Just curious. Do you like Midnighter or hate him?

I honestly don't like him.

Satyrquaze says:

"He's interesting and a nice power-set but he's very much a douchebag, like everyone else on the Authority."

Yeah. He's pretty much a D0uchebag.

He's interesting and a nice power-set but he's very much a douchebag, like everyone else on the Authority.

...He's not my kind of hero.

Bump.

he's pretty cool...

interesting character with a very ambiguous mind... i like it :D

M

Methos says:

"he's pretty cool... interesting character with a very ambiguous mind... i like it :D M"

lol.

He's ok in my mind (Certainly not my favorite) but for some reason I see him as a Batman Rip-Off.

midnighter is one of my top favorites

he's not...

have a look at his series sometime, he's actually a really interesting character once you get below the power set.

if you're reading Dream War you'll probably see some more of the character rather than just him playing up as he'll be facing off against characters way outside of his normal league...

M

I hate him. Batman can do almost the same as he, without the augmentation.

...I'm leaning towards hating. :P

/CG

Midnight Lantern says:

"Methos says:

"he's pretty cool... interesting character with a very ambiguous mind... i like it :D M"

lol.

He's ok in my mind (Certainly not my favorite) but for some reason I see him as a Batman Rip-Off."

He's not your favorite lol?

Midnighter sure is getting alot of hate.But he is simply put better then you think he is,cause he is a gay superhero that will straight up kill your favorite superhero.Not only that his costume is bomb.

Akira Overdrive says:

"Midnighter sure is getting alot of hate.But he is simply put better then you think he is,cause he is a gay superhero that will straight up kill your favorite superhero.Not only that his costume is bomb."

To me he is just that, a killer parading around as a hero. He's what past as a hero in todays fans eyes. No honor in just killing a foe that stands no chance against you. But his costume is cool .

Alpha says:

"Akira Overdrive says:

"Midnighter sure is getting alot of hate.But he is simply put better then you think he is,cause he is a gay superhero that will straight up kill your favorite superhero.Not only that his costume is bomb."

To me he is just that, a killer parading around as a hero. He's what past as a hero in todays fans eyes. No honor in just killing a foe that stands no chance against you. But his costume is cool . "

I could hardly agree more. Midnighter has a cool suit, but kills too much to be a hero. x_X

/CG

i'm not really familiar with any of his solo stuff but from what i've read in Authority i like him. he's definitely not your typical hero which i like.

I like the Authority;

And Midnight is indeed a version of Batman, like all of the first members of Henry Bendix's SPD thing were. Amaze was Wonder Woman, Lamplighter was Green Lantern. I have to say, that while I love the Authority, and the Wildstorm universe as a whole, Hawksmoor only just makes it over Midnighter. Which is odd, because I hate Batman.

I hate Midnighter.. his super power is 'I win if there is any chance of it happening'. And thats why I dislike him, there is no struggle to the character.  no effort.. just 'I win'..  like a person hacking in counterstrike or any FPS.  

Plus, he's an ass.. ive seen scans of him killing what were essentially kids.  That it just not cool.

I have a question about this guy. This is what is stated on the vine about his computer augmentation.

"His 'fight implants' include a 'combat computer' that allows him to run through a given combat situation millions of times in his mind, almost instantly covering nearly every possible result before the first punch is even thrown. He uses this information to predict the actions and or reactions of his foes, counteracting their moves almost before they even think to make them. "

My question  is, does he also read body language like Lady Shiva?

I ask because knowing every possible action of an opponent isn't enough. For example: I know a opponent may do a revers-kick so i plan for a reaction to it, but how do I know that's is what he is going to do? I know Midnighter has burst of speed, but is it continuous to where he can always react faster than his opponent so he can execute the predetermined strategy in his computer? And how does that work against characters like Cap America, Spiderman and Deadpool, who have their own unique style that reading their body language wouldn't really work?

C'mon! Where r the Midnighter fanboys?

