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    Character » Mr. Fantastic appears in 6884 issues.

    Reed Richards, also known as Mr. Fantastic, is the leader of the Fantastic Four. He can stretch his body to great distances due to his exposure to cosmic rays while in space. He is also considered to be one of the smartest men alive, using his brain to explore alternate dimensions and save the world alongside his family from science-based threats.

    Is Batman actually smarter than Mr. Fantastic?

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    #1  Edited By D-Deadpool

    I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?

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    #2  Edited By Resonate

    Warlock360 says:

    "Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards"

    that's definite

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    #3  Edited By warlock360

    Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards

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    #4  Edited By BDog23

    Hes a detective not a scientist...

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    #5  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    That's because fanboys always vote for their fav.

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    #6  Edited By D-Deadpool

    I agree, but have you seen the intellect list, amazingly Reed is second! Batman is rich but he's not smarter than the Mr. Fantastic, thats a fact.

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    #7  Edited By DragonGateAcer

    yeah reed is much smarter

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    #8  Edited By POHOCOM

    D-Deadpool says:

    "I agree, but have you seen the intellect list, amazingly Reed is second! Batman is rich but he's not smarter than the Mr. Fantastic, thats a fact."

    Batman is not even near the top 10.

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    #9  Edited By IcePrince_X

    what kind of intelligence are we looking at?

    There are 11 types of Intelligence according to Howard Gardner: Spatial, Bodily-Kinethics, Naturalistic, Interpersonal, Intrapersonal, Verbal-Linguistic,Logical-Mathematical, Musical, Existential, Spiritual and Moral.

    based on their personalities, Dr. Reed has more of the 11 than Batman. So my bet is Dr. Reed.

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    #10  Edited By T.J. Magnum

    D-Deadpool says:

    "I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?"

    i already brought this up before,your new, i'll let it slide

    the ranks are fan base so if you don't like it, vote

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    #11  Edited By Drizzt

    D-Deadpool says:

    "I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?"

    The power rankings here are more like a popularity contest than actual rankings. You could vote enough and make Storm the smartest and best overall IF you wanted to. People do it all the time. Thats why Storm is almsot number one on the overall list. Fanboys/girls just vote for thier fav instead of who actually would win, and they vote over and over and over again.

    lol

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    #12  Edited By Barry Flash

    YES

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    #13  Edited By Pania

    I think the powers/abilities rankings have become completely corrupted by fanboyism to the point they are meaningless. I stopped paying attention to them months ago.
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    Im a big batman fan but i think reed is way smarter 

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    #15  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Batman maybe more knowledgable than Reed in some areas but he's not as smart as Reed.I honestly don't even think he's smarter than Tony Stark.

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    #16  Edited By KnightlyVengence

    What about street smart? I mean after all this time I think Batman has probably earned his Ph. D. in street degree. I think he's smart in that way, but yeah not so much in the book smart category compared to Reed.

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    #17  Edited By Mighty Thorion

    Their expertise is in different fields -Batman is the greater detective, Reed is the greater scientist.

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    #18  Edited By KnightlyVengence
    Mighty Thorion said:
    "Their expertise is in different fields -Batman is the greater detective, Reed is the greater scientist."
    I'm cool with that... ;)

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    #19  Edited By Methos

    it's a completely different type of IQ here...

    while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

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    #20  Edited By warlock360
    Methos said:
    "it's a completely different type of IQ here...

    while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

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    #21  Edited By Methos

    why do people keep quoting me without agreeing or disagreeing with what i said?

    it's just a waste of a post lol

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    #22  Edited By warlock360

    quoting someone without answering is my way of saying i agree or would of said the same.

