Why do marvel games suck?

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#1 Edited by WarMachine168 (56 posts) - - Show Bio

 Whats going with the video games of Marvel, They always suck so bad. 
When a movie about marvel a superhero comes out ,then chances are you'll found out
that they will making a video game tied into the movie. We all know the outcomes of the
games, either it''s really bad or its just plain crap.

 A lot of good marvel characters have been ruined by this
 
Iron Man
War Machine
Thor
Spider Man 
Wolverine
Punisher
Hulk
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Gambit
Not Avengers
 
I don't know why are they doing this, they hire non professionals game developers
 like next level games or liquid entertainment  to make a movie tie in a game with the most 
 awesome Marvel superheroes then all of a sudden they do  their best to make it a gaming piece of shit.
 
 My advice to them is to start hiring gaming developers like

Rocksteady
Ubisoft
Konami
BioWare
Atari
Sony
Guerrilla Games
Ninja Techmo
Capcom

To work on these titles, these companies are seasoned developers that know how to make real games, and won't dissapoint.
They have years of gaming experience and have large staff of game designers who are geniuses.

Second advice is to stop making games based on the movies and do on it the comic books. Really why would some one who watch a movie on Iron Man 2
would want to play the exact same thing in a video game. NO ONE! . I meant that they should pull out a section from their comic books and expand on it making
it interesting.

Final advice is to stop making a short a ass video game because no one likes to see a video game  end so quickly. They gotta extend the story narrative to make it more
action packed, sinister and solid. Like I said they should pull out an awesome section from their comic books and expand on it. I don't want to hear about no cheap boot legged story
with no meaning to, I want to hear some thing that is raw,action packed and full of surprises.

 One more thing, stop the rated T crap, I mean come some of the marvel character are real violent and deadly they gotta be rated M not T. And stop releasing the game as soon the movie shows up because some of them are not ready yet or polished to perfection.






#2 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4172 posts) - - Show Bio

Like what Superman: Returns the video game?

#3 Posted by Death Certificate (5722 posts) - - Show Bio

Not all of them suck.

#4 Posted by Iron_Turtle (590 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Destruction was a lot of fun.

#5 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (40324 posts) - - Show Bio
@Death Certificate said:
" Not all of them suck. "
Spider-man: shattered dimensions was really good
#6 Posted by Wise Son (1796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Death Certificate said:
" Not all of them suck. "
Yeah, MUA wasn't terrible. 
#7 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

The only ones I liked were Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, The Incredible Hulk (because it was basically the same thing, lol), MUA, both X-Men Legends, and Web of Shadows (never played Shattered Dimensions). 


Other than those, I kind of agree with the OP. Marvel should start getting with non-movie games based on their characters. Not just Spider-Man and Hulk, but lesser known ones too. I'd love to play a Moon Knight game or a Black Panther game. 
#8 Posted by Death Certificate (5722 posts) - - Show Bio
@spiderbat87 said:
" @Death Certificate said:
" Not all of them suck. "
Spider-man: shattered dimensions was really good "

I liked that game as well, point is that I disagree with the OP, I could list a bunch of good marvel games.
#9 Posted by A_O_N (367 posts) - - Show Bio

Usually games made from movie material end up being horrible. But Marvel Ultimate Alliance was good and I liked Rise of the Imperfects.

#10 Edited by TheSheepHerder (12014 posts) - - Show Bio

They're horrible because they're games that have been in production for only eight months, then the game is rushed out to stores and most of the time the development team and publisher is only doing it for the money. A lot of people will buy anything with a big "Spider-Man" on the cover.

#11 Edited by Vance Astro (89572 posts) - - Show Bio

Activision already makes good Marvel games.

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#12 Posted by Shadow_Thief (2511 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of these games were terrible because they were games based on movies, which are generally just a part of the movies' merchandising tie-ins. Anybody here old enough to remember the E.T. game for the Atari 2600? It was decades ago, but it seems like the producers are still following the same basic pattern when it comes to movie tie-in games.

#13 Posted by ShirEPanjshir (605 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the MUA games and Shattered Dimensions. They don't suck.

Movie games, yeah, they usually suck.

#14 Posted by Evpraksiya (268 posts) - - Show Bio

"Fandom" is less than general masses, general masses doesn't know sh*t about games, and they spend money none the less so Marvel don't give a crap about what they do, less money in the developpement more money when they sell it, and fans will still be fans as long as the comic isn't touched. (Dc haven't understand that with their new WW vision for example, they give us a TV show and a comic sh*t at the same time, now i'm ashamed when people ask me about WW , and have to specify the fact that it's the former WW that was good.but it's not the subject here.)


Less talent / less effort put in development + people with lack of taste (aka masses blinded by a super production )=  More money/Fast money
Less talent/ less effort  put in development  + ''fan''/ connoisseur = vomit taste = Way less money for Marv/DC/etc , puzzled and less tempted. 
#15 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II
  • Marvel vs Capcom Series (not 3)
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1
  • Spider-Man 2
  • Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows splits the difference between great and terrible. Great gameplay, terrible story and characters development.
  • Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions was fun, but doesn't have a lot of replay value. I clocked it, and haven't played it since.

