Off My Mind: Marvel's Most Iconic Female Character

#101 Posted by Decept-O (7284 posts) - - Show Bio


I would not say Elektra in any way shape or form for this category. 

 

  Good article, though, and something I've thought of a few times. 

 

Invisible Woman, She-Hulk, Storm, those are the ones that pop into my head right away. 

 

 

#102 Posted by GOREX (49 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I think that people read less female hero books because they feel like they're watching porn. I mean some of the angles and covers that those comics have are very similar to Playboy. Heck if you didn't have the Marver or DC stamp I'm sure people would think it would be affiliated with a "gentlemen's" magazine.

That's a big part of the problem right there. Females in media don't have to be naked, they have to be good. They need to have a good back story, attitude accordingly and pretty much be on-par or above their male counterparts.

When's the last time you ever saw a fat superhero chick or maybe one with not so many well defined curbes. Or maybe one with an ugly face or awful hair and teeth? Fact is they're going with the "sex sells" saying as far as female superheroes go. The more curves and torn clothes accompanied by near perfect bodies are sure to grab attention.

I can't wait until things change and we get to see more normal superheroes. People more down to earth and relate-able. When that happens and we'll stop seeing erotic driven covers and combat "poses" from females then we'll have an evolution as far as that department goes.

Also 2 other things:
1) I think Wolverine is way more popular than Hulk.
2) I personally see Storm as the best possible Marvel female superhero.

#103 Edited by midnightmare (98 posts) - - Show Bio

It's Storm, she has been in all the animated series, she has been guest star in two spiderman tv shows, has apeared inmany video games and the 3 movies. Besides she won agains Wonder woman in the Marvel/DC where the figth was decided by votes.

#104 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3617 posts) - - Show Bio

It may be true that female driven comic books don't sell as well as male comic book characters, but I think this may have more to do with how intrinsically boring many of them are. Many of them are actually defined by their relationships to male peers - as a result, when you look beneath the surface, they fulfill male-driven fantasies (which may be the writer's fault) but don't have a stable personality to rely on. Even Susan Storm, Jean Grey and Ororo fall into this designation. And for better or worse, the entirety of Wonder Woman's character is born from a world where the male/female dynamic drove her culture and racial identity. Unfortunately for her, DC chose to define Amazons as 'women living in a fantasy island without men'. Even The Bride from Kill Bill was a cipher. She had a motivation - but had no personality, and her motivation was driven entirely by the action of a man and his harem of female supporters. 


I guess the main reason an iconic and "strong" female character doesn't really stand out for Marvel (I've asked my co-workers at my cable network law department today, and they couldn't name any female superhero at all) is because most of the originals were created to occupy the role of The Woman in a 5 Man Band, while more recent ones were created to be the Sex Kitten Bad Girl. There are very few female characters that can really stand out on their own in a way Hal Jordan, Kal El or Bruce Wayne can because they were not created to.
#105 Posted by Kurrent (14070 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm, Sue Storm, Elektra

#106 Edited by cosmo111687 (1489 posts) - - Show Bio

I just see Jean Grey as a better contender than Storm, Ms. Marvel, and Sue Storm.

  1. All 3 X-Men films focused more heavily on Jean Grey's character than Storm's (She was also the first character we see in the film, after a young Magneto, further establishing her importance to the X-Men mythos).
  2. She's been around longer than Storm.
  3. Jean Grey was originally named Marvel Girl, showing the creator's original intention to position her as the central female Marvel character (pre-dating Ms. Marvel)
  4. Jean Grey was the first female X-Men, Marvel's most popular team.
  5. Jean Grey is considered to be one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, female character in the Marvel universe.
  6. Jean Grey's story is deeply in-twined with Wolverine's, Marvel's most popular character.
  7. More so than any other character, Jean Grey's life has had the most major ramifications upon the future of the Mutant race. (Second only to Scarlet Witch, though Phoenix might be the only thing strong enough to undo Scarlet Witch's spell, as we see in Hope Summers.)
  8. Jean Grey's death was the first and most significant deaths of any major female Marvel character.
  9. Even in death, Jean Grey remains popular enough and significant enough to be resurrected, in spirit, again and again.
  10. Jean Grey's has Invisible Woman's demure, thoughtful, and intelligent nature, as well as her telekenesis, and Ms. Marvel's costume and name (The early Ms. Marvel costume is very similar to the early Marvel Girl costume, and the Phoenix costume bears many similarities to the current Ms. Marvel costume) and Mary Jane's hair colour (outside of calling Spider-Man "Tiger", what else would the layman super hero fan know her for?), proving that she is highly representative of the (pre-80s) Marvel woman.
  11. She takes up 50 percent of the image above.
  12. If you asked anybody who's vaguely familiar with comics to name the characters in that image above, they will tell you Invisible Woman, She-Hulk (green skin was a give-away), Phoenix/Jean Grey (because they knew her from the 90s cartoon), and maybe Storm (just because she doesn't look like typical Storm there, not because they wouldn't know her).
#107 Posted by Wolvenomparker_97 (7 posts) - - Show Bio


