19th Century scientist Nathaniel Essex was genetically mutated by the "first" mutant, Apocalypse, who shared his philosophy of Social Darwinism. Becoming the immortal Mr. Sinister, he is perhaps the greatest geneticist in the world; capable of cloning, creating, enhancing, and controlling mutant abilities.
According to comics and the animated series, Mr. Sinister was never born a mutant, but gained powers by Apocalypse or experimented himself. So that makes Sinister a mutant?
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Posted by Edamame
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@The Impersonator said:
" According to comics and the animated series, Mr. Sinister was never born a mutant, but gained powers by Apocalypse and experimented himself. So that makes Sinister a mutant? "
@SoA: Mutant is someone who has his powers because his was born with an x-gene. Mutates on the other hand are normal humans who gained their powers later in life through accidents, experimentation, genetic engineering etc.
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@SoA said:
" @Edamame: can you explain the difference between the two? i always thought the two were interchangable "
@ComicMan24 said:
" @SoA: Mutant is someone who has his powers because his was born with an x-gene. Mutates on the other hand are normal humans who gained their powers later in life through accidents, experimentation, genetic engineering etc. "
Omega Red was born as a mutant....when he matured his deathspore virus activated and everybody started dieing around him...... He decided to be a serial killer. Eventually he was caught by Banshee when Sean was working for the Interpol...... "Somehow" he ended up in weapon X program where they outfitted him with carbonadium coils to control his deathspore virus....
@RavenDark: Was Red also a child rapist? Also, he only had a death factor, as opposed to Logan's healing factor. I am not aware of this deathspore virus. Red never joined the Weapon X Program. He worked for the Russians only and was a member of The Hand, I believe.
@Edamame: No....your right the KGB gave him his coils(I mixed this one with an alternative version)....and death-spore is actually his Death Factor (Also mixed my realities..) About being the child-r., I do not remember...I remember however how Banishee was disgusted in the way that Arkady had a perverse joy in killing innocents.....
Pretty much. He was not born a mutant, and become what he is with the help of Apocalypse once he entered his life. A mutant is someone born with a mutant gene from homo sapien, in my opinion, Not genetic alteration.
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@Edamame: right, i think every secret government facility that specializes in augmenting powers in mutants and non mutants is weapon x. sorry about the typo from before lol
" Apocalypse activated Sinister's dormant X-gene the same way he did to Exodus. "
Apoc. did not give Sinister all of his powers. Sinister was just a regular human scientist until he got some of the powers from Apoc and after he experimented on himself to add powers.
@RavenDark said:
" .I remember however how Banishee was disgusted in the way that Arkady had a perverse joy in killing innocents..... "
Venom would hate Red then. LOL.
@RavenDark said:
" @Edamame: No....your right the KGB gave him his coils(I mixed this one with an alternative version)....and death-spore is actually his Death Factor (Also mixed my realities..) About being the child-r., I do not remember...I remember however how Banishee was disgusted in the way that Arkady had a perverse joy in killing innocents..... "
I wonder how far into his body the Carbonadium tentacles go. Just up into his arms? And is the Carbonadium armor stuck onto him?
@The Dude. said:
" @courtney12490 said:
" No, it makes him a mutate. "
Pretty much. He was not born a mutant, and become what he is with the help of Apocalypse once he entered his life. A mutant is someone born with a mutant gene from homo sapien, in my opinion, Not genetic alteration. "
" @Edamame: No....your right the KGB gave him his coils(I mixed this one with an alternative version)....and death-spore is actually his Death Factor (Also mixed my realities..) About being the child-r., I do not remember...I remember however how Banishee was disgusted in the way that Arkady had a perverse joy in killing innocents..... "
I wonder how far into his body the Carbonadium tentacles go. Just up into his arms? And is the Carbonadium armor stuck onto him?