They're all good Marvel games. MUA 2 and MvC3 were not, though.
#16 Posted by CATPANEXE (9505 posts) - - Show Bio

lost my interest when you mentioned Ubisoft, the company that tanked the Turtles series.

#17 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATPANEXE said:
" lost my interest when you mentioned Ubisoft, the company that tanked the Turtles series. "
Ubisoft are tremendously overrated. Assassin's Creed is fun for about an hour. Then it's just the same crap over and over.
#18 Posted by azza04 (1619 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do they suck? One word SEGA


I did actually quite enjoy the Punisher game on the PS2 though :D
#20 Posted by Vitality (1832 posts) - - Show Bio
@WarMachine168 said:
"
 Whats going with the video games of Marvel, They always suck so bad. 
When a movie about marvel a superhero comes out ,then chances are you'll found out
that they will making a video game tied into the movie. We all know the outcomes of the
games, either it''s really bad or its just plain crap.

 A lot of good marvel characters have been ruined by this
 
Iron Man
War Machine
Thor
Spider Man 
Wolverine
Punisher
Hulk
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Gambit
Not Avengers
 





"

A bad video game ruins the character for you?
#21 Posted by Full_Spectrum (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

the main problem is that it takes a year and a half to go from script to openning night with a film. a video game takes at least 3 years to do correctly. MUA, spiderman: web of shadows, Spiderman: shattered dimentions, and X-men legends were all made without being dependant on a movie for promoting, plot, ect...

when any movie is converted into game, it leads to an overly simplified plot and generally poor game quality. you can tell that it was put together in a hurry, there was little time to polish and NO beta testing. the perfect example is Tron: Evolution. it was made to corespond with Tron Legacy, but since Legacy only took two years to make, the game was horrendously simple, without all the trully awesome things you would expect having seen the film. there is very limitted light-cycle action. odd camera work and a plethora of uncomfortable gaming moments. Now if they had taken another year or so to polish out a higher quality game with a bit more depth and higher "polish" you would have an awesome game. The same goes for marvel, but in this case even more so because you have a fully developed character you are trying not to butcher.

It hasn't been until lately that good comic book games are coming out like arkham asylum or shattered dimensions. clearly, the powers that be have begun to get a grip on what consumers want, so there is hope yet!!

#22 Posted by brc2000 (1686 posts) - - Show Bio

As previously mentioned, games that are made to cash-in on recent movies will usually suck. There are some that will turn out to be successful, like Escape from Butcher Bay, but those are rare. MUA and Arkham Asylum are not movie tie-ins and are generally liked.

Not a fan of any of the games I mentioned above, btw.

#23 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (12046 posts) - - Show Bio


I heard the people that are making the new spider-man are getting help from Peter David to make the story line better or something like that.

#24 Posted by Vance Astro (89572 posts) - - Show Bio

Games don't suck because they are made to go hand and hand with movies.Ghost Rider,Hulk,Iron Man 2,etc. These games sucked because of who made them not because they were rushed or tried to copy the movie.

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#25 Posted by Doctor!!!!! (2135 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
#26 Posted by FortressoftheMoon (685 posts) - - Show Bio

I always thought this game was so underrated. In fact this game should have been what the movie wasn't.

 


 

#27 Posted by ninkai300 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I do agree with all of yall, and i know how it feels when you want to bye a video game with your favorite marvel super hero only to find out that !!THE!! game sucks like !!!Monkey Balls!!! 
If I have to be honest the only marvel that i think was your money worth it   was marvel ultimate alliance 1 and 2, Spider-man web of shadows and spider-man 2. the rest is just poor made. Whats wrong with marvel does is really take an Einstein to figure out that a great game takes tikme and preparation. I am sure they could make a spider-man game that is as good batman aa or maybe better :D

#28 Posted by Chaos Burn (1880 posts) - - Show Bio

I just wish they'd listen to the fans for a decent MUA3

#29 Posted by The_Tree (8515 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of them were movie tie-ins, so they're expected to suck. 
I actually enjoyed Shattered Dimensions, Spider-Man 2, Web of Shadows, and Ultimate Alliance.

#30 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (40324 posts) - - Show Bio

There a lot of good Marvel games, when you think about it other than Arkham Asylum there isnt that many good DC games.

#31 Posted by War Killer (20880 posts) - - Show Bio
@FortressoftheMoon said:

I always thought this game was so underrated. In fact this game should have been what the movie wasn't.


 

Honestly with some minor tweaks, they could have had this game set in the present, still had all of the characters like Gambit, Mystique, Blob,. ect and it could have been completely separate from the movie and would have still been a freakin' epic game. Honestly they could have even played around with the future Wolverine/present Wolverine and had the player jump back and forth as you try to fight to change the future while also fighting to SURVIVE the future.
#32 Posted by Dracade102 (8452 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the first two movie-based Spider-man games for the X-box, Shattered Dimensions, Web of Shadows, Ultimate Alliance and the X-men Arcade game... In fact, aside from Arkham Asylum I don't remember any good DC-based video games...

