Who can beat Midnighter

#1 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Who can beat Midnighter in Checkers, Chess and Backgammon

Who can beat this guy in strategical gaming?

  • no combat, no weapons, no gear (besides his battle computer)
  • no allies, no external resources
  • only the games, nothing else
  • no telepaths, only pure strategizing
  • anyone at all below entity level

The battles take place in

Can anyone at all beat Midnighter in these games? even stalemate him? Anyone?

#2 Posted by TotalBalance (741 posts) - - Show Bio

Possibly the Joker, If I remember correctly Midnighter could not predict the Jokers actions one time they met due to the Jokers insanity. The Joker is also known to be quite the genius and strategist. Without the battle computer helping him, Midnighter is not known for being a high level thinker on the level of Batman or Joker so I would say that Joker could probably win 8/10.

#3 Posted by soaringturkeys (414 posts) - - Show Bio

Any super genius strategist should beat him in chess or at least stale mate him.

I believe at their level, chess for them is like us playing tic tac toe.

Despite how well or how smart you are, there are only soo much you could do to win.

#4 Posted by CaptainDoeo (789 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA.

#5 Posted by Immortal777 (7383 posts) - - Show Bio

Braniac 5

#6 Posted by boschePG (2286 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet Witch or Domino - they effect probabilities

Phobos- hes a precog with the fear thing

#7 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe tony stark,,,extremis might help

#8 Posted by Hondo_ (409 posts) - - Show Bio

Domino

Black Cat

Master Chief

The Leprechaun.

#9 Edited by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith:

do you mean Jarvis?

#10 Posted by robertloucksjr (1729 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron

Brainiac 5

Nova with Worldmind

#11 Edited by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony is a great chess player, and Extremis also affected Stark mentally, allowing him to process information at light speed, on a subconscious level, which could help him in this series of games.

#12 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

With extremis he could instantly access every bit of information on strategy and tactics in any of these games giving him an edge

#13 Posted by sync1 (2961 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith said:

Maybe tony stark,,,extremis might help

No way Stark can beat Midnighter.

He's not good enough a strategist to outsmart a guy who can predict your movements.

#14 Edited by sync1 (2961 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Tim Drake could pull it off. I would even dare to say Dick can win.

#15 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter is using a computer to help,,extremis is definitely a suitable tool to battle someone in this case,,anything midnighter uses for strategy tony could possibly access at light speed..this isn't a fight btw and a couple of sidekicks aren't smart on Tony's level of intelligence

#16 Posted by roboadmiral (544 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying no equipment except for the Battle Computer with Midnighter is like saying fist fight except one participant gets a machinegun. It takes it out of the hands of the characters as strategists since the computer does the vast majority of the work for Midnighter.

#17 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

There's an unbeatable algorithm for winning Checkers, so Middy is literally unbeatable there. Chess has a finite number of possible moves, so the battle computer's millions-per-second processing should let him calculate the best possible move pretty easily. The only one he can actually lose is Backgammon, because the dice insert a random factor. But since it's largely random, I don't think anyone except probability manipulators or people with TK would be able to consistently beat Midnighter at it.

#18 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Extremis tony could win if not stalemate

#19 Posted by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

#20 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@sync1 said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

Maybe tony stark,,,extremis might help

No way Stark can beat Midnighter.

He's not good enough a strategist to outsmart a guy who can predict your movements.

I think Tim Drake could pull it off. I would even dare to say Dick can win.

Are you serious about it? The Extremis virus allows him to process information at Light-Speed...his brain, taking in more information than he could consciously process(not exactly sounds fair though)..it's basically linking your Brain to all supercomputers around the World through Internet. he can calculates all the probability of making a single chess moves....

I know Batman once said that Tim is smarter than him...but I am sure Tim is no where near Stark's level, let alone Extremis Stark.

#21 Posted by Strider92 (16299 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet Witch, Domino, Black Cat and anyone else who can change probability has a very good shot.

Aside from that unpredictable people like Deadpool have a chance too.

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#22 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33093 posts) - - Show Bio
@TotalBalance Naw that wasn't really Joker, it was a construct that looked like him.

TAO beats Midnighter at chess then makes him eat the pieces
#23 Posted by Strider92 (16299 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

TAO beats Midnighter at chess then makes him eat the pieces

Forgot that guy. Yeah he would stomp mostly anyone at board games.

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#24 Posted by dondave (36664 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool

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#25 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

bobby fisher

#26 Posted by MirageJester (23 posts) - - Show Bio

The Mad Thinker could win at chess he certainly has the tools to at least challenge Midnighter. For a normal human he probably would be high on the list.