I think that his tentacles are the only fixed parts permanently embedded into his body....He fought Wolverine and Colossus almost naked.... The range of those coils is pretty impressive, they are telescopic in behavior, which more or less explains its compact form...... The carbonadium is slowly killing him though, but like Logan, his Death Factor keeps him alive....(Unless he cured himself with carbonadium synthesizer)
@Edamame: You're right. Over the past century or so, Sinister mutated himself even further by splicing the genes of other mutants into his system, but he is still a mutant first and foremost. His x-gene was activated by Apocalypse, but does that make him less of a mutant?
" @Edamame: No....your right the KGB gave him his coils(I mixed this one with an alternative version)....and death-spore is actually his Death Factor (Also mixed my realities..) About being the child-r., I do not remember...I remember however how Banishee was disgusted in the way that Arkady had a perverse joy in killing innocents..... "
I wonder how far into his body the Carbonadium tentacles go. Just up into his arms? And is the Carbonadium armor stuck onto him?
I think that his tentacles are the only fixed parts permanently embedded into his body....He fought Wolverine and Colossus almost naked.... The range of those coils is pretty impressive, they are telescopic in behavior, which more or less explains its compact form...... The carbonadium is slowly killing him though, but like Logan, his Death Factor keeps him alive....(Unless he cured himself with carbonadium synthesizer)
Omega Red Do you think that Exodus is a mutate? "
LOL at Red fighting Colossus and Wolverine naked. Red looks kind of devilish in that scan. LOL. Exodus is a mutant, not a mutate.
Yes. That is what confuses me. Red has both a death factor (death spores) and a healing factor. That is like putting freezing cold with scorching heat. No wonder why Red is insane.
How often does he have to use the Carbonadium synthesizer? Is the Carbonadium synthesizer like an extra boost to his healing factor to combat the poisons emitted by the Carbonadium?
" @Edamame: You're right. Over the past century or so, Sinister mutated himself even further by splicing the genes of other mutants into his system, but he is still a mutant first and foremost. His x-gene was activated by Apocalypse, but does that make him less of a mutant? "
No. Sinister is not a mutant. He was a human geneticist and became a mutate through aforementioned methods and processes. I am not sure why you think that Sinister is a mutant. Are you thinking about the mutant named Exodus whose powers Apocalypse activated?
@Edamame: Omega Red has a healing factor like Scalphunter....That means "back from the dead" healing factor... His healing factor, strength, speed and durability is also boosted to superior levels when his actively killing some one with his Death Factor..... When they first put carbonadium into his body it was slowly killing him...The only way to stop this was for him to kill people in a regular time intervals with his death factor to boost his healing factor...Essentially he HAD to kill people to survive.... Omega Red was searching for the carbonadium synthesizer either to remove the carbonadium from his body or to purify it of the toxic impurities it had.....
" @Edamame: His healing factor, strength, speed and durability is also boosted to superior levels when his actively killing some one with his Death Factor.....
You mean Red had to use that life force absorption ability of his to accomplish such....
" @Edamame: You're right. Over the past century or so, Sinister mutated himself even further by splicing the genes of other mutants into his system, but he is still a mutant first and foremost. His x-gene was activated by Apocalypse, but does that make him less of a mutant? "
No. Sinister is not a mutant. He was a human geneticist and became a mutate through aforementioned methods and processes. I am not sure why you think that Sinister is a mutant. Are you thinking about the mutant named Exodus whose powers Apocalypse activated? "
No, I'm, thinking about Sinister. Read The Futher Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix. Apocalypse activated sinister's dormant X-gene and same way he did Exodus. Read and learn.
" @Edamame: You're right. Over the past century or so, Sinister mutated himself even further by splicing the genes of other mutants into his system, but he is still a mutant first and foremost. His x-gene was activated by Apocalypse, but does that make him less of a mutant? "
No. Sinister is not a mutant. He was a human geneticist and became a mutate through aforementioned methods and processes. I am not sure why you think that Sinister is a mutant. Are you thinking about the mutant named Exodus whose powers Apocalypse activated? "
No, I'm, thinking about Sinister. Read The Futher Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix. Apocalypse activated sinister's dormant X-gene and same way he did Exodus. Read and learn. "
Do you have scans? I don't think that that makes him a mutant.
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