King Namor

#1 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

What is next for the prince of the seven seas? Will he remain an "X-men"? Will he make a comeback? I'm asking for guesses and facts!

I know nothing.

#2 Posted by allthatsgeek (127 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm hoping for a Black Panther claw through the chest.

Namor is a punk and has it coming.

#3 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

Namor gets too much crap on this sight, yes he's an arrogant a$$hole but guess what that's what he's been since his first appearance. He has the most consistent personality in the history of the Marvel Universe. He's gone toe to toe with Marvel's biggest badasses and has won more than he's lost. And despite his arrogance he's treated Sue Storm with more respect than her husband (Marvel's actual biggest douche) ever has.

#4 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that's possible... He's not a punk he's a king. He was a king with the Phoenix force, he did what he wanted because he can. That's what kings typically do. Go on rampages fueled by the mighty vagina.

#5 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@allthatsgeek said:

I'm hoping for a Black Panther claw through the chest.

Namor is a punk and has it coming.

Damn, forgot about his punk rock obsession. That Namor McKenzie!

@joshmightbe said:

Namor gets too much crap on this sight, yes he's an arrogant a$$hole but guess what that's what he's been since his first appearance.

Could not agree more. Namor's awesome.

#6 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@allthatsgeek: If Namor's a punk then Wolverine and Iron Man are straight up b**ches since he's kicked both their asses.

#7 Posted by allthatsgeek (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: I would not argue that point.

#8 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@allthatsgeek: Just saying yea he's a jerk but he does a pretty good job of backing up his mouth.

#9 Posted by God_Spawn (37750 posts) - - Show Bio

I've grown to somewhat like Namor over the past year. I wouldn't care if he died after AvX but I wouldn't mind him hanging around either. I don't know what is next for him. He flooded an entire city while under the PF influence and I'll wait to see what happens after.

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#10 Posted by One_Eye (783 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: @joshmightbe: @allthatsgeek: I'll make the same argument for Namor that I do for Cyclops with he, like the rest of the Phoenix Five were all possessed and should be absolved ultimately.

#11 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he deserves his own series. And a little more respect. He's one of marvels oldest characters and he's never changed his ways. He's always looking out for himself or his kingdom I like that about him the most. One thing I always say is "awh namor you dawg!!" when he punched stark in illuminati. when he puts the Mac on sue and when he banged that under water queen fish thing. And when he attacked an entire kingdom. You dawg!

#12 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@One_Eye: I wasn't speaking against Namor, I love the fact that he's an unapologetic asshole. In a room full of heroes trying to convince others of the greater good he's the guy that dares people to stop him. While his fault in AVX is debatable I will always love the fact that he's a character never afraid to say exactly whats on his mind and literally just doesn't give a f**k what anyone thinks of him.

#13 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: That's not the first time he's flooded a city, hell his first appearance had him considering it.

#14 Posted by God_Spawn (37750 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: And with AvX disregarding a bunch of things, it really doesn't matter. What matters going forward is what just happened and that is something that will probably be brought to attention regarding his future.

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#15 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Namor has always been the problem child or the Marvel hero community, he's been a threat just as often as he's helped out. He does what is best for himself and Atlantis above all else sometimes it just happens to coincide with the side the heroes are fighting on. Also he has full diplomatic immunity so he'll probably get off scott free

#16 Posted by God_Spawn (37750 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: I forgot about the diplomatic immunity but the rest I know and I don't see the point in bringing it up? It has nothing to do with my point.

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#17 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I got your point just saying that its not like Namor was the most trusted guy by anyone before this so AVX probably isn't going to change how he's currently regarded by the other heroes all that much.

#18 Posted by God_Spawn (37750 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Fair enough.

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#19 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Its the same with Hulk after World War Hulk, everyone acted like it was a huge shift in how people saw him but when you look at his history its pretty much the same as its always been.

#20 Posted by The Stegman (24045 posts) - - Show Bio


I'm hoping for a Black Panther claw through the chest.

