Is Moon Knight Marvel's Batman?

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#51 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bearded Justice said:
While I don't really think he's Marvel's Batman, I will agree that there are a lot of similarities.  Frankly, I don't care. "
#52 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@GT-Man said:
"@Andferne: I know that but a lott of them have similarities like batman "

But not altogether.
#53 Posted by DarthT0n3h (21 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danial79 said:
" Obviously there are going to be differences. Marvel are not going to make a character called FlyingRodentMan or anything. All I was saying is that there are a LOT of similarities. So far, @Gunslinger6 is the only one who has listed a comparable list, with his Iron Man example... "  
 Deathstroke - DC
Deadpool - Marvel
#54 Posted by McJawsh (91 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthT0n3h said:
" @Danial79 said:
" Obviously there are going to be differences. Marvel are not going to make a character called FlyingRodentMan or anything. All I was saying is that there are a LOT of similarities. So far, @Gunslinger6 is the only one who has listed a comparable list, with his Iron Man example... "  
 Deathstroke - DC
Deadpool - Marvel
"
Most win I've seen on here.
#55 Posted by Crackdown (604 posts) - - Show Bio

This is totally an obvious one 
 
Nighthawk people, Nighthawk. The only true batman copy, and on purpose too. Wahahaha

#56 Posted by daredevil21134 (11378 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative said:
" @G Bird said:
" There are similarities but no, I don't think he's "Marvel's Batman". And frankly, I'm sick of people saying this. There are many topics debating this, you should have just posted in there instead of making another one. BTW, Moon Knight's comics are a lot better than Grant Morrison's works that he passes on as Batman. "
Same. They really shouldn't keep saying this. "

Agreed
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#57 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthT0n3h said:
" @Danial79 said:
" Obviously there are going to be differences. Marvel are not going to make a character called FlyingRodentMan or anything. All I was saying is that there are a LOT of similarities. So far, @Gunslinger6 is the only one who has listed a comparable list, with his Iron Man example... "  
 Deathstroke - DC
Deadpool - Marvel
"
I still like Deadpool better, even though Deathstroke came first
#58 Posted by DarthT0n3h (21 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative: not saying it's a bad thing. i'm not into deathstroke at all. just figured i'd bring it up since deadpool is a play on deathstroke.
#59 Posted by McJawsh (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Deathstroke came first for a reason, Deadpool is making fun of him.  lol

#60 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@McJawsh said:
" Yeah Deathstroke came first for a reason, Deadpool is making fun of him.  lol "
Deadpool is still my favorite.
#61 Edited by emptytomb (398 posts) - - Show Bio

    
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the punisher is marvels batman though the punisher is not afraid of the light or public appearances

#62 Posted by warcorpse (433 posts) - - Show Bio

the punisher? No way

#63 Posted by Danial79 (2346 posts) - - Show Bio
@emptytomb:  The Punisher? The only similarities I can see are that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante. Give me 7 more reasons and then I might believe you :)
 
The only reason I can think they are even similar is that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante.
#64 Edited by emptytomb (398 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danial79:
tired of people asking for evidence. You'll smart  enough you can figure it out. Look for evidence yourself. No he doesn't wear a cape or stalk criminals at night but that doesn't mean its similarity if he/someone else does.
 Soul Reaver comes to mind when you look at Moon Night. 
 
 
''The only reason I can think they are even similar is that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante''. this is major points that make him similar.
#65 Posted by Danial79 (2346 posts) - - Show Bio
@emptytomb
@Danial79:
tired of people asking for evidence. You'll smart  enough you can figure it out. Look for evidence yourself. No he doesn't wear a cape or stalk criminals at night but that doesn't mean its similarity if he/someone else does.
 Soul Reaver comes to mind when you look at Moon Night. 
 