Jean Grey most likely

 

#108 Posted by Black Lantern Mar-vell (2040 posts) - - Show Bio

Invisible Woman

#110 Edited by charlieboy (7173 posts) - - Show Bio


sue storm deserves the credit.  marvel has a ton of great female characters and the problem is that marvel does not do enough to keep them in the spotlight. ms. marvel's book was great. it should not have been cancelled. spider-girl (mayday parker) is probably the longest running female book and it got cancelled. spider-woman deserves her own book. rogue deserves her own book. storm could pull that off as well. she-hulk needs her book back. there are lots of characters that could pull of their own book. marvel just needs to spend more time, talent, and money on the ladies.

 

#111 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

Sue Storm...easy

Next is Storm or Jean Grey due to a generation being raised seeing them on the animated series/films. 

I'm sure we could all say great things about Rogue, Black Widow, Elektra, Ms. Marvel, etc. BUT they are not a part of the public consciousness. Sue Storm is the Marvel icon. People who know nothing of comics or the FF Know of the Invisible Woman...ironic that she's the representative of many female characters in many minds. 
#112 Posted by CATPANEXE (9368 posts) - - Show Bio

most of the X-Woman are noted for breaking boundaries as far as female characters in the comic book medium go, so personally I would say the answer
is somewhere in there. Sue Storm would hold as the companies female mascot if anything in my opinion, but her past representation loses a lot of points
in her case.

#113 Posted by davelecave (1113 posts) - - Show Bio
@cosmo111687 said:
I just see Jean Grey as a better contender than Storm, Ms. Marvel, and Sue Storm.
  1. All 3 X-Men films focused more heavily on Jean Grey's character than Storm's (She was also the first character we see in the film, after a young Magneto, further establishing her importance to the X-Men mythos).
  2. She's been around longer than Storm.
  3. Jean Grey was originally named Marvel Girl, showing the creator's original intention to position her as the central female Marvel character (pre-dating Ms. Marvel)
  4. Jean Grey was the first female X-Men, Marvel's most popular team.
  5. Jean Grey is considered to be one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, female character in the Marvel universe.
  6. Jean Grey's story is deeply in-twined with Wolverine's, Marvel's most popular character.
  7. More so than any other character, Jean Grey's life has had the most major ramifications upon the future of the Mutant race. (Second only to Scarlet Witch, though Phoenix might be the only thing strong enough to undo Scarlet Witch's spell, as we see in Hope Summers.)
  8. Jean Grey's death was the first and most significant deaths of any major female Marvel character.
  9. Even in death, Jean Grey remains popular enough and significant enough to be resurrected, in spirit, again and again.
  10. Jean Grey's has Invisible Woman's demure, thoughtful, and intelligent nature, as well as her telekenesis, and Ms. Marvel's costume and name (The early Ms. Marvel costume is very similar to the early Marvel Girl costume, and the Phoenix costume bears many similarities to the current Ms. Marvel costume) and Mary Jane's hair colour (outside of calling Spider-Man "Tiger", what else would the layman super hero fan know her for?), proving that she is highly representative of the (pre-80s) Marvel woman.
  11. She takes up 50 percent of the image above.
  12. If you asked anybody who's vaguely familiar with comics to name the characters in that image above, they will tell you Invisible Woman, She-Hulk (green skin was a give-away), Phoenix/Jean Grey (because they knew her from the 90s cartoon), and maybe Storm (just because she doesn't look like typical Storm there, not because they wouldn't know her).
#114 Posted by Outside_85 (9994 posts) - - Show Bio

I would go with Jean, Storm and She-Hulk for this.

