big comic companies they own the characters. that is just how it is.
JonesDeinion Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.

@spiderbat87 said:

If a creator want's full control over a character they should write for a creator-owned-company. If they don't then they have no right to complain about what the company is doing with them.

Up, really no other side of this to me, folk. You know the deal going into the situation.

DoomDoomDoomon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.

I think the creator should at least be acknowledge Similar to how Batman's creators, Kane and Finger, are usually mentioned in the beginning of your typical Bats comic.

Argh...I'm not really that sure. Creators should retain some rights without encroaching on artistic freedom if a new writer or artist comes along after the original creator has stepped out. -HMPH- I'm truly out of my depth here.

spiderbat87 is online on Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.
@LordRequiem said:

I think if they have designed and created a character it should be theirs by right, and not twisted by another entity unless they wish it so. To see something you've spawned (pun intended) be manipulated in a way not your own must be very demoralising.

But that's like saying if a construction company is hired to build some houses for another company then get money for every person that lives in the house and also get to complain when the house is then converted in to a service station.
BlackArmoron Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.

Liefeld planning to undo Shatterstar seems like kind of a troll move

DarthShap is online on Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.

I am all for copyrights protecting the rights of authors but let's face it. If not for these two majors owning all these characters, there would be no Marvel and DC shared universe.

This is why we fans are usually split over this topic, especially considering the threat of a DCU without Superman.

Fantasgasmicon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.

I think they should be able to get some royalties for future uses of the character, or the option to map out a character's history. If the creator has a specific history in mind for someone they should be able to set it up and have it canon (assuming it's not generic and vague) but if they didn't have any ideas/plans and just don't like how the character evolved, too bad so sad.

Gordo789on Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.

so long as that creator isn't Rob Liefeld.

jordamaon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.

I think they knew the deal when they went in. The characters aren't theirs in that sense. And to Liefield's point, the development was explained in a completely reasonable way. And again I will point out that Shatterstar is pansexual, not gay. It has been shown in many panels that he is still attempting to have sexual relationships with females.

VioletPhoenixon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.

sometimes it allows the characters to develop amazingly and really show growth and change, keeps characters from getting stagnant. I mean look how far Shatterstar has come as a character, he's really really been given room to change and work with X-Factor's dynamic. When it works, it works.

thecomicscoveon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.

@LordRequiem said:

I think if they have designed and created a character it should be theirs by right, and not twisted by another entity unless they wish it so. To see something you've spawned (pun intended) be manipulated in a way not your own must be very demoralising.

I can understand your viewpoint, but it just doesn't work that way. Unless you flat-out do all the work yourself, including publishing, distribution, and marketing, you generally have to go with a publisher, and publishers do their business through contracts. If you sign on to work for hire, then you basically have to play by those rules.

It basically comes down to knowing which arenas you're playing in, and playing accordingly:

Let's say I'm working on a story idea that I plan to publish on my own at some point, or maybe go through a creator-owned publishing house. I will work extra hard to make sure I retain as much creative control as I can. But it may be a long time (if ever) that I see much money for my work. I can accept that. In that instance, I want to have as much input into a narrative that I've developed over a long time.

Let's say I have another idea that, if I ever managed to catch Marvel's attention, I think would be perfect for their comic universe. If I ever do sign a contract with them, I know that once I tell that story, introduce any new characters in it, etc., that's it. I'm done. They can do with them what they please once I've told that particular story. And I can accept that as well. In that instance, I just want to tell that story to that particular audience, and then bow out.

Meteoriteon Jan. 31, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
Just look at how Image works; they may not be the biggest company, but having more creator rights has worked fine for them, and it allows a lot more creative freedom. More companies should follow in their footsteps.

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A refugee from Mojoworld, Shatterstar came to earth and joined forces with Cable's New Mutants which soon transformed into X-force. He is a militant individual, with a passion for War. He is a member of X-Factor Investigations and is in a relationship with fellow teammate Rictor.

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