Batgirl #4

Vengeance Of The Moon Knight #3

I just realize that most Batman family hair is non blond, which makes it weird 2 see Steph as new B-Girl.
 
Oh yeah, Dick wasn't around when Barbara was "recovering".

I didn't get the same vibe that you got from Batgirl. I absolutely loved this issue but thought that Steph was as clumsy as ever. She would have smashed into the pavement if it wasn't for that tour bus, she talked about forgetting to use the grapple before, and she completely lucked out at the end. As for the teacher and student roles, I think Barbara has more of a 'you can't stop her, so the best you can do is contain her' attitude about Steph. She understands that Steph's going to improvise on every order, and is smart enough to use it in her advantage. Like in Batgirl #3 where Steph disobeyed the order to go home and Barbara ended up guiding her through the fight with Scarcrow anyway.

A properly written Moon Knight has virtually no similarities to Batman except that they're street levellers. I know it feels like theres similarities, I felt a bit that way too when I first started reading Moon Knight but you come to realise he's nearly as far removed as you can be from the Caped Crusader. He's a rich, deep character and he's totally nuts half the time.

" A properly written Moon Knight has virtually no similarities to Batman except that they're street levellers. I know it feels like theres similarities, I felt a bit that way too when I first started reading Moon Knight but you come to realise he's nearly as far removed as you can be from the Caped Crusader. He's a rich, deep character and he's totally nuts half the time. "

" @Dane said:

" A properly written Moon Knight has virtually no similarities to Batman except that they're street levellers. I know it feels like theres similarities, I felt a bit that way too when I first started reading Moon Knight but you come to realise he's nearly as far removed as you can be from the Caped Crusader. He's a rich, deep character and he's totally nuts half the time. "

Frank Miller's All Star Batman? "

How come its not a video review?

The sudden improvement of Stephanie does seem rather abrupt, but it is comic book logic. People get beat to all hell and somehow are unmarked by the next issue. I'm not sure the author had the time to really of shown much progression. There is often pressure on writers to get the story moving. Publishers I think worry about sales if comics move too slow. It's one of the reasons why I think more independent comics make for stronger stories.
 
That was a nice catch about the statement Barbra makes. It's annoying how writers will twist events that have such meanings. It seems like an odd time to have Barbra reflecting on that time in her life. It also seems twisted having the relationship she has with Stephanie to be more like the Alfred. If anything, I would expect things to be more along the lines of how it was done in the animated Batman Beyond series. How Bruce would pretty much supervise missions. It could make for some nice interactions. Having Barbra watching Stephanie's movements via some video feed as if she's on some sort of probationary period and needs to earn the right to really prove she can go solo.
 
I really don't know much at all about Moonknight. Thanks for the reviews though. I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think your writing has shown some real improvement as of late. I can't quite put my finger on how. Not as if you were a poor writer to begin with from where I stand. You know how when some people write, while technically accurate, it can feel sort of bland? More as if you are in some kind of lecture then a conversation. This feels much more casual. The personality comes through and I believe that makes for a better read.

"I didn't get the same vibe that you got from Batgirl. I absolutely loved this issue but thought that Steph was as clumsy as ever. She would have smashed into the pavement if it wasn't for that tour bus, she talked about forgetting to use the grapple before, and she completely lucked out at the end. As for the teacher and student roles, I think Barbara has more of a 'you can't stop her, so the best you can do is contain her' attitude about Steph. She understands that Steph's going to improvise on every order, and is smart enough to use it in her advantage. Like in Batgirl #3 where Steph disobeyed the order to go home and Barbara ended up guiding her through the fight with Scarcrow anyway. "

I've heard the Batman/Moon Knight complaints before.  To be honest, I think Moon Knight is a better character.  He's evolved much more then Batman ever has, especially between the 2006 run and this new Vengeance series.  The Scarecrow thing kinda weirded me out too, while I was reading it.  But they did such a good job with him that I forgave it.

Like people have said Moonknight does have similarities but they really stop at the no powers vigilante with money. I mean his whole back story, Khonshu, his mental state always influx. Plus, does Batman rip peoples faces off to get them out of his mind? An does said victim follow him around as a delusional embodiment of his god, removed face and all?

" @Blindside002: I don't think so. Dick  didn't come to see her and his actions caused a rift in their relationship, so I think this is an instance of the writer just making things up. "

I can see where you're coming from with the Barbara & Stephanie relationship.  But in a series called 'Batgirl' she can't be in the spotlight anymore.  It's good that she's there to support the Batgirl legacy she's created... but it really does feel like it isn't enough Babs.

" @burr787 said:

"I didn't get the same vibe that you got from Batgirl. I absolutely loved this issue but thought that Steph was as clumsy as ever. She would have smashed into the pavement if it wasn't for that tour bus, she talked about forgetting to use the grapple before, and she completely lucked out at the end. As for the teacher and student roles, I think Barbara has more of a 'you can't stop her, so the best you can do is contain her' attitude about Steph. She understands that Steph's going to improvise on every order, and is smart enough to use it in her advantage. Like in Batgirl #3 where Steph disobeyed the order to go home and Barbara ended up guiding her through the fight with Scarcrow anyway. "

I pretty much agree with all that is said here. 

Moon Knight cut Bushman's (he he ) face off earlier so I guess he's back from the grave, wanting his face back.

Moon Knight and Batman are in no way similar besides using gadgets and having capes