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Off My Mind: Will the DC Universe Be Rebooted Again After Flashpoint?

Is it really that crazy of an idea?

Flashpoint has just begun and we know the DC Universe proper has been completely altered. Barry Allen awoke to find the world had changed. From what we know, he wasn't transported to another world, dimension or reality. He is in the actual main DC Universe. This was also seen in Booster Gold #44 when Skeets told Booster that they were in the same timeline.

Everything has changed. The heroes are different. Some of the heroes we know are actually dead and there are new versions of other ones. We, as comic book readers, know this isn't really a big deal. We've seen similar events with Age of Apocalypse, Heroes Reborn and recently Age of X. We know it's just a comic book event and things will eventually return to normal. We can sit back and enjoy this new twist to the characters we know and wait patiently for the return of what we've been reading.

There has been a rumor floating around about the fate of the DC Universe. In most of the regular titles, major storylines are approaching a firm conclusion (Wonder Woman's The Odyssey, Superman's Reign of the Doomsdays, etc). On August 31, 2011, there will be only one DC Comics issue released, Flashpoint #5, the final issue of the miniseries. Speculation has been brewing that after Flashpoint, the DC Universe might not revert back to its original form. Is there any way it'd be possible for DC to abandon all it's current ongoing titles in favor of the new characters and direction developing in Flashpoint?

The quick response is, "No way!" How could DC possibly turn its back on all us loyal readers and simply do away with the decades of character development we've had? If you really think about it, it's not really hard to believe they might do that.

How many times has the DC Universe been rebooted? First of all, we have the Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age and current continuity that are not connected. For example, when Alfred first appeared in Batman #16, Bruce Wayne was an adult and Dick Grayson was already his ward. Alfred mentioned his father hand worked for the Wayne family but Bruce did not know him and was not raised by him after his parents were shot. We also have the other stories like Supergirl making out with her horse Comet. That hasn't happened in the current incarnation of the character.

Heroes Reborn rebooted several characters.
Heroes Reborn rebooted several characters.

The DC characters have had their origins tweaked many times over the years. What's to stop DC from doing it one more time? It's not a completely unheard of idea. Marvel sort of did the same thing with Heroes Reborn. The Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Captain America and Iron Man all had new origins. Anything that happened before didn't matter...until they made their way back to the regular 616 universe. Heroes Reborn lasted a year. There might have been a slight uproar over it but the books did sell.

If DC decided to continue the world of Flashpoint beyond the five issue miniseries, it would be easier for new readers to jump into the books. People may know everything about Superman's origin but if you were to think about picking up Action Comics to read about him, the fact that the issue is now in the 900s could be intimidating. That's 900 other stories that have gone by and the new reader might feel overwhelmed by the fact that there's a lot of history and events they've missed.

The sad fact is comic books don't sell the incredibly high numbers they used to. It was mind-boggling that Jim Lee's X-Men sold over 7 million copies and today's major books barely crack 100,000. Despite this, superheroes and comic books are becoming more popular in Hollywood. The truth is you can have millions of people that will see a comic book movie but less than a hundred thousand will actually read the comics. With a reboot of characters, DC could create new franchise after franchise. The success of Marvel's THOR shows that even characters that aren't as mainstream as Spider-Man or the X-Men can still make a lot of money.

What about the Batman movies? We're pretty sure that The Dark Knight Rises will be Christopher Nolan's final Batman movie. When the inevitable next movie comes out, it will be a reboot just as Spider-Man and X-Men are getting rebooted. The Batman movies could easily be rebooted to fit more closely to the Flashpoint version. The same could happen to Superman and Green Lantern. There's room to bend a little.

What do I honestly think? I don't believe DC would completely wipe out the 75 years of the characters we know, even if they have gone through changes over the years. What I can believe is that they could try to stretch out Flashpoint beyond the fifth issue in August. If this is a major event, we're getting five issues in only four months. The big comic events usually last much longer than that. Sure the Flash may be involved but why is there a need to rush this along?

Over the next couple weeks, if the Flashpoint miniseries are successful, I could totally see DC 'announcing' that the world will carry on this way...at least for a little bit longer. They may try to convince us that they are going to cancel all their other titles and replace them for another month or two or three. After everyone has their say whether they love the idea or hate it, DC can decide what they will do next.

I don't have a problem with change. Spider-Man changed his costume. Superman died (and later got electric-based powers). Iron Man was replaced by Rhodey. Captain America and Batman both died. Eventually things return to the status quo. There is no need to get in an uproar when a character goes through a major change. They always return to what we know because it's what we know. Do people really want rehashes of the same old stories over and over? There's nothing wrong with trying to mix things up once in a while. Let the publishers experiment a little and give us fresh takes on characters and go in different directions. Then after it's played out, the characters will go back to their old ways. DC most likely will not reboot their entire line of comics and characters but if they did for a little bit, I would be totally okay with that.

Trizetacannonon May 27, 2011 at 12:11 a.m.
I can't wait to see what they decide to with this great concept and opportunity.
jcj145on May 27, 2011 at 12:13 a.m.
Good article and very well explained, bravo
doomsilver is online on May 27, 2011 at 12:25 a.m.
nice thoughts
Sawcesomeon May 27, 2011 at 12:27 a.m.
In Flashpoint #5, Flash gives up his marriage so Neron can set the world right.
Evpraksiyaon May 27, 2011 at 12:33 a.m.
I'll be glad to see this WW and the odyssey one no more. But it's a shame in a way. 
They can do it, just to tell people hey now you can buy and be able to understand everything without reading 75 years of comics before. Follow us. You've seen our movies now buy more than 2 issues from us we're taking down everything. So that's a possibility and in the main time people fan or not  will talk about it and read it just to see. Since it's a mini série and not one where we've to run after 50 # from different series etc...
NightFang is online on May 27, 2011 at 12:35 a.m.
@Sawcesome said:

In Flashpoint #5, Flash gives up his marriage so Neron can set the world right.