As I said in another thread, it's not perfectly clear how he knows what he knows. It's more than reading body language though since he's able to know moves long before the attacker makes them (so before their body starts getting into a position to attack that would broadcast their moves to someone that just read body language). For your next question, it seems that he not only knows what the possible moves are, but also the probability of them, either through just running numbers, seeing the nerve impulses in their heads, or something else. That's how he knows which of a number of moves is coming next instead of just all the possible moves and not knowing which to defend against. The speed thing was also in the other thread. I say "short bursts" because so far he's only moved so fast he couldn't be seen in spurts, not all throughout a fight, but there's nothing actually saying he couldn't. It seems that his normal speed (where he's still visible) is fast enough for him to outperform most enemies though. Since he isn't limited to reading body language the last quesittion doesn't apply. Even if he did though, "unique styles" doesn't mean reading body language doesn't work. Regardless of the style, to move certain ways your body has to get many other parts going beforehand and a body reader would see those preceding movements and it would tell them what you're trying to do.

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I hate Midnighter.. his super power is 'I win if there is any chance of it happening'. And thats why I dislike him, there is no struggle to the character.  no effort.. just 'I win'..  like a person hacking in counterstrike or any FPS.  

Plus, he's an ass.. ive seen scans of him killing what were essentially kids.  That it just not cool.

"

I think many of you are missing the whole point of The Authority. The whole point of the comic is supposed to be mocking the traditional sense of what a super hero is. Yes, Midnighter is like Batman - that's the point. Just as Apollo is EXACTLY like Superman. The "Doctor" is obviously an allusion to DOCTOR Strange. The characters are made to run parallel in order to provide greater opportunities for satire. The whole point of Midnighter's power being to be able to predict every outcome of a battle before he begins - is making fun of the fact that regardless of how powerful Batman's enemies were, he was still somehow always able to slug it out with them. Although Midnighter is not my favorite charactor in The Authority - personally I liked Jeroen the best - Midnighter definitely comes in a close second. The contrasts between how he is at home with Apollo, and how savage he is when on the battlefield is just an extrordinary juxtaposition. For those of you who criticize him as being remorseless - well, The Authority deals with a very gritty reality where people die - and the whole reason Midnighter was given the powers that he has is so that he can destroy things - that is the thrust of his character. But Batman was also supposed to be the archetype of a Byronic hero in that he is away from society - almost a necessary evil force, to keep the more evil things at bay. Midnighter is awesome.

Midnighter is one of my favorite characters.

"

Midnighter sure is getting alot of hate.But he is simply put better then you think he is,cause he is a gay superhero that will straight up kill your favorite superhero.Not only that his costume is bomb.

"

Cool.

I generally like him.  He's got a good visual design and a cool powerset, and I like his unapologetic marriage to Apollo.  He's the ultimate 'badass' character (by design), and that works both for and against him.  He's awesome and an asskicker, but he's also ridiculously arrogant and prickish, so much so that I sometimes find myself rooting for his opponent, just to bring him down a peg or two.  Many of his adventures play up this side of his personality in order to make him look even more kick-ass, which is annoying and somewhat dehumanizing.  He has flashes of a much more complex personality underneath the overconfident killing machine, but the need to maintain his uber-badass image by having him massacre scrub villains and grunts prevents this from being played out properly. 

Overall though, he's a good character and a nice addition to the overall superhero pantheon.

Have you seen him in the current Authority series? I thought the confrontation with Eidolon was interesting.

I don't know if I like him..I'm on the fence.The more I read the more I start to like his personality..but his powers are silly.

Midnighter just doesnt do it for me....he isnt really all that original, don't like his personality, the character just doesnt appeal to me. Plus his powers are just silly.

But thats just my humble opinion.

"Have you seen him in the current Authority series? I thought the confrontation with Eidolon was interesting."

A friend of mine told me the current Authority series sucks....

Is that not right?

Hate him! They need to tone this guy down a bit. Guys like Batman can nearly do what he does without all the over-power additions. Just somebody wanting a character who can beat Batman.

"Hate him! They need to tone this guy down a bit. Guys like Batman can nearly do what he does without all the over-power additions. Just somebody wanting a character who can beat Batman."

I agree that Midnighter is a 2D character. He is a Gay-Batman! nuff said.

"I agree that Midnighter is a 2D character. He is a Gay-Batman! nuff said."