Namor is a punk and has it coming.

This, God I hate him.
#21 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

love Namor and Aquaman

continue to be himself

Marvel likes events, world war atlantean

water is most of the world

living at that pressure makes them super strong and nearly indestructible

unless its still destroyed that would work for marvel or dc

#22 Posted by TDK_1997 (14718 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like him,so I don't care about him.

#23 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I was just asking what people think is next for him not who likes him guys! Jeez

#24 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe from here on (until "NOW" of course) they will switch around his character after even he sees how much of a pheonix five d-bag he was and how many people he hurt. maybe Marvel will add more depth to his character and make him more than just the angry fish guy that comes out of the water to make the land-walkers pay every few months. I hope

#25 Posted by allthatsgeek (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: *internet high five*

#26 Posted by Rickbarry (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually like Namor. There was a time that I didn't care for the guy in the slightest, but I like his cock demeanor. Plus someone knocks him on his rear every now and then which makes for some entertaining dialogue.

#27 Posted by daredevilfan777 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

@allthatsgeek said:

I'm hoping for a Black Panther claw through the chest.

Namor is a punk and has it coming.

yes!

#28 Edited by Dernman (14975 posts) - - Show Bio

I think a good story can be told starting with him waking up in a Wakandan jail cell designed for him. 
Shouldn't this be in the Namor forum?

#29 Posted by Rheged (620 posts) - - Show Bio
@Imperius_Rex said:

What is next for the prince of the seven seas? Will he remain an "X-men"? Will he make a comeback? I'm asking for guesses and facts!

I know nothing.

Since we don't know what happened to him after he lost the PF, or where he is now, it's hard to say.  If, as it looks, the X-Men abandoned him and the Atlanteans in Wakanda, I doubt he'll continue his alliance with them.  If there was some sort of off panel support, and Namor continues the alliance, I can see him with the remnants of the Extinction Team or whoever is still fighting against assimilation with the Avengers.  Though, I'm beginning to wonder if he'll be on Hickman's New Avengers, after all is said and done.
 
What I'd LOVE to see, is Namor getting an ongoing or mini-series, that explores the magical side of the character and Atlantis, with some epic Game of Thrones political maneuverings centered around Atlantis and Lemuria and Latveria, and perhaps even Wakanda, once they rebuild.

What will probably happen, however, is Marvel will job him out again, to prop up Black Panther. :(
 
@allthatsgeek said:

I'm hoping for a Black Panther claw through the chest.

Namor is a punk and has it coming.


Namor is the antithesis of a punk.  He tells it like it is, takes no crap from anyone, and backs up anything he says.  He's a monarch and a force of nature; a champion of his god and a hero to his people; a lover of women and a warrior of men.   He's so full of awesome, of course haterz are gonna hate. ;p
 
@SupremeHyperion said:

maybe from here on (until "NOW" of course) they will switch around his character after even he sees how much of a pheonix five d-bag he was and how many people he hurt. maybe Marvel will add more depth to his character and make him more than just the angry fish guy that comes out of the water to make the land-walkers pay every few months. I hope

 What have you read of Namor?  Because if you've read any of his ongoings or mini-series, you'd know, there's plenty of depth to the character.  The characterization is strong enough that he's survived over 70 years with it intact.  It's just as a guest star or on a team book, you rarely see anything but the plot device the writer needs.  He was the original poster child for alienation and dealt with all the hated and feared stuff the X-Men are known for, looong before they were created.  He's dealt with race and his biracial status on panel, repeatedly.  He's had many a tragic romance, and betrayals and friendships.  He's more unpredictable and flexible than most other Marvel characters -- name anyone else that could have been on both the Illuminati and the Cabal?  Or been an ally of both Dr. Doom and the Fantastic Four?
#30 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rheged: Namor has a lot of the same problems Superman does, one being that many people who've never actually read the character in his own book, or even paid any attention to him when he wasn't directly dealing with a character they like come in knowing practically nothing about the character and decide he sucks. You can spot the people who don't know anything easily tho, I regularly hear people calling him an Aquaman rip off, despite the fact that he appeared 2 years before him and the 2 characters also possess several powers that the other doesn't. One question I have, how come Wolverine gets a pass for being an unapologetic asshat but Namor gets crap for being arrogant. Namor is a king, he was raised to think he was superior what's Wolverine's excuse?

