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Added by Babs on June 20, 2009

 
When it came to comics, I would say I was sort of a late bloomer and I really didn't delve into them until I was in my upper teens. So when I read an article in the Charlotte Chronicle today about parents who were outraged over "Batman
Batman Confidential #18
Batman Confidential #18
Confidential #18," I kind of rolled my eyes, knowing that parents can be parents and that could mean they overreact sometimes. Then again, what I may not find offensive, someone else very well could.  How bad could it have been, really? Thinking back to the issue, I can recall there being a weak plot, and 'okay' art until I remembered the content. In the issue, Catwoman steals Commissioner Gordon's notebook, and Batgirl (Gordon) chases Selina to a nudist club. There's the kicker; the nudist club part. So maybe these parents in Charlotte, North Carolina had a case. Having read the comic, though; it sounds much worse than it actually is. While the comic itself, from what I remember did take the two female characters to a nudist club; it was far from pornographic. In fact, it was almost campy. The level of graphic material was insignificant compared to what we see in Moore's "The Killing Joke," or Millar's "All Star Batman and Robin." Then again, I read comics; these people obviously don't; so seeing the panels was obviously a bigger deal for them than it would be for me.
For a dime, Spivock bought the comic book last week for her 12-year-old son at Mecklenburg's South County Regional Library. Her kids recently discovered the 1960s Batman TV show. The most eye-popping scene is a two-page spread showing Batgirl's body-to-body tussle with Catwoman for the important notebook. But it doesn't look like a struggle, and contains none of those exclamations from the TV show: POW! BOOM! WHAM! Spivock and her husband, Bill, were not amused.
Okay, the "Batman" television show? Have these people been living in a cave for the last 50 years that they have not watched "Batman Begins" or "The Dark Knight" ? Even Joel Shoemaker and Tim Burton's film versions of Batman were a far cry from the campy and playful Adam West television interpretation of Batman of yesteryear. Even so, I should not be so insensitive. As parents, I feel that if they are really concerned with the reading material their children are exposed to, it is ultimately their responsibility to screen the material beforehand. However, I do feel that DC comics does not do enough to aid parents in that endeavor and that maybe they should take some responsibility.

The call for a rating system!

Stop reading this, right now. Get up, go to your dresser and pick up the last Marvel comic you purchased. Don't open it. Look at the cover. On the bottom left you will see a rating system which will indicate one of the following four options:

  • # ALL AGES
Appropriate for readers of all ages.

  • # A
Appropriate for ages 9 and up.

  • # T+ TEENS & UP
Appropriate for most readers 13 and up, parents are advised that they may want to read before or with younger children.

  • # PARENTAL ADVISORY
15+ years old similar to T+ but featuring more mature themes and/or more graphic imagery. Recommended for teen and adult readers.

  • # MAX: EXPLICIT CONTENT
18+ years old Most Mature Readers books will fall under the MAX Comics banner, (created specifically for mature content titles) MAX and Mature-themed titles will continue to be designed to appear distinct from mainline Marvel titles, with the "MAX: Explicit Content" label very prominently displayed on the cover. MAX titles will NOT be sold on the newsstand, and they will NOT be marketed to younger readers.

Marvel does this with each and every one of their issues, and a lot of people seem to think that it might be in DC's best interest to adopt a similar rating system in order to prevent instances such as these from re-occuring.
"DC seriously needs to adopt a rating system for their books. I don't know why they haven't started yet."- Tina/Batmansgirl via http://twitter.com/batmansgirl
Tina, I completely agree. I have personally always felt that as a publishing company with content that varies in being very innocent to sometimes very graphic; it may be in their best interest to utilize a rating system similar to Marvel's. However, this does beg the question: will instilling a rating system for all DC Comics, or perhaps a unanimous rating system for all comics in general really make that much of a difference to some parents? I know, I know; always the pessimist, but how often have I seen parents complain about content in the media in the past? While I feel that DC should input a rating system of their own, I don't necessarily feel that it will make a dramatic difference in the way some parents approach comics. In the end, I really feel that ultimately they are the ones in control over the material that their children are exposed to, and I am sure that Mr. and Mrs. Spivock's 12 year old son has been exposed to much worse material via the internet and "Victoria's Secret" catalogs than what he saw in that issue of Batman Confidential.

Lastly, in no way do I find it a coincidence that this article was printed in the Charlotte, North Carolina newspaper just in time for the Charlotte, North Carolina "Heroes Convention." Just saying.


106 Comments

Jamiracles
on June 20, 2009

I think the problem is parents sitting their kids in front of the TV or any old thing and then being surprised when GI JOE detonates the F-Bomb.

I didnt realize DC didnt have a rating system, though.


Vortex13
on June 20, 2009
Some parent's will be outraged regardless of how tame the subject matter. What I find hilarious is that it's hardly ever about violence which is much more present in most comics than sex. I have no problem with either one and I agree that it is the parents responsibility to screen material for their children. Also they're going to learn about sex and nudity no matter what, chances are that kid's already thinking about sex.

Vortex13
on June 20, 2009
@Jamiracles: The have a little thing that says approved by the comic code (I just checked) but yea I didn't realize it either.

aztek the lost
on June 20, 2009
I never pay any heed to the rating systems, but the fact that parents all seem to think comics are "kid-friendly" or even for kids does annoy me, it's not the kid's fault his mom bought him a comic she didn't approve and its not DC's...the only problem I see here is her assumption

Sparda
on June 20, 2009
I think that it's really the parents fault for not at least sifting through the comic before hand, or at least gaining some sort of knowledge of it. If they don't want to read through it themselves, I'm sure a quick google-search could find the info they wanted.