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    #23  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel
    Voidheart said:
    "quoting someone without answering is my way of saying i agree or would of said the same.
    "

    You could just +1 them.
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    #24  Edited By speedlgt
    Methos said:
    "it's a completely different type of IQ here...

    while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

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    that being said Batman would outsmart both terrific and fantastic in situations that would matter. I would Place Batman higher only  because of that
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    #26  Edited By zee crusher

    Yeah static and I argued this way way back in the day lol. Reed is smarter though. Batman only has him in one field thats being a detective. Even though I think reed won't have to much of a problem solving a mystery. He found out how to beat gladiator on there first occasion.

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    #27  Edited By lionel hunter

    i believe this disscision mainly revolves around who's smarter scientifically  which that would be reed because he is a scientist

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    #28  Edited By speedlgt
    aztek the lost said:
    "speedlgt said:
    "Methos said:
    "it's a completely different type of IQ here...

    while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

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    that being said Batman would outsmart both terrific and fantastic in situations that would matter. I would Place Batman higher only  because of that
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    but that doesn't mean his smarter, his skills are just more useful in real-life situations but then again, Reed doesn't exist in a world of real-life situations
    "
    I agree with this, IMO in any situation that would matter like real world stuff Batman is more useful. Basically batman is more useful all around. he may not be "smarter" but hes well better, and kinda of smarter in more important areas. Like the skrulls, Batman would not know how the skrulls hid like reed was able to figure out. But Batman would not have gotten GOT like reed did. Bats would have had his guard up and had a plan to deal with the heros who he tought would be skrulls. Reed was more like amazed by the science of how they did it.  Also batman would not have do that crazy ass plan the Stark and the others tried, which brought the war to start with.
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    #29  Edited By Question08

    While I don't think Batman is as good a physicist as Fantastic, you have to take into account Bat's expertise in several other areas of science.  If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first injustice on the comicvine boards; like Batman above Mister Miracle on the escape artists page, and isn't Plastic Man more stretchy than Fantastic?

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    #30  Edited By Jacky

    I've always been under the impression that Reed is super-smart, as in smarter than a normal human could possibly be. If that's true then Batman can't really compete Reed in terms of pure I.Q.

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    #31  Edited By Batmanfan

    Batman is smart but not that smart... if you want to compare smarts I.Q. wise you would have a better debate over who is smarter Tony Stark or Richard Reed... they are both smart and scientist so that would be a better comparison then Batman and Reed.

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    #32  Edited By Spectacular-Girl

    cairtainly reed is smarter than batman

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    #33  Edited By Class Clown

    reeds a scientist......batman just knows how to piece together a crime scene, so id say richards takes the win

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    #34  Edited By speedlgt

    He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
    He is better in everything that MATTERS

    Reed has nothing on batman

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    #35  Edited By Shawn The Devil

    Batman is Smart but not on par with Reeds, The true Challenge is Reed and Banner.

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    #36  Edited By Class Clown
    Shawn The Devil said:
    "Batman is Smart but not on par with Reeds, The true Challenge is Reed and Banner."

    i agree but ill still hav 2 go with reed
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    #37  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
    speedlgt said:
    "He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
    He is better in everything that MATTERS

    Reed has nothing on batman"

    Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes Batman is a better tactition and detective, but in pure intelligence Reed clearly dusts him. Last time I checked Batman has never invented a time machine or done a myriad of other things that reed has accomplished. Batman is smart but clearly not on the same level. Reed has to battle intellect with Dr. Doom who is even better with Prep than Batman is and who is also smarter than Batman. If you want someone of comparative intelligence to Reed Richards you need to look at Bruce Banner, or Victor Von Doom.
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    #38  Edited By speedlgt
    Lunacyde said:
    "speedlgt said:
    "He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
    He is better in everything that MATTERS

    Reed has nothing on batman"

    Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes Batman is a better tactition and detective, but in pure intelligence Reed clearly dusts him. Last time I checked Batman has never invented a time machine or done a myriad of other things that reed has accomplished. Batman is smart but clearly not on the same level. Reed has to battle intellect with Dr. Doom who is even better with Prep than Batman is and who is also smarter than Batman. If you want someone of comparative intelligence to Reed Richards you need to look at Bruce Banner, or Victor Von Doom."
    I will give you that he is Higher in IQ but that does not mean hes smarter....... there are various types of intellects all of which a person can be a genius in. There is even physical intellect....did you know that? Smarts is not confined to books and subjects like math and science......  that my friend is stereotype that we have come to accept however its not true in any sense.  Also this "concept" of pure intelligence is a fraud because there is no way to define pure intelligence.  In fact the intelligence concept is too broad to be dumb ed down to saying "person A is "smarter" than person B" When the truth is both will greater intelligence in different areas.


    In various issues Reed is higher than batman however none of those issues match Reed as a superhero with batman. Batman is more useful, and better in every way that Matters in the world of superheros. In this sense Batman is SMARTER than reed because he has more different TYPES of intellect that are useful Batman is master of all trades hes not one dimensional   
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    #39  Edited By The Hottness

    Reed is smarter...

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    #40  Edited By speedlgt
    The Hottness said:
    "Reed is smarter..."
    Can you define "smarter"

    Can any of you?
    Sorry guys hes not
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    #41  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    speedlgt said:
    "The Hottness said:
    "Reed is smarter..."
    Can you define "smarter"

    Can any of you?
    Sorry guys hes not"
    Reed actually is smarter.He is knowledgeable in more areas of science than Batman,he processes information faster,he competes with geniuses on a superhuman level.
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    #42  Edited By AtPhantom

    They are both smart in their own way.

    Who's going to build a machine capable of sucking Galactus dry of his power? Reed.

    Who's going to win in a chess game? Bruce.

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    #43  Edited By bumnut
    Resonate said:
    "

    Warlock360 says:

    "Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards"

    that's definite

    "

    That's like saying is Mr Fantastic a better fighter than Batman? That's Reeds calling, his brain/smarts! Bats/Bruce is smart in certain areas, like deductive/detective skills, fighting skills etc, but he is in ho way/shape/form smarter than Reed.
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    #44  Edited By John_Feaster

       Reed Richards is smarter than Batman hands down. Of the ordinaly human beings in the DC Universe, only Lex Luthor can compare to him. Reed is smarter than Batman...

        ...and it wouldn't help him one bit. Batman would slaughter the man. If you were to put both men in a situation where quick thinking was needed, Batman would be making his choice - and it would usually be the right one - while Reed Richards was still weighing and balancing his options. Reed's too careful.

       Now, if this was a "Invent an Interdimentional Teleporter" sort of situation, obviously Reed would have Batman on the ropes. Reed IS a more intelligent man, with more scientific knowledge at his disposal.

       I'm just saying that it wouldn't usually matter. Batman would slaughter the man in a fight, and usually be smart enough to puzzle out a situation just as quickly as Richards. Reed would usually only have the edge in inventive genius.

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    #45  Edited By The Devil Tiger
    John_Feaster said:
       Reed Richards is smarter than Batman hands down. Of the ordinaly human beings in the DC Universe, only Lex ... [more]
    +1
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    #46  Edited By SC

    Generally yes, Reed is smarter. Define what you mean by smarter and more importantly, the various ways you could define smarter and things open up a bit more. Reed's IQ on the other hand, would make Batman stroke his chin meditatively.

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    #47  Edited By Valtot

    ye differnt kinds of smarts batmans smarter in the sense he plans better and figures things out easy but not like reed where he invents things and is a genuis in all types of fields. Though batman is a genuis in alot of fields to.

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    #48  Edited By FinalStar86

    " They are both smart in their own way.Who's going to build a machine capable of sucking Galactus dry of his power? Reed.Who's going to win in a chess game? Bruce. "
    This
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    #49  Edited By Mercy_

    Their strengths lie in different fields. 

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    #50  Edited By PowerHerc

    Mr. Fantastic is smarter.  Batman is more wise and wiley.

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