#115 Edited by newxfactor (86 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra is the most famous one, at least in Spain..

#116 Posted by Kaowas (11 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as female superhero books go, I'm currently reading 3 that are on my pull list; however, these books are Batgirl, Wonder Woman and Birds Of Prey. DC titles, yes. I do find DC's female heroes more fun to read, and I've been recently thinking about picking up Zatanna as I heard good things. 


In no way am I strictly a Marvel or DC kind of guy; I tend to drop and pick up on either side of the fence whenever I see fit. I do find the Marvel heroines fun to read, and I think they're great characters (Ms. Marvel being my favourite) but I have found it hard to pick up a book that is exclusively for one of Marvel's heroines. I've read pretty much anything with Spider-Woman, I was reading Ms Marvel's book for 12 issues, I read X-23 for a good six issues, I'm currently trying to track down She Hulks and anything else She Hulk related. On top of that my favourite X-Man was Rogue, with Magick, Pixie and Dani Moonstar as runners up, and I'm currently reading the Abnett and Lanning written New Mutants.

But all of those awesome Marvel Heroines I listed, I don't read about any more unless they are in a team book. I honestly just don't find the Marvel books written specifically for these super heroines to be that great (though I'm kicking myself for dropping Ms. Marvel). And I really, really want them to be (hence why I'm tracking down She Hulks, etc.). So this does, seriously beg the question: who is Marvel's leading lady? Because technically Marvel's "Big 3" are Captain American, Iron Man and Thor (though I still say the Spidey should be there too as a Big 4, but whatever. He's better when he's alone).

I think that Sue Storm would have to be listed as Marvel's main female Superhero since she embodies similar virtues as Wonder Woman. Both are touted as being incredibly powerful beings and are known for being ass-kickers. Despite that, my personal choice would HAVE to be Ms. Marvel. She is, in many ways, the Wonder Woman equal -- personality traits not withstanding. So she would be my pick. Hell, she's even led the Avengers. Also I might be a sucker for girls who can fly at supersonic speeds and hit things really hard -- but she basically has as many powers as Superman in the Silver Age and has the mind of a warrior tactician. She is Marvel's equal to Wonder Woman, and therefore my pick as Marvel's leading lady.
#117 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:
Its not strange at all that its so hard to identify Marvel's most iconic female character. The complete opposite if anything, it should be expected. As far as shared Universes go, having an easily identifiable most iconic anything in such a broad sense, is total, total failure and the day Marvel has an easily identifiable female character is the day they should start selling soap to animals. Another similar thread so to paraphrase myself because I am too lazy. 

"Marvel can't have a Wonder Woman, nor should they try to, because too many of its female characters actually are competitive with each other, in terms of presence, popularity, and as to how iconic and synonymous they are with the company. The day Marvel has a Wonder Woman, is the day Marvel fails. Having one sole female character people can look up to and appreciate is not a good thing when you can have 3 or 4 of them. 
Plus Superman was a huge part of Wonder Woman's existence. A lot of male characters are derivative of other male characters, just female characters were unfortunate to have this emphasized with their names. I mean, imagine if Sabretooth was called Blonde Wolverine, would that change the character? Not really, just the perception of the character, then that might change his character over time. People who have the time to look can she She Hulk is awesome, and that Storm is more than the X-Men. 

Marvel doesn't need a Wonder Woman, and DC shouldn't want one either. Why have a Wonder Woman, when you can have a Wonder Woman, Cassandra Cain, Oracle, Power Girl, Huntress, Big Barda, Scandal Savage, Vixen, etc. Marvel is the same. Why have a Wonder Woman, when they got Sue, Storm, Jean, Rogue, Black Widow, Elektra, Ms Marvel, Sentry and She Hulk!" 

Iconic can be pretty broad term, and looking over the thread there is plenty of very compelling evidence and intelligent arguments/reasons for a number of characters. This is a good thing. 
Most excellently said!
#118 Posted by notageek (86 posts) - - Show Bio

i think i am the closest thing to a non comic reader over here and i believe sue storm is most iconic character.
i didnt even knew elektra is part of marvel and spider woman even exists. even though i hardly know sue storm she is more common household name than jean grey even tho i grew up watching jean grey  in x-men.

