Atheist!!

#1 Posted by spider2dfly (230 posts) - - Show Bio

He is the only guy that I know who is an Atheist(a person who doesn't believe in any supreme being, namely a god).

I'm not into DC, but I like him, because I'm also an Atheist..

Who else think that he is a cool hero?

#2 Posted by lordraiden (7013 posts) - - Show Bio

spider2dfly says:

"He is the only guy that I know who is an Atheist(a person who doesn't believe in any supreme being, namely a god). I'm not into DC, but I like him, because I'm also an Atheist.. Who else think that he is a cool hero?"

I think he's awsome, but it has nothing to do with his beliefes!

#3 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

#4 Posted by spider2dfly (230 posts) - - Show Bio

That's the thing about Mr. Terrific, he knows that the world is full of mysticism, gods spirits and whatever. Yet he finds a "logical explanation" in the paranormal. That why he is the 3rd smartest..

#5 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is also supposed to ba atheist, Reed Richards and Tony Stark probably are too. It's sort of a left wing bias in comics that to be truely intelligent you have to be an atheist, even if you live in a universe populated by Norse gods and angelic beings.
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#6 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Atheism is stupidity in the superhero universe. Agnosticism? Understandable? Being a stone-cold atheist?! C'mon, jackhole, don't be a douche.

#7 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, I doubt any of them would sign up for the clergy. But getting a religion doesn't mean you have to go from atheism to pope.

#8 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder what Punisher is.

#9 Posted by lordraiden (7013 posts) - - Show Bio

Gottheit says:

"I wonder what Punisher is."

A psychotic inhuman who's lost touch with humanity?

#10 Posted by Vrakmul (23489 posts) - - Show Bio

I say all characters should be A. Athiests. B. Agonists or best of all. C great old one worshippers.

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#11 Posted by Vlad Tepes Dracula (2208 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"I don't understand this...Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lolM"

but he hasnt worked with god himself has he?

#12 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Cosmic Sentinel says:

"Batman is also supposed to ba atheist"

He's depicted as agnostic, most of the time. And, sometimes, he's depicted as religious, depending on the writer.

#13 Posted by No_Name_ (17403 posts) - - Show Bio

Gottheit says:

"I wonder what Punisher is."

Thats so weird, I was reading through the thread and asked myself the exact same question.

#14 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Punisher is a man without faith. He's possibly atheist. Look at the way he carries himself and the impact his family's death has had on him.

#15 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"I don't understand this... Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity... Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol M"

Exactly.

#16 Posted by spider2dfly (230 posts) - - Show Bio

You know what I think, all of them are atheist. And the only time they become religious is when someone is gonna get married, someone died, or someone had an epiphany..

#17 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr.Terrific is one of the best,who cares what he does or doesn't believe in

#18 Posted by TheDrifter (26555 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
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I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

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I agree with everything you said.
#19 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
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I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

"
and i thought he was supposed to be the third smartest man on the planet...
#20 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
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I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

"

that makes sense,but still doesn't effect what i think of him
#21 Posted by The_Absolute (892 posts) - - Show Bio

I think in the realm of comics, there's no such thing as faith or miracles in the biblical sense. This is how Atheism is contrasted for Believers of a particular faith. Mr. T (wow! No relation?) doesn't believe that there is a Higher Power who will just make the impossible, improbable and illogical happen just because someone somewhere asked him, her or it to, but that there is a logical reason, a scientific method, and a quantifiable purpose to such intervention. And if that weren't true in comics then every story could end with God intervened and saved the day.

So you can't view Atheism in comics in the same way you would in real life because in comics true Faith is impossible since it's all fiction and make believe.

The funny thing is that in the real world God works precisely within a logical reason, using scientific method, and having a quantifiable purpose - that's why the God I believe in is a God of the science of truth, love, light and life.

Thank you. (^_^) (-_-) (^_^) ::steps down from his pulpit and retakes his seat::

#22 Posted by Magnus/Murdock (428 posts) - - Show Bio
Cosmic Sentinel said:
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Batman is also supposed to ba atheist, Reed Richards and Tony Stark probably are too. It's sort of a left wing bias in comics that to be truely intelligent you have to be an atheist, even if you live in a universe populated by Norse gods and angelic beings.
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Booster Gold, Quasar, Hank Pym, Mystique, and Ms.Marvel are  atheist.
#23 Posted by Triumphant (2316 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him a lot but only because he's black, cool suit, and a genius

#24 Posted by RioBravo (61 posts) - - Show Bio
Magnus/Murdock said:
"Cosmic Sentinel said:
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Batman is also supposed to ba atheist, Reed Richards and Tony Stark probably are too. It's sort of a left wing bias in comics that to be truely intelligent you have to be an atheist, even if you live in a universe populated by Norse gods and angelic beings.
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Booster Gold, Quasar, Hank Pym, Mystique, and Ms.Marvel are  atheist."