#33 Posted by WildStyle (337 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this a joke? The only good DC games I can even think of are the recent Batman games. The Justice League game and DC vs Mortal Kombat were mediocre.

#34 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8319 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II
  • Marvel vs Capcom Series (not 3)
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1
  • Spider-Man 2
  • Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows splits the difference between great and terrible. Great gameplay, terrible story and characters development.
  • Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions was fun, but doesn't have a lot of replay value. I clocked it, and haven't played it since.
 They're all good Marvel games. MUA 2 and MvC3 were not, though.    
Agreed with everything above ^.^ 
 Though i did like MvC3 it was actually a really fun game.
#35 Edited by Transformers1024 (7059 posts) - - Show Bio

- Marvel vs Capcom 3

- Marvel Ultimate Alliance

- Ultimate Spiderman

- Spiderman Shattered Dimensions

#36 Posted by LyraFay (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the reason that Marvel make bad games because they don't take the video game industry seriously as they do with the movies. DC have on the other hand have found niches of various game genres where they can place their characters in and they work, the Arkham games are action-adventure/plaformer games while LEGO DC games were puzzle solvers then Injustice games was a fighting game, each one of these will appeal at least one general audience member and in turn they have success.

Not to say Marvel hasn't done bad games, Marvel Ultimate Alliance was an awesome game and so some of the Spiderman games.

#37 Posted by skypilotbinky (108 posts) - - Show Bio

Lego Marvel Super Heroes is the best Marvel game I've played. I generally stay far away from movie tie in games so I've only really played the X-Men Legend series, Ultimate Alliance series and M vs C 2 and 3. I really liked the old Sega Genesis X-Men games too.

#38 Posted by Icametoaskquestions (285 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3370 posts) - - Show Bio

Capcom??? No just no...But yeah Marvel video games suck overall compared to DC.

The last REALLY good Marvel game was Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Marvel had those two good Spiderman games back on the PS1. Marvel Ultimate Alliance was okay, better than the first IMO.

#40 Posted by Angrymeal (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@fadetoblackbolt: they have made some pretty good games besides Assisins Creed I'm not a fan of that game either though

#41 Posted by FearTheLiving (5240 posts) - - Show Bio

Capcom??? No just no...But yeah Marvel video games suck overall compared to DC.

The last REALLY good Marvel game was Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Marvel had those two good Spiderman games back on the PS1. Marvel Ultimate Alliance was okay, better than the first IMO.

I wouldn't go that far considering DC really only has one great game franchise (Arkham), it's just that Marvel has yet to make a game that really has the quality of that franchise.

#42 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3370 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_stranglehold_da_first said:

Capcom??? No just no...But yeah Marvel video games suck overall compared to DC.

The last REALLY good Marvel game was Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Marvel had those two good Spiderman games back on the PS1. Marvel Ultimate Alliance was okay, better than the first IMO.

I wouldn't go that far considering DC really only has one great game franchise (Arkham), it's just that Marvel has yet to make a game that really has the quality of that franchise.

True. But DC also has Injustice Gods Among Us which I loved and also the lego games which my brother enjoys.

#43 Edited by FearTheLiving (5240 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_stranglehold_da_first: And Marvel has Marvel vs Capcom and Lego Marvel, but I wouldn't put any of those (including Injustice and Lego Batman) higher than the Arkham games in terms of quality.

EDIT Wow just realized initial topic was made 2 and a half years ago.

#44 Posted by HillbillyMorangie (987 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by ARMIV2 (9196 posts) - - Show Bio

Well yeah, most movie tie-in games are pretty lousy. A lot of the ones they've made that were stand alone games are pretty darn good. And Wolverine: Origins was surprisingly awesome. That could've been so much more if they went away from the movie. Especially after the Sentinel bit.

#46 Edited by tigerkaya (1405 posts) - - Show Bio

Not true my favorites to this day are still Hulk Ultimate Destruction Spider-Man 1&2 for the PS1, X-Men Legends 1&2 and Ultimate Alliance. It's the movie tie ins that are horrid.

#47 Posted by GeekBait (789 posts) - - Show Bio

I finally played the Amazing Spider-Man game and I like it. Can't really see why everyone else doesn't.

#48 Posted by westy206 (943 posts) - - Show Bio

The Punisher on Ps2 was amazing.

Spider-man 1/2 on ps1 are classics.

The Hulk game on Ps2 (ultimate destruction)

Spider-man2 movie tie in was ok.

And ultimate alliance was ok

#49 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6517 posts) - - Show Bio

Because Marvel sucks.

(Someone in this thread is going to kill me...)

#50 Posted by flazam (2610 posts) - - Show Bio

There's been some good Spidey games in the past

It's also because DC make games which are not based on films and Marvel only make movie games and movie games are not great

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