#119 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
@RedheadedAtrocitus said:
I'm almost tempted to say that in Marvel's case there isn't one singular iconic female character like DC does. Sure, there are many candidates that come close like mentioned in this article and the comments but none come even close to matching WW's  popularity.  I honestly cannot account for why that would be the case though, for surely one would think that one of the hard hitting female characters of Marvel would be at Diana's iconic status by now.  Maybe the case is that Marvel never meant for just ONE character to be the iconic female lead and instead wanted to decentralize that popularity into many.  I mean if anyone comes close it should be Susan Storm I think considering that she turns 50 this year in comics since first being envisioned in 1961, but I think anyone will agree with me that her iconic status pales in comparison to Diana.  Still, even with that iconic status one would think that she would have had that movie or even new show by now, but apparently people are still having trouble trying to translate the Amazon from Themiscyra into live action role.  Perhaps someday it will happen. At least I hope it will.
Thing is, Wonder Woman's a figure head icon. To my knowledge you can ship some merchandise with her mug on it and non comic readers'll buy it but they and even regular comic readers don't buy her series. I think Marvel's fine the way it is in this respect, I think DC's in worse shape by having "The One!" My only complaint with Marvel, as far as females goes, is that their aren't enough longterm, compelling solo titles. Marjorie Liu's Black Widow was superb and I wish she and Acuna had continued on that title, but inevitably it was cancelled. I'm sure sooner or later X-23 will have a similar fate. Hell, Laura's one of my favs but the erratic quality of the series caused me to jump ship. What Marvel needs is big guns doing titles about some of Marvel's top women. No reason that Storm/Ms. Marvel/She-Hulk can't hold down a title that's as successful as Power Girl's been. Also I'd like to see more women writers given a chance to write women. I mean we have Gail Simone...and yeah, Gail Simone. Another problem is that Marvel as a company is more team focused. Almost all of the female characters I enjoy reading at marvel are part of a team. People knock on Marvel's terrible attempts to market to women, but I gotta say at least they're trying. At the end of the day, this is a male dominated industry and comic shops are boys clubs that more often than not hold true to many of the worse stereotypes about comic book readers. Money talks and what sales is produced, men will buy a Greg Land cheesecake fest before they buy a Black Widow issue that doesn't have her spread eagle on the cover. So until men (the crux of the market) evolve and demand more, nothing will change. 
#120 Posted by Midnight Monk (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm & Susan Storm, people can say Ms.Marvel but when it comes to being well known and idependent these two women take the cake. I when I say well known I mean by both comic fans and moviegoers not just comic fans. Because Iconic means your recognized even by someone who does pick up a comic book not just by fans
#121 Posted by MagusMaleficus (26 posts) - - Show Bio

Some might say Mary Jane due to her association with Spider-Man but she's not a superhero.


Call me crazy but if we're looking for the "most iconic female character" then Mary Jane still could fit the bill. After all, that title doesn't say "superhero" anywhere. :P
#122 Posted by CellphoneGirl (18858 posts) - - Show Bio

Sue, Jean, Mary Jane, or Storm.

#123 Edited by Xaviersx (83 posts) - - Show Bio

For the movies and comicbooks, the Invisible Woman: Sue.  Jessica Alba helped thrust her into the mainstream . . for a time.  I might have said Mary Jane, but I believe that if you introduce a way to use Gwen Stacy,  you could diminish her iconic status much easier than Sue.  Of course, maybe we could tempt Mr Fantastic with a Gwen Stacy . . . he's such the ladies man on the dance floor.

From a purely comicbook side, I'd say Jean Grey, even when they keep killing her or because of.  She's so iconic that we know her for her tombstones.

That's all I got for iconic, the ebb and flow at Marvel seems to wash out most female characters as far as that level, in my opinion.

#124 Posted by Blindside002 (226 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer
Great post, very well written and I agree with it whole heartedly. She definitely has probably the largest potential to become Marvel's most iconic woman. Also I believe she had one of Marvel's longest running solo series with a female character, 50 issues is pretty damn good no matter what character it is. So Ms. Marvel without a doubt.

