Should Superheroes us guns?

#1 Posted by The Jack (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Recently, new art of the new Captain America was released, and he's holding a pistol. It made me think. We all know the Punisher would get punished himself if he had no guns and Nick Fury's got no powers, but should superheroes use guns?

I think not. A superhero shouldn't have to use guns, that's why they're SUPER.

#2 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

depends on the use, the hero and the situation...

M

#3 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"depends on the use, the hero and the situation...M"

Yup. I dont wanna see Superman with a gun (like when he fought Cyborg Superman after he came back from the dead) But like the Punisher, Cable, Bishop, Union Jack, yeah, those kinda characters can pull it off.

#4 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

King of Kings says:

"Methos says:
"depends on the use, the hero and the situation...M"

Yup. I dont wanna see Superman with a gun (like when he fought Cyborg Superman after he came back from the dead) But like the Punisher, Cable, Bishop, Union Jack, yeah, those kinda characters can pull it off."

exactly... that Superman story was a complete abomination...

it would be like seeing Batman packing a 9mm instead of batarangs...

should never happen.

but then you look at Punisher, Hitman and...hell 90% of the Wildstorm Universe... 100% of the Vertigo universe and some of the DC universe...

it's got to work with the character and the story, otherwise it's just pointless

M

#5 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

if you have powers i dont think you really need a gun, but that depends on the powers you have. i never got cable having guns, with all the powers he has, but whatever.

#7 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Solid Snake is a superhero? I thought he was a homo?

#8 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

King of Kings says:

"Solid Snake is a superhero? I thought he was a homo?"

He is? I thought-- never mind what I was gonna say

Apple: Why not? Heros and Superheros are the same thing!

#9 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

i personally wouldnt consider any of them to be superheroes

#10 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Lantern Prime says:

"**lots of crap images**"

yeah, but we all ignore you so it doesn't matter...

M

#11 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Lantern Prime says:

"King of Kings says:
"Solid Snake is a superhero? I thought he was a homo?"
He is? I thought-- never mind what I was gonna say Apple: Why not? Heros and Superheros are the same thing!"

they arent the same to me. superhero is beyond a hero. i only consider them superheroes if they have powers. but that's just the way i look at it.

#12 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Lantern Prime says:
"**lots of crap images**"
yeah, but we all ignore you so it doesn't matter... M "

Did I hear somrething?

@Apple: Most of those guys have powers.

#13 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

as far as i know only trigun has powers. what are solid snake and master chief's powers?

#14 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

MC does(his physical abilities are light years ahead of a normal man) SS doesn't. Vash has that Angel Arm.

#15 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

i said vash does and so solid snake and punisher definitely dont have powers but you said most of them have powers... that's just half, not most.

plus i see master chief being a peak human, so he's like captain america. which would mean he doesnt have powers either. or does he do something to show powers? all i ever did with him was run around and shoot guns but maybe he does something else...

#16 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"i said vash does and so solid snake and punisher definitely dont have powers but you said most of them have powers... that's just half, not most.plus i see master chief being a peak human, so he's like captain america. which would mean he doesnt have powers either. or does he do something to show powers? all i ever did with him was run around and shoot guns but maybe he does something else..."

MC is cybernetically enhanced to stupid levels...

his strength, stamina and speed are about 4 to 5 times peak human levels

M

#17 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought you never anything about him?

#18 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Well one put acrater in the moon the other Bungie jumped off a Spaceship threw the earth's atmosphere.

#19 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Apparition says:
"i said vash does and so solid snake and punisher definitely dont have powers but you said most of them have powers... that's just half, not most. plus i see master chief being a peak human, so he's like captain america. which would mean he doesnt have powers either. or does he do something to show powers? all i ever did with him was run around and shoot guns but maybe he does something else..."
MC is cybernetically enhanced to stupid levels... his strength, stamina and speed are about 4 to 5 times peak human levels M"

really? wow he doesnt seem to move like that in the game... but ok. so that's half of them who are enhanced and still none that i would consider a superhero.

#20 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

MC is the closest one to a superhuman. But I don't really know who Vash is, anyway....

#21 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Lantern Prime says:

"Well one put acrater in the moon the other Bungie jumped off a Spaceship threw the earth's atmosphere."

do either of those actions make you a superhero?

#22 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, because Spiderman can't do that. Wolverine can't do that. Cap can't. a whole lot of others can't yet they're "SUPER" heros.

And a Sparda go to wilikipedia for more info.

#23 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Lantern Prime says:

"Yeah, because Spiderman can't do that. Wolverine can't do that. Cap can't. a whole lot of others can't yet they're "SUPER" heros. And a Sparda go to wilikipedia for more info."

youre basing it on whether they can do the same thing that the other person can? that's insane. there are lots of things that regular people can do that superheroes cant. there are a lot things super villains can do that lots of superheroes cant do too.

#24 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

King of Kings says:

"Solid Snake is a superhero? I thought he was a homo?"

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

#25 Posted by Buckshot (18919 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"it would be like seeing Batman packing a 9mm instead of batarangs... should never happen."

Titans Tomorow Batman (and other versions) had guns, makes you do a double take.

Anyway, should they? Depends on the hero, you can't make a blanket statement like they all should or shouldn't. Grifter with guns = awesome. Superman with guns, not so much.

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#26 Posted by Boken (7757 posts) - - Show Bio

yea dead pool needs guns, captin america no.

#27 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm. Solid Snake is definitely a heroic character, but I wouldn't so much call him a superhero, because he isn't above his government. I mean, he usually just does what they tell him to do, so...yeah.