Oh please not another "One More Day"!!!
Jordanstineon May 27, 2011 at 12:44 a.m.
Hurray for reboots!

We get 2 to 3 continuity reboots from DC every 10 years so this was LONG OVERDUE.

The new reboot should be called:


Thumbs up or toes sideways if you like!  Oops... this isn't facebook.
Raven575on May 27, 2011 at 12:50 a.m.
Throughout all of the Crisis mini-series' the DC Universe has changed dramatically, back and forth, good and bad. Personally I am just tired of all of these super long over-arching storylines that take a year.

Countdown, 52, One Year After...come on! Give the public a break for a minute. Sinestro Corps, Blackest Night and Brightest Day have taken up a couple years now, we need regular stories for a bit. Something that we can pick up a book understand that there is a beginning and an end. Something that we don't have to buy thirteen other titles just to see all angles of the story. 

I get that these big company-wide stories are good money makers and they introduce us to characters that we might not normally see, but nows the chance to give them a run at their own title. See if people want to continue following the story of Deadman...see if Hawk and Dove deserve their own long-running title again.

I would much prefer a break and keep these big blockbuster, multi-comic stories for a company's summer line. Three to four month runs and then back to delving into the individual characters.

Reboot if you want, that doesn't bother me. Give us a couple months of a alternate timeline acroos all titles...cool. But stop with the "Final, Final, (no we're really serious about it this time) Crisis" stuff.
War Killer is online on May 27, 2011 at 12:54 a.m.
@G-Man:

Eventually things return to the status quo. There is no need to get in an uproar when a character goes through a major change.

Can we be in an uproar BECAUSE things always return to the status quo?
perry_411on May 27, 2011 at 1:10 a.m.
This is a great article. It creates a rough feeling of what the future may hold, but doesn't spoil any ongoing information. BIG THUMBS UP! Tonight you put the man in G-Man.
Eyzon May 27, 2011 at 1:22 a.m.
Noo! Don't reboot now, the current status quo was perfect in my eyes!
Be it the Bat-characters, the relations between characters, the various teams like Secret Six, Shadowpact (they need a new book- quick!!), Birds of Prey, etc..

But they can retcon anything that happened to Roy Harper or Ryan Choi recently.
darkrideron May 27, 2011 at 1:27 a.m.
 i know one thing will happen for sure deathstroke will have both eyes back
GBrutalityon May 27, 2011 at 1:29 a.m.
I super hope they don't because I've been crazy digging almost all the batman books lately. reboot everything else if you want, i don't particularly care. but those have been doing very well to the point it makes zero sense.
spiderbat87 is online on May 27, 2011 at 2:10 a.m.
Yea I think it would be good if some of the changes made in flashpoint became permanent, but not all of them
dorsk188on May 27, 2011 at 2:23 a.m.
Forget DC, when am I getting my full-scale Marvel reboot?

A cosmic cube fueled comic universe-wide reset would coincide well with the cosmic cube centered Avengers movie...  Come on, Joe Q, you know you want it.
DoctorTripson May 27, 2011 at 2:33 a.m.
I would like to see the DC universe get a reboot if they do it to fix a lot of mistakes and continuity problems. Also if they applied rules like "Death means dead" and "Actions have lasting un-retconable consequences" you know things like that. They'd even get my full support if they just said "Nothing's really changed except we got rid of the sliding timescale and given characters their secret identities back! Now shut up we have to go back counting our money."

However this is just a rumor one that's really getting irritating. So I'm hoping that they throw a curveball and do something completely different. Like have Jonathan Kent wake up and it's revealed that he'd dreamed everything that has happened in the DC universe the night after finding baby Kal-El in his ship, it'd be so ballsy I'd have to applaud it.
Knight Trainon May 27, 2011 at 2:41 a.m.
Maybe they could reboot the old series and make this new dystopian end of the world world its own universe and continue to show the rebirth of civilisation etc and continue the adventures of our heroes, but still show events before flashpoint.
ComicMan24on May 27, 2011 at 2:43 a.m.
I hope they won't do anything like this. I am sure there will be a few changes after it is over but not a total reboot.
Grimon May 27, 2011 at 2:44 a.m.
@raven575: Dc has been doing a great job of making the events easy to digest. Blackest nights tie-ins didnt matter and barely effected the individual titles. 52 was stand alone (minus the mini-events that you didnt have to read), and the One Year Later tag was just so people didnt think it was right after the Crisis. And the current War of The GL's doesnt even effect any titles outside of the GL ones. DC has made it very easy for you to sit back and ignore the events for a couple months, then pick up the trade to see what was going on. Easier than Marvel, whos events have been all-encompassing as of late because almost every corner of their universe is represented in an Avengers team.

 any way i think we're only looking at Minor changes here. I can imagine were loosing some Flashes (that space is getting a little cramped), and perhaps Cyborg (they like to ditch criminally under appreciated characters in these. Pantha, Wildebeast, Elongated Man...). or if  they really hate me and want to mix those, well be loosing Bart Allen.
 but i think all and all this is just going to be another small clean up. At the end, some characters will be younger, some will have never existed, and some limbs will be lost and/or found. But i dont think DC plans on doing a solid reboot, just a little update.
Out_of_Spaceon May 27, 2011 at 3:27 a.m.

They need to change something but not rebooting the whole DC Universe.

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