#31 Posted by Rheged (620 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@Rheged: Namor has a lot of the same problems Superman does, one being that many people who've never actually read the character in his own book, or even paid any attention to him when he wasn't directly dealing with a character they like come in knowing practically nothing about the character and decide he sucks. You can spot the people who don't know anything easily tho, I regularly hear people calling him an Aquaman rip off, despite the fact that he appeared 2 years before him and the 2 characters also possess several powers that the other doesn't. One question I have, how come Wolverine gets a pass for being an unapologetic asshat but Namor gets crap for being arrogant. Namor is a king, he was raised to think he was superior what's Wolverine's excuse?

Oh, I agree.  And there's any number of reasons to NOT like Namor.  But to complain he has no depth of characterization?  The fact that he can stride the line between villain and hero puts him two jumps ahead in characterization over most others.  In fact, I'd argue, many people that don't like Namor, don't like him because he's not some straight arrow, do-gooder -- they don't like the depth of characterization.
 
I always LOL at people accusing Namor of arrogance, when you have folks like Reed Richards and Tony Stark around, arrogantly thinking they can solve everything without any consequences.  Wolverine gets a pass, I think, because his 'excuse' is that he's a victim.  He's a victim of amnesia and psychosis.    Whereas Namor owns his confidence (which some call arrogance) and doesn't bother with false humility.  He's awesome.  He knows it.  Everyone else knows it.  Why should he pretend otherwise?  It's just in our modern society, humility is seen as a virtue, even if you have to lie about it. ;p   
 
And also, many readers forget, Namor IS the absolute monarch of a foreign culture.  He's the living symbol of Atlantis.  He's making life and death decisions every day about the people he rules.  He has to inspire them, especially during troubled times.  And he's their best known celebrity.  All of that requires a larger than life personality, not some self-effacing introvert.
#32 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rheged: I like to describe Namor as the first Marvel Anti-Hero, and he was one of the first Super Heroes to have moral ambiguity. He changed from threat to hero and back again with every story arc at a time when most Super heroes were dealing in black and white good vs bad.

#33 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

I see namor kicking much a-- in the future, and perhaps going back to his loner days!

#34 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Man you last 3 people who posted are pretty effin inspirational. My friends thought I wAs weird because while they claimed spider man bat man and wolverine while I adored the good king I know people think. Oh namor? He's a d-bag. But he's such multicolored character there's more sides to him than I've seen anywhere else. Even in his most recent ongoing it shows his struggles with pride and insecurity in namor goes to hell. Honestly he's a half human mutant king of atlantis. The dudes under pressure he runs a kingdom and still finds time to crack skulls and lay down some serious Pipe. Its pretty disrespectful IMO for namor marvels first mutant and one of their first characters to not have his own ongoing. That's what he needs a well written ongoing series with struggles of kingship and underwater affairs that's a whole universe down there marvel hasn't really used as much as I would like. He needs plenty of guest appearances and cut him in to some major story arcs. Anyone who hates namor hasn't read namor enough I've spent my life sampling many heroes and teams. But no one really compares to namor. Maybe it's time for him to get a wife too! And a kid!

#35 Posted by Lapsus (26 posts) - - Show Bio

If Marvel goint to avoid the problem with Wakanda, bad thing.

I´m getting bored of superheroes being jerk and cocky, running lives in the process and then, EVERYTHING is forget. Then, a random villain appears and all of them are buddies again.

Like Iron Man or even cap.

pffff

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