@tonis said: 

Sue Storm is technically the first one, without a doubt.

Ms. Marvel though has always been in my mind their strongest female in personality though. With She-Hulk a close second.

Yup, I definitely agree with this. 
#125 Edited by Roddy010 (5392 posts) - - Show Bio

                                         STORM FTW!!!!!!

#126 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3617 posts) - - Show Bio
@kaowas said:
As far as female superhero books go, I'm currently reading 3 that are on my pull list; however, these books are Batgirl, Wonder Woman and Birds Of Prey. DC titles, yes. I do find DC's female heroes more fun to read, and I've been recently thinking about picking up Zatanna as I heard good things. 

In no way am I strictly a Marvel or DC kind of guy; I tend to drop and pick up on either side of the fence whenever I see fit. I do find the Marvel heroines fun to read, and I think they're great characters (Ms. Marvel being my favourite) but I have found it hard to pick up a book that is exclusively for one of Marvel's heroines. I've read pretty much anything with Spider-Woman, I was reading Ms Marvel's book for 12 issues, I read X-23 for a good six issues, I'm currently trying to track down She Hulks and anything else She Hulk related. On top of that my favourite X-Man was Rogue, with Magick, Pixie and Dani Moonstar as runners up, and I'm currently reading the Abnett and Lanning written New Mutants.

But all of those awesome Marvel Heroines I listed, I don't read about any more unless they are in a team book. I honestly just don't find the Marvel books written specifically for these super heroines to be that great (though I'm kicking myself for dropping Ms. Marvel). And I really, really want them to be (hence why I'm tracking down She Hulks, etc.). So this does, seriously beg the question: who is Marvel's leading lady? Because technically Marvel's "Big 3" are Captain American, Iron Man and Thor (though I still say the Spidey should be there too as a Big 4, but whatever. He's better when he's alone).

I think that Sue Storm would have to be listed as Marvel's main female Superhero since she embodies similar virtues as Wonder Woman. Both are touted as being incredibly powerful beings and are known for being ass-kickers. Despite that, my personal choice would HAVE to be Ms. Marvel. She is, in many ways, the Wonder Woman equal -- personality traits not withstanding. So she would be my pick. Hell, she's even led the Avengers. Also I might be a sucker for girls who can fly at supersonic speeds and hit things really hard -- but she basically has as many powers as Superman in the Silver Age and has the mind of a warrior tactician. She is Marvel's equal to Wonder Woman, and therefore my pick as Marvel's leading lady.
I have always been a big fan of the New Mutant characters - Karma, Magik and Mirage/Moonstar have very well defined personalities without being so similar.
#127 Edited by AlKusanagi (636 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as overall recognition of the character, I'd say Storm is Marvel's most iconic female, simply because of her appearances in movies, cartoon, and games which got followings globally even when the comics themselves didn't. I'd even argue she's the most famous comic female on a global scale.

PS. I'm not even a Storm fan, but as a comic fan that has lived internationally in countries where Marvel comics weren't available beyond Spider-Man and imports, people still knew Storm.

#128 Posted by Wattup (648 posts) - - Show Bio

Aunt May.

#129 Posted by Aqua11500 (2647 posts) - - Show Bio
Storm

Anyone remember Storm vs WW in the DC /Marvel crossover?The fight may have been fan voted,but the parings were decided by the companies coming together.

Besides Storm is Marvel's most well known superheroine.She has a huge following, portrayed in a series of animated series, video games, 3 live action movies and portrayed by Oscar wining African-
American actress Halle berry.

This bish even has her own little ride at Universal theme park and a perfume =P

runners up would be: Ms.Marvel,Jean and Sue..that's it!!..maybe Rogue.


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If we are just talking women in general then Mary Jane comes to mind :)

#130 Posted by BlackDove (375 posts) - - Show Bio

 
Storm. People who don't even read comics can give me an accurate description on who she is and what she can do.
#131 Posted by Mumbles (846 posts) - - Show Bio

sue or storm....if emma frost got another push for her own series, i think she could take the top spot.

#132 Posted by Foxman22 (57 posts) - - Show Bio

you almost have to define "most iconic."  for those of us who really follow the comics, hard to say.  if you mean most iconic in terms of pop culture, probably storm with sue storm a very close second.  props to rogue as well, esp since anna paquin is pretty well known know. 
#133 Posted by StaticFalconar (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark  phoenix all the way. She's included in MVC3 for a reason. 