 
''The only reason I can think they are even similar is that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante''. this is major points that make him similar.
You need evidence to prove a any view-point though. Otherwise I could say, Moon Knight is Marvel's Aquaman. Am I to assume you just don't have any points other than the 2 I stated?
#66 Posted by jesusjoe (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Whilst I disagree with  @emptytomb  's reasoning, I think the Punisher and Batman have some similarities in the position they fill, in that they take the place of the 'outcast' hero that goes too far in the eyes of others- it's just that the line for 'too far' is very different in both universes. Having said that, you could easily make the same argument for Wolverine; perhaps more successfully, since he and Batman are both flagship characters. And Wolvie has seen plenty of family members (wives in particular) killed, and since House of M has childhood trauma too (which, as far as I know, 616 Punny doesn't- although you could make an argument for PunisherMAX if you read 'The Tyger').  And takes on the image of a feared creature as his costume and namesake. And his definititive story involved 80's Frank Miller (though prior to Garth Ennis, I would have said the same about the Punisher - Child's Play is still one of my favourites). Of course, using this sort of thinking, from the 'real world' point of view, well; Academy Award winners aren't really clamoring to make a Moon Knight film, are they?

#67 Edited by batman_is_god (1185 posts) - - Show Bio
@danialcarroll79@gmail.com:
Do you even need to ask? 
 
I am sure many a Marvel fan will defend him, but it is pretty obvious. There is inspiration, like Zorro to Batman or Superman to Goku, then there is rip off. Look no further than Moon Knight for an example of the latter. All the reasons you named are too much to ignore. My favorite example is that Batman throws bat shaped shuriken while Moon Knight throws moon shaped shuriken.
#68 Posted by batman_is_god (1185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gunslinger6:
A good point. While not even close to the extent of Batman, he even prepares for some of his allies (the thorbuster and hulkbuster suits)
#69 Posted by warcorpse (433 posts) - - Show Bio

Moon knight and batman are NOTHING alike 
 
Rich 
Cape  
Themed paraphernaila 
THAT'S IT!

#70 Posted by warcorpse (433 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not wrong

#71 Posted by Danial79 (2346 posts) - - Show Bio
@warcorpse: There's also: 
 
  • Mostly play at night  
  • Vigilantes
  • Non-Super
  • Use melee weaponry and hand-thrown projectiles
  • Have a variety of gadgets and vehicles 
  • Has caves under their mansions
#72 Posted by warcorpse (433 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danial79: Right, they only have the superficial thing in common. Look at their personalities, their crime fighting methods, their supporting cast, and most importantly, their origins. Now if we compare the two, they are literally night and day. Of course gregg hurwitz didn't help anything when he had him fight a villain named scarecrow, but that beside the point, they are different where it counts.
#73 Posted by Danial79 (2346 posts) - - Show Bio
@warcorpse: I never said they were identical, just that he had more similarities than any other Marvel character.
#74 Posted by warcorpse (433 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danial79: Ok, but some people do and it's annoying as hell
#75 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danial79 said:
" @emptytomb:  The Punisher? The only similarities I can see are that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante. Give me 7 more reasons and then I might believe you :)
 
The only reason I can think they are even similar is that he saw his family get killed and he's a vigilante.
"
Exactly. Punisher is an anti-hero.
#76 Posted by DarkBird (167 posts) - - Show Bio

who is marvel's nightwing

#77 Posted by foolkiller1 (229 posts) - - Show Bio
#78 Posted by Justiceisblind (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Mockingbird would be Marvel's Black Canary, as Mockingbird was the love interest to Hawkeye, Black Canary was the love interest to Green Arrow.

#79 Posted by jhazzroucher (15544 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther is

#80 Posted by JSH92 (414 posts) - - Show Bio

@Danial79 said:

@warcorpse: There's also:

  • Mostly play at night
  • Vigilantes
  • Non-Super
  • Use melee weaponry and hand-thrown projectiles
  • Have a variety of gadgets and vehicles
  • Has caves under their mansions

Since when did Moon Knight have a cave under his mansion? In everything I've read, different rooms in his mansion (mainly his master bedroom) served as his "batcave." Also, those other things on the list apply to dozens of comic book heroes, so they're kind of superficial. I mean, using those "similarities" you could compare lots of other heroes with Batman.

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