#27 Edited by NeonGameWave (7712 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

Constantine

Black Panther

Mr. Fantastic

Lelouch vi Britannia

Tao

Aizen

Vergil

Clank

Shadow the Hedgehog

Jimmy Neutron (maybe)

Legend from XIN

#28 Posted by sync1 (2961 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@sync1 said:

@sync1 said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

Maybe tony stark,,,extremis might help

No way Stark can beat Midnighter.

He's not good enough a strategist to outsmart a guy who can predict your movements.

I think Tim Drake could pull it off. I would even dare to say Dick can win.

Are you serious about it? The Extremis virus allows him to process information at Light-Speed...his brain, taking in more information than he could consciously process(not exactly sounds fair though)..it's basically linking your Brain to all supercomputers around the World through Internet. he can calculates all the probability of making a single chess moves....

I know Batman once said that Tim is smarter than him...but I am sure Tim is no where near Stark's level, let alone Extremis Stark.

Isn't Extremis not allowed?

#29 Posted by dondave (36664 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Batman isn't beating the Battle Computer, maybe Lex but not Bruce

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#30 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1 said:

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@sync1 said:

@sync1 said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

Maybe tony stark,,,extremis might help

No way Stark can beat Midnighter.

He's not good enough a strategist to outsmart a guy who can predict your movements.

I think Tim Drake could pull it off. I would even dare to say Dick can win.

Are you serious about it? The Extremis virus allows him to process information at Light-Speed...his brain, taking in more information than he could consciously process(not exactly sounds fair though)..it's basically linking your Brain to all supercomputers around the World through Internet. he can calculates all the probability of making a single chess moves....

I know Batman once said that Tim is smarter than him...but I am sure Tim is no where near Stark's level, let alone Extremis Stark.

Isn't Extremis not allowed?

the OP stated :

  • no combat, no weapons, no gear (besides his battle computer)
  • no allies, no external resources
  • only the games, nothing else
  • no telepaths, only pure strategizing
  • anyone at all below entity level

Extremis virus is neither a weapon nor gear...And it's absolutely not Telepathy.It's main function in the Games are only strategizing the probabilities, except that it's all done in Light-Speed and with memory capacity like a Supercomputer.

#31 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Edited by krauser99 (826 posts) - - Show Bio

Edit: Never mind gaming.

#33 Posted by Frocharocha (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozymandias. Nuff said.

#34 Posted by RazzaTazz (9611 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara: Not a battle, moving to Midnighter forum

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#35 Posted by logy5000 (5734 posts) - - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

@Bane_of_sith:

do you mean Jarvis?

Extremis is a suit of armor.

#36 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@matmatxm8 said:

@Bane_of_sith:

do you mean Jarvis?

Extremis is a suit of armor.

and the thread says beat Midnighter in board games

armor is not allowed in board games like chess

#37 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Extremis is not just a suit of armor people,,it inside tony....Extremis has been referred to as a "virus" constantly since the story. The verbatim description offered by its inventor Maya Hansen, goes: "...Extremis is a super-soldier solution. It's a bio-electronics package, fitted into a few billion graphite nanotubes and suspended in a carrier fluid. A magic bullet, like the original super-soldier serum—all fitted into a single injection. It hacks the body's repair center—the part of the brain that keeps a complete blue print of the human body. When we're injured, we refer to that area of the brain to heal properly. Extremis rewrites the repair center. In the first stage, the body essentially becomes an open wound. The normal human blueprint is being replaced with the Extremis blueprint, you see? The brain is being told the body is wrong. Extremis protocol dictates that the subject be placed on life support and intravenously fed nutrients at this point. For the next two or three days, the patient remains unconscious within a cocoon of scabs. Extremis uses the nutrients and body mass to grow new organs. Better ones..." Effects of the Extremis process, apart from the changes specific to Tony Stark, included: greatly accelerated healing; immensely-boosted immune system; generation of "new, improved organs" (Tony's cardiovascular and respiratory systems were greatly upgraded); and, the side effect of increased aggressiveness. Tony Stark had the super-powers removed from the Extremis compiler, though, effectively 'exchanging' them for the ability to interface directly with machines and his own armor; but, Mallen retained said super-powers, resulting in his high-level super-strength, super-speed, advanced invulnerability, and the abilities to breathe fire and project arcs of electricity from his hands.

#38 Edited by Kamikage (12 posts) - - Show Bio

My money is on Constantine.

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