#134 Posted by The Impersonator (5593 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh man. Don't even mention about the Elektra movie. I do like the character though but Jennifer Garner did it injustice.

#135 Posted by not2baad (550 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm is my favorite . Then She-Hulk ,Jean Grey ,Kitty Pride and Ms. Marvel who I am just starting to like with so many different powers. Also Black Widow and Mary Jane for herself and also  a Lois Lane of Marvel.


#136 Posted by Enyalios (142 posts) - - Show Bio
@jubilee042
Storm fought Wonder Woman in the crossover, but only won because the fans voted it, not because anyone in their right mind thinks she actually has a chance. 
#137 Posted by Enyalios (142 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm, Jean Grey, etc etc can never be considered iconic female characters, sorry to break people's hearts here, but the only reason Storm or Jean Grey are known is because of their roles on the X-Men.  Sue Storm only because of her role on the Fantastic Four.  None of these characters can stand on their own.  Being known and being iconic are not the same thing.  None of these characters can stand on their own.  A book dedicated to Storm, Jean Grey, Sue Storm, or nearly any of the characters listed would last no more than 4 issues and would be canceled.  These characters are simply too team-grounded.  Storm's big move from the X-Men involved her getting married to someone who can hold his own book.   
#138 Posted by forsake (63 posts) - - Show Bio

 
Storm

#139 Posted by Kenjav (155 posts) - - Show Bio
@JonesDeini said:
@SC said:
Its not strange at all that its so hard to identify Marvel's most iconic female character. The complete opposite if anything, it should be expected. As far as shared Universes go, having an easily identifiable most iconic anything in such a broad sense, is total, total failure and the day Marvel has an easily identifiable female character is the day they should start selling soap to animals. Another similar thread so to paraphrase myself because I am too lazy. 

"Marvel can't have a Wonder Woman, nor should they try to, because too many of its female characters actually are competitive with each other, in terms of presence, popularity, and as to how iconic and synonymous they are with the company. The day Marvel has a Wonder Woman, is the day Marvel fails. Having one sole female character people can look up to and appreciate is not a good thing when you can have 3 or 4 of them. 
Plus Superman was a huge part of Wonder Woman's existence. A lot of male characters are derivative of other male characters, just female characters were unfortunate to have this emphasized with their names. I mean, imagine if Sabretooth was called Blonde Wolverine, would that change the character? Not really, just the perception of the character, then that might change his character over time. People who have the time to look can she She Hulk is awesome, and that Storm is more than the X-Men. 

Marvel doesn't need a Wonder Woman, and DC shouldn't want one either. Why have a Wonder Woman, when you can have a Wonder Woman, Cassandra Cain, Oracle, Power Girl, Huntress, Big Barda, Scandal Savage, Vixen, etc. Marvel is the same. Why have a Wonder Woman, when they got Sue, Storm, Jean, Rogue, Black Widow, Elektra, Ms Marvel, Sentry and She Hulk!" 

Iconic can be pretty broad term, and looking over the thread there is plenty of very compelling evidence and intelligent arguments/reasons for a number of characters. This is a good thing. 
Most excellently said!
Agreed. Beautiful.
#140 Posted by uroboros (140 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love to say Ms Marvel but I know that not many people outside of comics know who she is and I wish they would work on rectifying that. But they wont.

#141 Edited by Dr_Cheesesteak (44 posts) - - Show Bio
@darkrider said:

 no one  marvel doesn't have iconic female Character like dc 

qft, really.

But I'd argue Storm.  In the 90s she was big due to the X-Men's success, the 3 X-movies put her to a bigger status (hello?  played by the biggest actress at the time).  I could see arguments for Sue and Jean Grey, possibly even She-Hulk or Rogue.  And it seems Marvel is trying to push Black Widow, Spider-Woman, and Ms. Marvel.  But let's be realistic.  It's Storm.
#142 Posted by SuperXAsh (526 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm... interesting question. It seems like Marvel's been trying to revitalize their big-name female characters (She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman, etc.). In the public sector thoug, the mainstream, t's probably a toss-up between She-Hulk, Storm, Elektra, and Invisible Woman. Storm became known because of her repeated appearances in the various cartoons over the years, as well as the movies. Same with Invisible Woman (cartoons and movies), but sadly neither or really what would could consider ICONIC. Sue's largely tied to the Fantastic Four, (thus has to share the spotlight) and Storm's been (IMHO) mishandled since the 90's ended. Elektra's well known (when she's hanging out with Daredevil) and respected, (for the most part) but her movie was mishandled completely.