Although, it's strange for DC to not have a rating system. Just from some of the stuff I've read, DC has (like you said) a wide range of content that goes from pretty innocent to fairly graphic.

TheDastardlyHippo
on June 20, 2009
Conservatives: Ruining comics since 1954.

Vortex13
on June 20, 2009
@TheDastardlyHippo: lol

Gambler
on June 20, 2009
My personal opinion (and of course I'm not a parent) is that the Spivock family saw an opportunity to get five minutes of fame and took it. Like you said in your closing Babs, I to have to question the timing of this incident. If their excuse is that they watched the old Adam West Batman t.v. show and decided to then purchase Batman Confidential #18 and were shocked by the content, I'm not buying it. You can take one look at the cover and clearly see its a far cry from the T.V. show. Catwoman's custom is all torn not to mention her chest is heavily exaggerated. That right there should have raised a red flag for this uber sensitive mother. At the very least you would think it would have caused her to open it up and flip through a couple pages. Hahahaha I mean wtf, Batman isn't even on the cover. You would think after watching the show she would have at least picked up an issue with the star on the cover. But that's just me. Not to mention the kid was 12, 12! Good thing she didnt check out a comic with Powergirl, she would have never recovered and probably sued the Library.

Now having said that, there's really no excuse for DC comics not to have a rating system. Will it stop parents like the Spivocks from protesting or complaining about the mature nature of comics, no, but at least it takes some of their ammunition away.






Nova`Prime`
on June 20, 2009
The problem isn't the rating system and if there is one or not. Its parents for the most part are ill-informed. They see a colorful cover and think "My child likes Batman/Spiderman.. I should buy it.. who needs to read it." Then when they get home and glance at it they freak out, first by yelling at the seller, saying stuff like "you are being irresponsible and not informing your customers of the books content." Then they go after the comic company basically saying the same thing, but during the whole process no one says those same things to the parent. No one says "No sir or ma'am you are being irresponsible for not opening the books and either reading it or at least looking over it to find if it is suitable."

Parents today seem to be more interested in letting others, TV, Comic Books, Movies, and the Internet to raise their children. So when the child turns into a mess its not their fault, "they watched to much TV or played to many video games." It makes me sick what this country is turning into. It seems people forget that censorship is what helped the facist germans and the communist russians gain so much power.

Sha
on June 20, 2009
I love it when i see parents outraged over Comics/Literature, but turn around and buy their kids the latest 007 game lol

Vance Astro
on June 20, 2009
F#ck parents.It's their fault their kids are f#ck-ups,not comics.Also they need to take the ratings off comics,it's not even remotely necessary  and more importantly nobody even checks for them.

Nova`Prime`
on June 20, 2009
@Vance Astro: 150% agree with you there Vance. The same can be said for video games, the only people that look at them and use them are retailers. The kids certainly don't, most of this little b@st@rds just put their hand out, get money and go buy whatever they want. Then the parents get upset at the sellers. Its not hard, its called being a good parent and half of that is interacting with your kids and know what they are up too.

And that's all for my ranting today.

G'bandit
on June 20, 2009
Ignorant parents with the same old bs..

Maybe is time to stop blaming shows, movies, comics, mangas, internet sites, etc. and start blaming themselves for not paying attention to what their children are watching or reading..

Is hell easy to blame others.
They think they are perfect but a comic does not fall into a person's hands like magic, it must be chosen, paid for and taken home.

I don't know, maybe they should of read the damn comic that has a hot D-cup spandex kitty girl on the cover with her clothes all tear up in the first place before giving it to their kid.


Korg
on June 20, 2009
That poor blind woman...

Gambler
on June 20, 2009
I don't see the ranting system as something that's suppose to solve the problem. Its more of an insurance policy or disclaimer for the company. Jon and Sally homemaker cant really complain about buying a comic for a 12 year and being shocked by the content if there's a mature rating on the cover.

Anderson: Agent of SMITH
on June 20, 2009
@Nova`Prime` said:
 "It seems people forget that censorship is what helped the facist germans and the communist russians gain so much power."

I know this is a bit off topic, but do you mind explaining that? I'm not disagreeing at all, I'm just a bit curious about that idea.

Vance Astro
on June 20, 2009
@Nova`Prime` said:
" @Vance Astro: 150% agree with you there Vance. The same can be said for video games, the only people that look at them and use them are retailers. The kids certainly don't, most of this little b@st@rds just put their hand out, get money and go buy whatever they want. Then the parents get upset at the sellers. Its not hard, its called being a good parent and half of that is interacting with your kids and know what they are up too.And that's all for my ranting today. "
I hope the Obama administration will just ignore stupidity like this or he would just make a speech about the parents of America are obligated to raise their kids instead of letting T.V and their objects of interest do it for them.The sad thing about this is we all have to suffer for other people's failures to raise their kids.The more stupid sh#t people do,the more restrictions we have.Pretty soon we aren't going to be able to anything without I.D.

04nbod
on June 20, 2009
I too was a late bloomer and agree that DC's ratings system sucks

King Saturn
on June 20, 2009
This issue doesnt bother me at all... I will be the judge of what it suitable for my kid to read, watch or whatever... if I feel its unsuitable then I will take care of the issue

Incredible Hulk-Prime
on June 20, 2009
@Babs:
I agree DC should make a rating system on  their comics like Marvel does.


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