#28 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Most videogame heroes use guns.....and most wouldn't classify as Superheroes. I'd say MC, maybe Saki and Airan from Sin and Punishment, and Samusa are the only ones that could be classified as super-heroes. Since that what we were yapping about on LP's pics....

If superheroes actually have a use for guns (unlike Spawn in the day) and can make it seem good and well in a story, than yeah, I figure they can have em. But with people like Superman and Thor and whatever, there's not much point when they move faster than bullets anyway.

#29 Posted by Secret-Spider (123 posts) - - Show Bio
The Jack said:
"

Recently, new art of the new Captain America was released, and he's holding a pistol. It made me think. We all know the Punisher would get punished himself if he had no guns and Nick Fury's got no powers, but should superheroes use guns?

I think not. A superhero shouldn't have to use guns, that's why they're SUPER.

"
i agree
#30 Posted by Vance Astro (91291 posts) - - Show Bio

Superheroes should use...whatever is neccessary.

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#31 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Superheroes should use...whatever is neccessary."

true,but using guns isn't caps style

but it is bucky's
#32 Posted by Mighty Thorion (797 posts) - - Show Bio

In the SA DC heroes had a clearly stated no - killing policy and that meant the only major DC character to carry a gun was Adam Strange (an he only used it to stun). Marvel had no such explicit policy, but I don't think any of their major characters carried firearms at that time either. In the very early days, Batman did carry a gun for a short while - Detective Comics #32 -#35.
As for whether they should - I don't think the iconic characters of DC or Marvel (Superman, Spider-man, Batman, Captain America, Wonder Woman etc) should ever carry firearms. They all know how to defeat opponents without resorting to guns. However, carrying a gun is part of what makes characters like Punisher, Vigilante and Nick Fury who they are.

#33 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio

Well its not a good example for the kids but i guess its okay

#34 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio
Mighty Thorion said:
"In the SA DC heroes had a clearly stated no - killing policy and that meant the only major DC character to carry a gun was Adam Strange (an he only used it to stun). Marvel had no such explicit policy, but I don't think any of their major characters carried firearms at that time either. In the very early days, Batman did carry a gun for a short while - Detective Comics #32 -#35.
As for whether they should - I don't think the iconic characters of DC or Marvel (Superman, Spider-man, Batman, Captain America, Wonder Woman etc) should ever carry firearms. They all know how to defeat opponents without resorting to guns. However, carrying a gun is part of what makes characters like Punisher, Vigilante and Nick Fury who they are."
an anti hero
#35 Posted by Virago (1005 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"

King of Kings says:

"Solid Snake is a superhero? I thought he was a homo?"

He is? I thought-- never mind what I was gonna say

Apple: Why not? Heros and Superheros are the same thing!

"
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Hero: someone who is idealized/admired for their courage, ourstanding achievements.
Superhero: someone who surpasses all status quo expectations of a hero, usually with supernatural abilities.

That makes alllllll the difference.

And I think it would ruin many super heroes if they suddenly donned arms.
#36 Posted by danhimself (22648 posts) - - Show Bio
Apparition said:
"

if you have powers i dont think you really need a gun, but that depends on the powers you have. i never got cable having guns, with all the powers he has, but whatever.

"

cable uses guns because his powers are tied up constantly...he is constantly using his powers to keep the virus from taking over the rest of his body so he cant use his tk in battle....once he used against the hulk and the virus nearly killed him
#37 Posted by Vance Astro (91291 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying stuff like Superheroes shouldn't have to use guns....that's why they're super is ridiculous.

1.Bucky doesn't have any powers
2.Bucky doesn't need the gun,he has a shield....did anyone ever stop and think,maybe it's his choice to carry a gun? Maybe he prefers to have gun on him because he's a good marksman.
3.He's a soldier first and a hero second...and what do soldiers carry?

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#38 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - - Show Bio
Voidheart said:
"Well its not a good example for the kids but i guess its okay"

Um, police carry guns...are you saying that they aren't a good example for the kids?
#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91291 posts) - - Show Bio
Ebony Bishop said:
"Voidheart said:
"Well its not a good example for the kids but i guess its okay"

Um, police carry guns...are you saying that they aren't a good example for the kids?
"

NYPD and LAPD aren't.
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#40 Posted by mantoid (2305 posts) - - Show Bio
Ebony Bishop said:
"Voidheart said:
"Well its not a good example for the kids but i guess its okay"

Um, police carry guns...are you saying that they aren't a good example for the kids?
"
Kids should be allowed to have full auto's. Wouldn' t that make "play" fighting fun?
#41 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Ebony Bishop said:
"Voidheart said:
"Well its not a good example for the kids but i guess its okay"

Um, police carry guns...are you saying that they aren't a good example for the kids?
"

NYPD and LAPD aren't."
Touche.
#42 Posted by Silver Knight75 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio
@Methos said:
"

King of Kings says:

"Methos says:
"depends on the use, the hero and the situation...M"

Yup. I dont wanna see Superman with a gun (like when he fought Cyborg Superman after he came back from the dead) But like the Punisher, Cable, Bishop, Union Jack, yeah, those kinda characters can pull it off."

exactly... that Superman story was a complete abomination...

it would be like seeing Batman packing a 9mm instead of batarangs...

should never happen.

but then you look at Punisher, Hitman and...hell 90% of the Wildstorm Universe... 100% of the Vertigo universe and some of the DC universe...

it's got to work with the character and the story, otherwise it's just pointless

M

"
I totally agree with you. Guns are a last, I mean last resort, but then I still may be skeptic towards it.
#43 Posted by Psyron (1512 posts) - - Show Bio

The Comedian is a respectable hero and he uses a gun , so why can't anyone use guns then?
 
They are good for civilian casualties and hero brutality

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