Is Batman actually smarter than Mr. Fantastic?

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#1 Posted by D-Deadpool (17 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?

#2 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

Warlock360 says:

"Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards"

that's definite

#3 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards

#4 Posted by bdog (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Hes a detective not a scientist...

#5 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

That's because fanboys always vote for their fav.

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#6 Posted by D-Deadpool (17 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree, but have you seen the intellect list, amazingly Reed is second! Batman is rich but he's not smarter than the Mr. Fantastic, thats a fact.

#7 Posted by DragonGateAcer (5400 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah reed is much smarter

#8 Posted by POHOCOM (807 posts) - - Show Bio

D-Deadpool says:

"I agree, but have you seen the intellect list, amazingly Reed is second! Batman is rich but he's not smarter than the Mr. Fantastic, thats a fact."

Batman is not even near the top 10.

#9 Posted by IcePrince_X (4865 posts) - - Show Bio

what kind of intelligence are we looking at?

There are 11 types of Intelligence according to Howard Gardner: Spatial, Bodily-Kinethics, Naturalistic, Interpersonal, Intrapersonal, Verbal-Linguistic,Logical-Mathematical, Musical, Existential, Spiritual and Moral.

based on their personalities, Dr. Reed has more of the 11 than Batman. So my bet is Dr. Reed.

#10 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

D-Deadpool says:

"I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?"

i already brought this up before,your new, i'll let it slide

the ranks are fan base so if you don't like it, vote

#11 Posted by Drizzt (584 posts) - - Show Bio

D-Deadpool says:

"I personally think that Reed Richards needs to be before Batman on the intellect list, what do you think?"

The power rankings here are more like a popularity contest than actual rankings. You could vote enough and make Storm the smartest and best overall IF you wanted to. People do it all the time. Thats why Storm is almsot number one on the overall list. Fanboys/girls just vote for thier fav instead of who actually would win, and they vote over and over and over again.

lol

#12 Posted by Barry Flash (1573 posts) - - Show Bio

YES

#13 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the powers/abilities rankings have become completely corrupted by fanboyism to the point they are meaningless. I stopped paying attention to them months ago.
Post Edited:2008-03-09 18:11:35

#14 Posted by Mandalorethegangsta (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Im a big batman fan but i think reed is way smarter 

#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91368 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman maybe more knowledgable than Reed in some areas but he's not as smart as Reed.I honestly don't even think he's smarter than Tony Stark.

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#16 Posted by KnightlyVengence (302 posts) - - Show Bio

What about street smart? I mean after all this time I think Batman has probably earned his Ph. D. in street degree. I think he's smart in that way, but yeah not so much in the book smart category compared to Reed.

#17 Posted by Mighty Thorion (797 posts) - - Show Bio

Their expertise is in different fields -Batman is the greater detective, Reed is the greater scientist.

#18 Posted by KnightlyVengence (302 posts) - - Show Bio
Mighty Thorion said:
"Their expertise is in different fields -Batman is the greater detective, Reed is the greater scientist."
I'm cool with that... ;)

#19 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

it's a completely different type of IQ here...

while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

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#20 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"it's a completely different type of IQ here...

while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

M
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#21 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

why do people keep quoting me without agreeing or disagreeing with what i said?

it's just a waste of a post lol

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#22 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio

quoting someone without answering is my way of saying i agree or would of said the same.

#23 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio
Voidheart said:
"quoting someone without answering is my way of saying i agree or would of said the same.
"

You could just +1 them.
#24 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"it's a completely different type of IQ here...

while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

M

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that being said Batman would outsmart both terrific and fantastic in situations that would matter. I would Place Batman higher only  because of that
#25 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"Methos said:
"it's a completely different type of IQ here...

while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

M

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that being said Batman would outsmart both terrific and fantastic in situations that would matter. I would Place Batman higher only  because of that
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but that doesn't mean his smarter, his skills are just more useful in real-life situations but then again, Reed doesn't exist in a world of real-life situations
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#26 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah static and I argued this way way back in the day lol. Reed is smarter though. Batman only has him in one field thats being a detective. Even though I think reed won't have to much of a problem solving a mystery. He found out how to beat gladiator on there first occasion.

