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Off My Mind: Can Comic Book Characters Get Divorced?

Divorce isn't a common thing. It's usually "until death" do they part.


Love and marriage...and comic book characters. Comic characters don't usually undergo major changes.  I remember when Superman's marriage to Lois Lane was a huge announcement in 1996. Spider-Man had decided he didn't need to remain a bachelor forever in 1987. Cyclops and Jean Grey finally tied the knot in 1994 as well. 
 
It was Babs' article about DoomWar yesterday that sparked this idea of comic characters getting divorced. Let me say, I'm not the biggest fan of Storm and Black Panther's marriage. Since she's been married, she seems to have gotten weak, as a character. This brought on the idea of could they get divorced. Babs brought up the point whether or not comic book characters actually get divorced. This is also something Inferiorego suggest Lois and Superman do back in March.
Divorce does happen in comics (see Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne). It just doesn't happen too often. Why is that? Divorce is something that (unfortunately) does happen in real life. If comic characters get divorced, are they being bad role models? Does that give the characters a bad stigma?
 
Divorce seems to be something the publishers avoid with the major characters. What happened when it was decided to end the marriage between Spider-Man and Mary Jane? She makes a deal with the " devil" and the marriage is over. What happens when Cyclops mentally cheats on Jean Grey with Emma Frost? Jean ends up getting killed by Xorn and the marriage is over. It almost seems that comic book characters literally remain married "until death" do they part.


No one really wants to read about comic characters going through a divorce. It just seems a little weird that writers and publishers tend to avoid the subject. Unless I'm forgetting a bunch of characters that have gone to divorce court, it just rarely happens. Characters can turn evil, have psychic affairs, make deals with the devil or even kill but get divorced? That isn't something they want to put on a character's shoulders.
Ziccarra_Liafadoron May 26, 2010 at 6:38 a.m.
I do think it takes off the appeal of the heroes being role models. Even though it's a "Worldly" thing (Marriage and Divorce), I'm guess it would be to dicey to just have them divorce, because of the proximity with most young readers, and their parents. I too noticed this back, in the Civil War, when Susan Richards switched sides, and was more content with fighting her husband then just leaving him all together.
ironshadowon May 26, 2010 at 6:38 a.m.
They shouldn't get married in the first place but if they do than they should stay that way until death do them apart.
Gylan Thomason May 26, 2010 at 6:46 a.m.
@Sha said:
" I do think it takes off the appeal of the heroes being role models. Even though it's a "Worldly" thing (Marriage and Divorce), I'm guess it would be to dicey to just have them divorce, because of the proximity with most young readers, and their parents. I too noticed this back, in the Civil War, when Susan Richards switched sides, and was more content with fighting her husband then just leaving him all together. "
I think if a divorce story was handled well enough it might actually be a bit of a help to young readerds watching parents go through the same thing.
Ziccarra_Liafadoron May 26, 2010 at 6:48 a.m.
@Gylan Thomas said:
" @Sha said:
" I do think it takes off the appeal of the heroes being role models. Even though it's a "Worldly" thing (Marriage and Divorce), I'm guess it would be to dicey to just have them divorce, because of the proximity with most young readers, and their parents. I too noticed this back, in the Civil War, when Susan Richards switched sides, and was more content with fighting her husband then just leaving him all together. "
I think if a divorce story was handled well enough it might actually be a bit of a help to young readerds watching parents go through the same thing. "
True, or it could just be a harsh reality.
pixelized moderator on May 26, 2010 at 6:48 a.m.
@ironshadow said:
" They shouldn't get married in the first place but if they do than they should stay that way until death do them apart. "
I suspect a surge in homicides.
Gylan Thomason May 26, 2010 at 6:52 a.m.
@Sha: 
But he poor kid's gotta get over the reality of it some time. Help to know they're not the only one and that it might not be as bad as they expect.
Plus I'd say considering comic book readership is mainly teens and adults who've accepted much worse than divorce in our four colour entertainment the stories may well benefit from it. Divorce happens so why not in the comic stories?
Kid's young enough to not be able to handle divorce are probab;y still on the kid friendly books.
BulletproofKenon May 26, 2010 at 6:56 a.m.
Fine example in DC's identity Crisis. Don't get divorced. She'll turn crazy, go microscopic, and start a killing rampage.
Namor1987on May 26, 2010 at 6:57 a.m.
@Gylan Thomas said:
" @Sha said:
" I do think it takes off the appeal of the heroes being role models. Even though it's a "Worldly" thing (Marriage and Divorce), I'm guess it would be to dicey to just have them divorce, because of the proximity with most young readers, and their parents. I too noticed this back, in the Civil War, when Susan Richards switched sides, and was more content with fighting her husband then just leaving him all together. "
I think if a divorce story was handled well enough it might actually be a bit of a help to young readerds watching parents go through the same thing. "
I feel what you're saying it could help them kind of like a coping mechanism. Like Hulk helped teens with anger issues when he debuted
pixelized moderator on May 26, 2010 at 7 a.m.
Speaking of, what happened to Green Arrow and Black Canary? My comic guy said they, "broke up" but married people can't just break up.
Shieldbeareron May 26, 2010 at 7:01 a.m.

