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How To Get Away With Making Batman XXX: A Porn Parody

Should the adult film industry be allowed to capitalize on brands like Batman?


When I first heard about Vivid Entertainment's plans to release parody films of some of my favorite comic book characters, I admit I was not surprised. In fact, I really can't believe they had not thought of making them sooner considering the number of f an-made superhero parody movies there are on Youtube. Having said that, I was a teeny bit uncomfortable with the idea of a Batman porn parody. I mean, it's Batman. He is iconic. No one wants to see that- well I am sure some of you do, but I'm really not interested.
While I don't blame DC Comics for avoiding the issue entirely when the topic first raided the internets, my question was not why, but how? How exactly was it legal for a company like Vivid to take the image of a recognizable, copywritten character and essentially profit from the brand without getting slapped by Warner Brothers with a lawsuit? We caught up with Vivid and asked their public relations representative a few questions regarding the legality of the film.
 
Comicvine: Can Vivid legally use the DC/WB trademarked name "Batman" in the title of the new movie in question?  If so, how/why is this possible?
VIVID ENTERTAINMENT: In a long line of case law, courts have routinely held that use of a title, such as the one at issue in Batman XXX: a Porn Parody, to be acceptable as long as the title has artistic relevance to the underlying work and it does not explicitly mislead the consumer as to the source or content of the work.
 No reasonable person would be misled about whether DC Comics is the sponsor of Vivid’s xxx parody movie. 
 
I can agree that since the term "parody" is utilized in the title of the film, it would be difficult for any "reasonable" individual to be misled that this film is anything other than a farce comedy of the classic Adam West Batman series; but making assumptions about what a reasonable person would think? Tsk tsk. Additionally there is the issue of the term "superhero's" and the legality of it's use by Vivid. The term is shared jointly by Marvel and DC Comics. According to Vivid's press release, however, the word is being used to describe a new genre of adult movies which will be released by Vivid. So how can Vivid legally use the word "Superhero"? After reading their explanation, I am still unsure.
 
Comicvine: According to Vivid's press release you cited the formation of "Vivid-Superhero." Aren't the rights over the term "superhero" jointly owned by DC and Marvel Comics?
Vivid Entertainment: The "Vivid Superhero" or “Vivid SuperXXXhero” imprint is being used to identify the movie Batman XXX: a Porn Parody along with several different planned parody movies.
The term “parody” may be described as when one artist, for comic effect or social commentary, closely imitates the style of another artist and in so doing creates a new artwork that makes ridiculous or comments on the style and expression of the original.
Batman XXX: a Porn Parody and the parody movies planned by Vivid are and will be transformative (different from the original), and do not and will not adversely impact the commercial value of the original work as they operate in completely different markets
No reasonable viewer would mistake the original series “Batman” as anything other than the target of a parody.
 
So essentially, they claim that they are protected in utilizing the term Superhero as a parody as well based on it being a parody. I will give it up to Vivid Entertainment for being creative, though. Realizing that the film market is being flooded with superhero films, and that these characters are extremely profitable, they found a way to capitalize on some extremely profitable brands. With the adult film industry on a rapid decline since audiences realized they could stream smut free of charge, it seems that Vivid has found a way to make some porn profit. To read more about the decline of the adult film industry, check out this breakdown from Forbes.
 
What do you guys think? Are you okay with seeing your favorite heroes in adult films? Should the adult film industry be allowed to capitalize on brands like Batman?
The_Martianon June 14, 2010 at 8:45 p.m.
"Robin, hold my Bat-Hose..."
Colton June 14, 2010 at 8:46 p.m.
buttman and throbin?
aZuLPiNoYon June 14, 2010 at 8:51 p.m.
@Colt said:
" buttman and throbin? "
SMH
The Cyan Lanternon June 14, 2010 at 8:51 p.m.
I'm more excited for the edited 30 minute version of the movie with no porn
Krakoaon June 14, 2010 at 8:54 p.m.
I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem.
NightFangon June 14, 2010 at 9:06 p.m.
@Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff. 
BiteMe-Fanboyon June 14, 2010 at 9:09 p.m.
@NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard
DH69on June 14, 2010 at 9:16 p.m.
lol im waitin for a fantastic four porno, it would work on so many levels
Silver2467on June 14, 2010 at 9:17 p.m.
I don't like it. BatMan is one of my all-time favorite superheroes. Personally, I wouldn't watch this regardless of whether I was okay with it or not, but I just don't like the idea of a character like Bats being parodied in a porn flick. To me, it just seems like a disparagement of the character. 
Decept-Oon June 14, 2010 at 9:18 p.m.