#27 Posted by lionel hunter (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

i believe this disscision mainly revolves around who's smarter scientifically  which that would be reed because he is a scientist

#28 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio
aztek the lost said:
"speedlgt said:
"Methos said:
"it's a completely different type of IQ here...

while i'd put Reed in the "Intelligent" box, i'd put Batman more in the "Wise" box, not to say he isn't intelligent, but he isn't at genius level intellect or anything. he's wise and has experience, but he's not on any kind of intellect level like Mr Terrific or Mr Fantastic

M

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that being said Batman would outsmart both terrific and fantastic in situations that would matter. I would Place Batman higher only  because of that
"
but that doesn't mean his smarter, his skills are just more useful in real-life situations but then again, Reed doesn't exist in a world of real-life situations
"
I agree with this, IMO in any situation that would matter like real world stuff Batman is more useful. Basically batman is more useful all around. he may not be "smarter" but hes well better, and kinda of smarter in more important areas. Like the skrulls, Batman would not know how the skrulls hid like reed was able to figure out. But Batman would not have gotten GOT like reed did. Bats would have had his guard up and had a plan to deal with the heros who he tought would be skrulls. Reed was more like amazed by the science of how they did it.  Also batman would not have do that crazy ass plan the Stark and the others tried, which brought the war to start with.
#29 Posted by Question08 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

While I don't think Batman is as good a physicist as Fantastic, you have to take into account Bat's expertise in several other areas of science.  If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first injustice on the comicvine boards; like Batman above Mister Miracle on the escape artists page, and isn't Plastic Man more stretchy than Fantastic?

#30 Posted by Jacky (44 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always been under the impression that Reed is super-smart, as in smarter than a normal human could possibly be. If that's true then Batman can't really compete Reed in terms of pure I.Q.

#31 Posted by Batmanfan (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is smart but not that smart... if you want to compare smarts I.Q. wise you would have a better debate over who is smarter Tony Stark or Richard Reed... they are both smart and scientist so that would be a better comparison then Batman and Reed.

#32 Posted by Spectacular-Girl (3 posts) - - Show Bio

cairtainly reed is smarter than batman

#33 Posted by Class Clown (311 posts) - - Show Bio

reeds a scientist......batman just knows how to piece together a crime scene, so id say richards takes the win

#34 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
He is better in everything that MATTERS

Reed has nothing on batman

#35 Edited by Shawn The Devil (5754 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is Smart but not on par with Reeds, The true Challenge is Reed and Banner.

#36 Posted by Class Clown (311 posts) - - Show Bio
Shawn The Devil said:
"Batman is Smart but not on par with Reeds, The true Challenge is Reed and Banner."

i agree but ill still hav 2 go with reed
#37 Posted by Lunacyde (19458 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
He is better in everything that MATTERS

Reed has nothing on batman"

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes Batman is a better tactition and detective, but in pure intelligence Reed clearly dusts him. Last time I checked Batman has never invented a time machine or done a myriad of other things that reed has accomplished. Batman is smart but clearly not on the same level. Reed has to battle intellect with Dr. Doom who is even better with Prep than Batman is and who is also smarter than Batman. If you want someone of comparative intelligence to Reed Richards you need to look at Bruce Banner, or Victor Von Doom.
#38 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"speedlgt said:
"He is smarter in EVERY aspect that MATTERS
He is better in everything that MATTERS

Reed has nothing on batman"