Life is an interesting topic in comics, since few in the Marvel universe age, but their children somehow grow to adulthood then stop. 
 
I believe divorce in comics would provide a sense of "realism" as much the absence of character aging --how many characters are stuck in their mid-30s?-- I find it rediculous that children are allowed to grow to adulthood, but their parents remain the same age indefinately. How decrepit should Cable be after raising Hope while still suffering from that techno-organic virus? 
As far as divorce is concerned, J. Michael Straczynski was working that angle when he was writing ASM, but the powers that be put that to a halt and instead settled on a reboot.  --which is why i still haven't picked up an issue in how many years has it been since OMD?-- I believe it would have been much easier had Peter Parker just gotten a divorce rather than making a deal with Mephisto, perhaps Joe Q grew up in a broken family and distains it as much as he does smoking.
 
Hawkeye and Mockingbird had a divorce and are now just working things out. (granted she was "dead" for quite some time.
cmapriceon May 26, 2010 at 7:12 a.m.
Because superhero comics serve as allegory. Real world situations are represented through metaphor.
 
Being a social minority = Being a mutant.
Having an identity crisis = Finding out you're a clone or you've been cloned. 
Drug addiction = Power or technology dependency. 
Getting divorced = Having your marriage erased. 
 
Of course we do see breaks from this, with real world situations to further connect to people going through real-world struggles (Northstar is not only a mutant which was in part a metaphor for homosexuals, but is also openly gay. Many characters face chemical addiction, but it's usually accompanied by a larger power struggle and lust for hyperbolic thrills.) 
 
While the real world issues do occasionally seep their way into stories, comics are a form of escapism. No matter how gritty or realistic books get, there will always be a need for metaphors and euphimisms.
Red_Justiceon May 26, 2010 at 7:28 a.m.
Heroes can't get divorced, it takes away from their integrity.
spiderguylllon May 26, 2010 at 7:30 a.m.
@Red_Justice: Exactly
DH69on May 26, 2010 at 7:43 a.m.
nope divorce is a bad thing in comics, so just usually kill one of them =D
Shieldbeareron May 26, 2010 at 7:54 a.m.

Well even people with integrity make mistakes and sometimes those mistakes include marriage. A character's integrity is NOT compremised by divorce. 
 
Look, if you are going to keep this balanced, a world with marriage also is a world with divorce.
doordoor123 is online on May 26, 2010 at 8:14 a.m.
I think heroes should get divorced if the character and situations call for it, but creators seems to create characters that are made for each other and dont want to break up a "legendary" relationship.
Proverbon May 26, 2010 at 8:14 a.m.
Unfortunately, modern comics still hold pretty backwards and inflexible views on sexual politics. Monogamy and heteronormativity are the kings of the Relationship in DC & Marvel.
 
For the sake of variety and reflection of the cosmopolitan world we live in, I think it would be good to see divorce represented in comics. Of course, it comes down to the individual characters. While divorce may have been an appropriate theme for Spider-Man, (as opposed to striking a deal with the devil to escape the consequences of his actions rather than taking responsiblity for them) it perhaps wouldn't be for a character like Superman. 
NXHon May 26, 2010 at 8:28 a.m.

Correct me if I'm wrong. 
But did Wolverine and Viper get married and then divorced?

dondaschon May 26, 2010 at 8:28 a.m.
@Pixelized
Sure married people can break up, it's called separation.
goldenkeyon May 26, 2010 at 8:49 a.m.

there are some marriages I just hate.  SM and MJ is one of them.

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