Midnighter is Awesome ^^

"Midnighter just doesnt do it for me....he isnt really all that original, don't like his personality, the character just doesnt appeal to me. Plus his powers are just silly.

But thats just my humble opinion."

LOve midnighter

I think his powers are silly but he's not a bad character.

I really like him as a character, but he's not my favorite member of the Authority or anything.

Love him, I thik he's my favourite LGBT superhero.

Fav Wildstorm character because he simply kicks ass and loves getting it kicked as well
 
@logan48227 said:

" @Alexander Anderson: Damn straight!People don't blink an eye when DC says Batman has learned 127 different martial arts and mastered forensic pathology, toxicology, tactics & strategy, escape artistry, and a host of other skills(all before he turned 40 by the way). He's also at or near the pinnacle of human physical perfection as well and all of this is OK.But the Midnighter has an explanation for doing the same things that Batman does and people don't like him for it.What's up with that?!? "

" Alpha said:

"Hate him! They need to tone this guy down a bit. Guys like Batman can nearly do what he does without all the over-power additions. Just somebody wanting a character who can beat Batman."

I actually like that they gave him powers to justify his wank.  It's better than the "because he's the goddamned Batman!" excuse that gets shelled out when Batman does something absurd.  Why does Batman beat people he should by all rights lose to?  Because he's BATMAN!!  Why does Midnighter beat people more powerful than himself?  Because his powers are geared to just such a situation.  It's really quite sad when a parody character makes more sense and is less ridiculous than the character he is supposed to be lampooning. "

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" Fav Wildstorm character because he simply kicks ass and loves getting it kicked as well
 
@logan48227 said:

" @Alexander Anderson: Damn straight!People don't blink an eye when DC says Batman has learned 127 different martial arts and mastered forensic pathology, toxicology, tactics & strategy, escape artistry, and a host of other skills(all before he turned 40 by the way). He's also at or near the pinnacle of human physical perfection as well and all of this is OK.But the Midnighter has an explanation for doing the same things that Batman does and people don't like him for it.What's up with that?!? "

@Alexander Anderson said:

" Alpha said:

"Hate him! They need to tone this guy down a bit. Guys like Batman can nearly do what he does without all the over-power additions. Just somebody wanting a character who can beat Batman."

I actually like that they gave him powers to justify his wank.  It's better than the "because he's the goddamned Batman!" excuse that gets shelled out when Batman does something absurd.  Why does Batman beat people he should by all rights lose to?  Because he's BATMAN!!  Why does Midnighter beat people more powerful than himself?  Because his powers are geared to just such a situation.  It's really quite sad when a parody character makes more sense and is less ridiculous than the character he is supposed to be lampooning. "

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I think many of you are missing the whole point of The Authority. The whole point of the comic is supposed to be mocking the traditional sense of what a super hero is. Yes, Midnighter is like Batman - that's the point. Just as Apollo is EXACTLY like Superman. The "Doctor" is obviously an allusion to DOCTOR Strange. The characters are made to run parallel in order to provide greater opportunities for satire. The whole point of Midnighter's power being to be able to predict every outcome of a battle before he begins - is making fun of the fact that regardless of how powerful Batman's enemies were, he was still somehow always able to slug it out with them. Although Midnighter is not my favorite charactor in The Authority - personally I liked Jeroen the best - Midnighter definitely comes in a close second. The contrasts between how he is at home with Apollo, and how savage he is when on the battlefield is just an extrordinary juxtaposition. For those of you who criticize him as being remorseless - well, The Authority deals with a very gritty reality where people die - and the whole reason Midnighter was given the powers that he has is so that he can destroy things - that is the thrust of his character. But Batman was also supposed to be the archetype of a Byronic hero in that he is away from society - almost a necessary evil force, to keep the more evil things at bay. Midnighter is awesome.

 These guys pretty much summarize the facts and why people generally like him  He also reminds me of Warsman in the Ultimate Muscle (Kinnikuman) series "

I like him. No reasoning, I think he's more interesting to read, because your opinion of him varies from arc to arc and that can be a fun thing.

i like him depending on the writer