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes Batman is a better tactition and detective, but in pure intelligence Reed clearly dusts him. Last time I checked Batman has never invented a time machine or done a myriad of other things that reed has accomplished. Batman is smart but clearly not on the same level. Reed has to battle intellect with Dr. Doom who is even better with Prep than Batman is and who is also smarter than Batman. If you want someone of comparative intelligence to Reed Richards you need to look at Bruce Banner, or Victor Von Doom."
I will give you that he is Higher in IQ but that does not mean hes smarter....... there are various types of intellects all of which a person can be a genius in. There is even physical intellect....did you know that? Smarts is not confined to books and subjects like math and science......  that my friend is stereotype that we have come to accept however its not true in any sense.  Also this "concept" of pure intelligence is a fraud because there is no way to define pure intelligence.  In fact the intelligence concept is too broad to be dumb ed down to saying "person A is "smarter" than person B" When the truth is both will greater intelligence in different areas.


In various issues Reed is higher than batman however none of those issues match Reed as a superhero with batman. Batman is more useful, and better in every way that Matters in the world of superheros. In this sense Batman is SMARTER than reed because he has more different TYPES of intellect that are useful Batman is master of all trades hes not one dimensional   
#39 Posted by The Hottness (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

Reed is smarter...

#40 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio
The Hottness said:
"Reed is smarter..."
Can you define "smarter"

Can any of you?
Sorry guys hes not
#41 Posted by Vance Astro (91368 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"The Hottness said:
"Reed is smarter..."
Can you define "smarter"

Can any of you?
Sorry guys hes not"
Reed actually is smarter.He is knowledgeable in more areas of science than Batman,he processes information faster,he competes with geniuses on a superhuman level.
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#42 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

They are both smart in their own way.

Who's going to build a machine capable of sucking Galactus dry of his power? Reed.

Who's going to win in a chess game? Bruce.

#43 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
Resonate said:
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Warlock360 says:

"Batman is NOT smarter than Reed Richards"

that's definite

"

That's like saying is Mr Fantastic a better fighter than Batman? That's Reeds calling, his brain/smarts! Bats/Bruce is smart in certain areas, like deductive/detective skills, fighting skills etc, but he is in ho way/shape/form smarter than Reed.
#44 Posted by John_Feaster (341 posts) - - Show Bio

   Reed Richards is smarter than Batman hands down. Of the ordinaly human beings in the DC Universe, only Lex Luthor can compare to him. Reed is smarter than Batman...

    ...and it wouldn't help him one bit. Batman would slaughter the man. If you were to put both men in a situation where quick thinking was needed, Batman would be making his choice - and it would usually be the right one - while Reed Richards was still weighing and balancing his options. Reed's too careful.

   Now, if this was a "Invent an Interdimentional Teleporter" sort of situation, obviously Reed would have Batman on the ropes. Reed IS a more intelligent man, with more scientific knowledge at his disposal.

   I'm just saying that it wouldn't usually matter. Batman would slaughter the man in a fight, and usually be smart enough to puzzle out a situation just as quickly as Richards. Reed would usually only have the edge in inventive genius.

#45 Posted by The Devil Tiger (1263 posts) - - Show Bio
John_Feaster said:
   Reed Richards is smarter than Batman hands down. Of the ordinaly human beings in the DC Universe, only Lex ... [more]
+1
#46 Posted by SC (13307 posts) - - Show Bio

Generally yes, Reed is smarter. Define what you mean by smarter and more importantly, the various ways you could define smarter and things open up a bit more. Reed's IQ on the other hand, would make Batman stroke his chin meditatively.

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#47 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio

ye differnt kinds of smarts batmans smarter in the sense he plans better and figures things out easy but not like reed where he invents things and is a genuis in all types of fields. Though batman is a genuis in alot of fields to.

#48 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

" They are both smart in their own way.Who's going to build a machine capable of sucking Galactus dry of his power? Reed.Who's going to win in a chess game? Bruce. "
This
#49 Posted by Mercy_ (92997 posts) - - Show Bio

Their strengths lie in different fields. 

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#50 Posted by PowerHerc (85153 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Fantastic is smarter.  Batman is more wise and wiley.

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