@CATMANEXE said:
"@PrinceIMC: Thor used to be with the Avengers. a change would be if he joined a team he hadnt. he's also been teamed up with them all year now off and on. same with Clint. change was him in the Ronin costume. the same is him in the Hawkeye one. and either way he's been there. many of the official members have already been declared actually, theres a new thread here about this everyday. nothing has changed.New Avengers is now titled Avengers, Luke is switched out for Thor, and Iron man is back on board.sorry, im not with you here. this is the same stuff ive been reading since New Avengers #1. i already know about there new status, which is the same as their status before Dark Reign (1 year ago). Avenegrs Initiative is now titled differently, and stars the same characters. the New Avengers team is alreadbeing filled by memebers of the same New Avengers team that was there in the first place. the books havent been focusing on "random" characters, theyve been focusing on these same ones.there hasnt been not only a big change, there just hasnt been any. marvel is hyping this to sell books.nothing more, nothing less. are you even reading these books? "
Thor hasn't been with the Avengers since Disassembled which was what 7 years ago? He's been seen with Steve and Tony but not the Avengers. Clint Barton hasn't been Hawkeye since Disassembled which again was 7 years ago. He's been there yes but it is a change to him to change back to his previous identity. Change doesn't just mean no previous Avengers and all new members who haven't been Avengers before. Tony's been on the run since Osborn took over, Cap's been dead, Hank Pym's been running his team of Avengers (none of whom have been announced as Avengers in the heroic age that I've seen). How do you know that its going to be the same just because it has the same characters? The X-Men are very different since they moved to California though they had the same members.
For the past few years they've been fighting amongst themselves, aliens and Osborn's forces. After Seige that isn't going to be the case, they get to be heroes again. I didnt say random characters I said they've been running around randomly, how many headquarters have they had? They're on the run. That's going to change. An Avengers roster is around 7 or 8 members, for each team they've announced 5 right? They still haven't said who the Secret Avengers are and I don't remember anything official about who's going to be in the Avengers Academy, where it'll be, who's in charge other than theories. It seems the main Avengers are going to go back to a pre-Disassembled state, which may not be a huge change over the whole of Avengers history but is a change since the past few years.
I guess I'm just seeing how things can be different and you're just seeing what apparently isn't changing.
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