How can anyone claim ownership to the term "superhero"?  NOT defending Vivid, but superhero is a bit of a loose term, isn't it?   
 
@Babs:  I am impressed you had the wherewithwal and maturity to approach this company and ask these questions.    
 
Most parodies I've seen that have not been adult or XXX rated have been not-for-profit and done by fans, mainly shown on YouTube as we all know.   
 
This is different.  Vivid is clearly going to pursue profit and PERHAPS this may be a factor for Warner Bros. to pursue copyright, trademark, and legal infringement.  If nothing else, WB may be able to put this video on hold if they pursue a court case.  Question is, which is the bigger entity with more $ to spare?    
 
There is more I'd like to add but let's just point out Vivid is getting attention for this, whether it or not it is allowed to sell.  

FoxxFireArton June 14, 2010 at 9:20 p.m.
I'm really glad you wrote this, Babs. Like yourself, I wasn't surprised Vivid would want to make this, but I was really confused about how they could from a sheer legal standpoint.
 
It sounds like they are using the parody protection clause that was further enforced by "The People vs Larry Flint". No, I'm not talking about the movie. If I remember correctly. That decision was made about the use of a person's face. Has it been used involving copyrighted material? There was that whole trouble with Mark Millar's Nemesis when just the implication of Batman was used to describe the series.

This is something that caught my eye:

" According to Vivid's press release, however, the word is being used to describe a new genre of adult movies which will be released by Vivid. So how can Vivid legally use the word "Superhero"? After reading their explanation, I am still unsure. "

It's the use of the term "new genre". The person from Vivid you interviewed even went on to say, 

" The "Vivid Superhero" or “Vivid SuperXXXhero” imprint is being used to identify the movie Batman XXX: a Porn Parody along with several different planned parody movies. "

They must be pretty damn secure in their legal standing if they believe they can cover even more series. This has me wondering. What series may be next?

It all boils down to that freedom of speech isn't just for speech you agree with. If you don't want it. Don't buy it. This in no way could hurt DC as far as I see it.
 
Thanks for your hard work and taking the time to actually get some answers in place of just relying on their press release, Babs.
 
@DH69 said:

" lol im waitin for a fantastic four porno, it would work on so many levels "

Seeing how the Fantastic Four are a self described superhero "family". All those levels are more disturbing then the next.
NightFangon June 14, 2010 at 9:21 p.m.
@BiteMe-Fanboy said:
" @NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard "
             I'll do whatever it takes to keep my woman happy, dude.
BiteMe-Fanboyon June 14, 2010 at 9:22 p.m.
@NightFang said:

" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:

" @NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard "
             I'll do whatever it takes to keep my woman happy, dude. "
I know. and that's awesome. i
Krakoaon June 14, 2010 at 9:25 p.m.
@BiteMe-Fanboy said:
" @NightFang said:

" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:

" @NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard "
             I'll do whatever it takes to keep my woman happy, dude. "
I know. and that's awesome. i "
practice safe sex, wear a utility belt.
BiteMe-Fanboyon June 14, 2010 at 9:26 p.m.
@Krakoa said:

" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:

" @NightFang said:

" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:

" @NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard "
             I'll do whatever it takes to keep my woman happy, dude. "
I know. and that's awesome. i "
practice safe sex, wear a utility belt. "
bwahahaha
NightFangon June 14, 2010 at 9:50 p.m.
@Krakoa said:
" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:
" @NightFang said:

" @BiteMe-Fanboy said:

" @NightFang said:
" @Krakoa said:
"I don't see the harm in it. I personally, wouldn't want to watch it, but again, I don't see a problem. "
             I agreed but I'll watch it with my girlfriend because she into this kinda stuff.  "
.....bastard "
             I'll do whatever it takes to keep my woman happy, dude. "
I know. and that's awesome. i "
practice safe sex, wear a utility belt. "
             We always do, lol.
EisforExtinctionon June 14, 2010 at 10:03 p.m.
@The Cyan Lantern said:
" I'm more excited for the edited 30 minute version of the movie with no porn "
Prepare yourself for 30 minutes of bad porn star acting. You like good comedic timing? Too bad.
the_orange_crushon June 14, 2010 at 10:09 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt: there actually will be a line of superhero porn parodies....in fact quite a few. i heard this on my local radio show a couple of weeks ago. if i recall, some of the upcoming parodies include: hulk, superman, spider-man (oh boy, here come the web shooter jokes), wonder woman, and captain america.
 
actually, i found an article as well:
 http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/05/10/superhero-porn-vivid/
 
Robotmanon June 14, 2010 at 10:18 p.m.

I'm waiting for Birds of Prey XXX. ; )

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