I don't think Ms. Marvel is.  In her current series she's mentioned praying and God.  It is not a central part of her character as it is with other heroes (Daredevil, Nightcrawler), but I've never seen anything that says Ms. Marvel is an atheist.

#25 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio
Gottheit said:

I wonder what Punisher is


Grab yourself a copy of "What if..." #44 (second series).  This story, which is spun from Spiderman ridding himself of the symbiote costume in a Catholic belltower, has Frank Castle behaving in a surprisingly faithful manner.  Castle becomes the recipient of Venom instead of Brock.
#26 Posted by Erik (32286 posts) - - Show Bio
Frank is catholic. 
#27 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
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I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

"
I was just thinking that exact same thing when I saw the title of the thread.
#28 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

I think atheism in comics is something like Lucifer (of The Sandman)...I mean he knows God exists, heck, he's God's son, so I sure hope he does :P

but that doesn't mean he accepts him, Yahweh is just another character in the comic

than there's Preacher, a whole different story altogether

but I think in the end, all those religious figures are just meant to be characters, not religious figures, therefore you can still be "atheist" in the comic book world...your not saying you don't believe in supreme beings (if that was the case Mr. T would be the third dumbest idiot in the world), your simply saying you don't believe you owe them anything

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#29 Posted by mrmisanthrope (103 posts) - - Show Bio
@spider2dfly said:
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You know what I think, all of them are atheist. And the only time they become religious is when someone is gonna get married, someone died, or someone had an epiphany..

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I know this is an old post, but I was having a debate about religion and somehow stumbled onto this thread googling. (Incidentally if anyone has that image where Mr Terrific is being asked how he can be an atheist in the comic, I'm looking for it.)
 
I'm an atheist, for the record, but this statement you've made here doesn't make any sense.
 
At the start of the thread you said you didn't like DC, but you liked Mr Terrific because he's an atheist. I don't like that kind of thinking, because that treats atheism as a religion, as if it were a set of beliefs. It's not. It's one single belief. There are conservative atheists, and liberal atheists. It's simply believing there's no god.
 
My problem though is, if the reason you think Mr Terrific is cool is because he's an atheist, how can you not like all the others when you've stated you think they're all atheists too?
 
In any event,in real life it's logical to be an atheist, in comic books where you know for a fact Thor and Hercules and the Judeo-Christian god and all related characters really exist, it's kind of silly to claim to be an atheist. You don't have to observe any faith, but you can't just say "That guy over there with the hammer and the helmet with the wings on it calling down thunder? Yeah, he's not real."
#30 Posted by PowerHerc (83261 posts) - - Show Bio
@Methos said:
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I don't understand this...

Mr. Terrific is an atheist, with no belief in god, even though he has personally worked alongside The Specter, the right hand of God, and Zauriel, a member of The Host (An Angel) and have actually had proof of God existing several times in DC continuity...

Why be an atheist with that much proof, it's like me saying i don't believe in electricity while working on my computer lol

M

"

Good points.
#31 Posted by sirderpity (39 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic Sentinel: well i still get called an immoral satan worshiper for being an atheist so it aint working also am i the only one who doesnt understand that insult we dont belive in satan

#32 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Terrific is cool. I prefer his old black-jacket look, but he's always been shown to be a hyper-intelligent badass.

As for the matter of atheism, I don't really care either way what religion comic-characters believe in. In my opinion, it doesn't matter because for the comic universe - and I realize this is going to sound very meta - the one true God is the creative team. So I don't feel an obligation for any character to belong to any denomination.

That being said, I'd get annoyed by out-of-character religion. Darkseid should never be portrayed as a devout Buddhist, for instance (Though that would be kind of funny).

#33 Posted by SC (12961 posts) - - Show Bio

I think some people in this thread are confused. In real life many real things have claimed to be a god. I can confirm these real things are real, but confirming they are real does not mean confirming their claim is real. Then again many real people have made claims of being a god and have actually met some of the traditional definitions and criteria of being a god,like being worshipped by other people. So having and working with a clear cut definition and criteria as to the type of god actually goes a long way for making sense of things. A similar process works as well in fiction. Sure in fiction you can have beings that met certain criteria of godhood in ways no current real life humans can, but that doesn't mean that they are meeting the definition of the god that the fictional atheist lacks belief in. In this sense you can even have an atheist character refer to another character as a god without betraying their belief or lack of belief in gods, because words can obviously have more than one meaning.

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#34 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fluffydaninja said:

@Cosmic Sentinel: well i still get called an immoral satan worshiper for being an atheist so it aint working also am i the only one who doesnt understand that insult we dont belive in satan

Well you did just resurrect a long dead thread to a zombie life to reply to comments I made nearly 5 years ago, which seems pretty Satanic ;)

#35 Posted by plastickid (15 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_sentinel: That's a pretty bigoted don't you think. That's pretty much the opposite of left wing. You're suppose to be more "accepting" and such. Not all smart people are atheist. Not every atheist is a smart person.

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