 

She-Hulk's probably the only one of the three who's had some successful (and critically acclaimed) solo comic runs. But she's yet to be in a movie.

 

I'd love to see Ms. Marvel in a movie. She's become so different from her original namesake (Capt. Marvel) that she could hold her own movie... if given a chance.

#143 Posted by OracleX (294 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it an interesting case of Wonder Woman Vs. all Marvel women. Wonder Woman was specifically created to be icon for men and women to look up to during World War II. Writers struggle to come up with stories because she is more god-like than human. All of the characters at Marvel seem to have human flaws (and oedipal thing they did to Miss. Marvel was completely insane).

My choice: Rescue! (Pepper Potts)

#144 Posted by Aqua11500 (2647 posts) - - Show Bio
@StaticFalconar said:
Dark  phoenix all the way. She's included in MVC3 for a reason. 
fan wank.
#145 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
@moviegeek17 said:
you don't necessarily need one iconic female character for marvel. Just several well written ones. I thought the black widow series was excellent while it last (ps marvel please bring it back) and currently the x23 series is very entertaining. in general though all these characters need is a great writer to give them some terrific stories.
I absolutely loved Liu's Black Widow, and Swierczynski's run was also very solid, but I knew as soon as Widow Maker started it was over for that title :(

Man, if X-23 had been half as good as Liu's widow I wouldn't of dropped it. 
#146 Posted by newmutants45 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm, Invisible Woman, and Jean Grey are most iconic, not necesarrily in that order), Ms. Marvel is the closest to Wonder Woman as far as abilities goes, and as for personal favorites I would have to say Kitty Pryde, Illyana Rasputin, and Hope Summers

#147 Posted by DarcStorm (244 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman SUCKS...and Storm kicks her ass any second of eternity. Therefor Marvel doesn't need a wasted character like Wonder Woman when they have SO many females that are FAR better.

#148 Edited by Gallivant (55 posts) - - Show Bio

i also agree with @SC, that is well said and really should be true. Yet we have to understand why Wonder Woman is so iconic in the first place. I'm not sure who was the first female hero for DC but it very well could have been Wonder Woman herself. Lets look at what made her so iconic.

She is a leader, she is independent, she is strong and can stand her ground with just about any male hero. Also we have to realize to be iconic means they stand for something bigger. Just like Captain America or Superman. Being a positive role model also helps with this.

With that said we have to see who has those types of qualities on the marvel side. Then we can make a strong conclusion as to who would be considered as the most iconic.

#149 Posted by TheRedFear (51 posts) - - Show Bio

So if you don't read comics with female leading characters, it's because you're such a weak-willed wussy boy that imaginary females with power intimidates you....OR...it's because the mysoginistic comicbook industry promotes the male characters better?

 

Here's an alternative for you to consider, that doesn't instantly render me a mysoginist, or a simpleton.

 

When I read a comic, I like to get a breif vicarious thrill by imagining myself as the title character. I like to imagine myself as the one who punched Darkseid's lights out, or it's me who just reignited the sun with my heatvision.

 

I don't much care to imagine myself in a battle-bikini, swinging my Double D's all over the place. So while I enjoy scantily clad comic women when they appear in other titles, they are not the primary reason I buy comics. I buy comics for a breif moment of fantasy escapism.

 

Now i'm sure there are more than a few men in the world who enjoy imagining themselves as women. That's between them and their psycho/sexual-therapists.

 

I...and I assume, a majority of the buying public...do not.

 

Incidently, that's probably why the overwhelming majority of comic heroes who are minorities don't sell well either, though I think that's a tad more inexcusable. It's hard for you to imagine yourself in an opposite gender role, but it shouldn't be such a leap to imagine yourself in another skin color role.

#150 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma Frost all the way!

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