Yeah what your saying about Merchendising makes alot of sense, most of moive merchendise is aimed at kids any way.

Look at The Dark Knight and Batman Begins, they werent kids movies, as such, yet they still managed to make the toys and bed sheets ect ect, so i think it will work out well. they wont make movies for Kids, theyll still be watchable for older people, maybe just less violence and sex, and they can still make money and maybe continue the Franchise....Makes sense to me!!!

Seems like a smart movie on Marvel's part, but he said they won't focus on R rated movies. Doesn't mean they won't make them, they might just be direct to DVD. Which I don't have a problem with some direct to DVD movies are pretty good.

tellya what, marvel reminds me of Dr. Oethker

"tellya what, marvel reminds me of Dr. Oethker
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You can do dark movies without making them R. Generally when they make a movie R it just downgrades it cause they throw a whole bunch of langeuage in it and lots of blood, etc. None of it usually needed.

There was a 2nd Punisher movie?

"You can do dark movies without making them R. Generally when they make a movie R it just downgrades it cause they throw a whole bunch of langeuage in it and lots of blood, etc. None of it usually needed.
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"There was a 2nd Punisher movie?"

Hurm. Look at "300" It was an R-Rated movie. As violent and gritty as it gets it managed to succeed in the box office, the reason? The budget wasn't that big and if it was a bomb at the theaters it wouldn't have been a "scandal" about it... What i'm saying is, please... Do not abandon future R-Rated projects, just attach the right people on it AND give it a thought or two after inking deals.

lol, lame.

I could go either way on this......so whatever. Just make good movies.

I don't think a movie has to be rated R just to be good. Joker was allowed to jam a pencil into a dude's eye and it wasn't R rated. The majority of Marvel comics aren't "R rated" either.  Like I said, they're not going to making only Power Pack movies.  Most "horror" movies these days are PG-13.  It just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

a movie doesn't have to be rated R to be good.....look at all the successful comic movies before this....the problem with war zone wasn't that it was rated R the problem was it was a terrible movie

Well if anyone needs a reminder:

http://www.comicvine.com/punisher/29-1525/g-man-redlamp-bring-you-punisher-warzone-footage/92-378547/

This is sad news to me because I was hoping to see Carnage (symbiote) on the big screen, but with no Rated R movies they better not even try now.

Maybe they should take a hint from their comics and create Marvel MAX Movie productions, this will allow them to show the dark side of Marvel, like MoonKnight, Marvel Zombies, Dead Pool, and even Howard the Duck.

"Voidheart said:

"tellya what, marvel reminds me of Dr. Oethker
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WHAT???

As in the food company????"

"This is sad news to me because I was hoping to see Carnage (symbiote) on the big screen, but with no Rated R movies they better not even try now.

Maybe they should take a hint from their comics and create Marvel MAX Movie productions, this will allow them to show the dark side of Marvel, like MoonKnight, Marvel Zombies, Dead Pool, and even Howard the Duck.
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If Captain America and Deathlok aren't going to be rated R.I can't see them being any good.

As long as they don't have too little violence in it it's okay.

This makes sense.  No studio should focus on making R-rated movies, but they shouldn't prevent movies that couldn't be anything else from being R-rated.  I thought the Punisher movies were true to the brutal nature of Punisher and that's what made them enjoyable.  And Watchmen and 300 had to be R to be what they are.  If you stripped away the grittiness of those movies that the R content provides they would be much worse, but there's good PG-13 movies too.
I can't fault them for doing this for merchandising purposes because I want them to make money so they can keep making comic hero movies.
And besides, there's still quite a bit allowed in PG-13 movies.  No nudity, but that's barely ever crucial to the story anyway.

I'm sure it's a matter of "never say never."  Marvel has their hands full over the next few years with Iron Man 2, Spider-Man 4, Thor, Captain America and The Avengers.  There's also the rumored Ant-Man and other Nick Fury/SHEILD movie.  

"If Captain America and Deathlok aren't going to be rated R.I can't see them being any good."

No more R rated movies? Well that is a bummer cause some marvel franchises could be sweet to seen done violently. Oh well

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After the...disappointment of "Punisher War Zone," this doesn't really come as much of a surprise.  Marvel Entertainment's Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors, Peter Cuneo stated that Marvel will not be focusing on doing R rated movies.  He considers them to be "off strategy."  Marvel also wants to do "Triple Threat" movies, movies that can generate profits with other merchandise as well. 

From a business standpoint it makes sense.  You can't really have Punisher bedsheets or party decorations.   Yet, someone as brutal as Wolverine can and will be plastered all over assorted merchandise.  I'm sure some people will be upset by this but they're not saying they will only make G rated kiddie movies.  Superheroes do appeal to younger viewers and it would just be ignorant to try to shut out those potential viewers. 

We also have to consider that the more money they generate on the glut of merchandise gives them more reasons to give us more movies.  Look at Iron Man.  He was a weapons supplier.  He drank alcohol.  He...enjoyed the ladies.  But because they could sell action figures and sneakers with Iron Man on them, it's a no-brainer to finance the sequel. 

So maybe we won't get the violent Moon Knight feature (not that one was being planned) but you have to look at who the audience is.  Even Watchmen appears to be suffereing due to it's 'adult nature' and rating.  What are your thoughts?
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Punisher being R-rated didn't kill Punisher, Punisher sucking killed Punisher.

That said other than Moon Knight, I don't see how any upcoming Marvel properties movies would work as R-rated. R-rated Ant-Man?

Perv factor, yes

No Marvel Zombies?  :(   Seems mervel is taking further and further steps to make their comics/films family friendly. O well.

"Punisher being R-rated didn't kill Punisher, Punisher sucking killed Punisher.

That said other than Moon Knight, I don't see how any upcoming Marvel properties movies would work as R-rated. R-rated Ant-Man?
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"Punisher being R-rated didn't kill Punisher, Punisher sucking killed Punisher.

That said other than Moon Knight, I don't see how any upcoming Marvel properties movies would work as R-rated. R-rated Ant-Man?
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"Shatterstar said:

"Punisher being R-rated didn't kill Punisher, Punisher sucking killed Punisher.

That said other than Moon Knight, I don't see how any upcoming Marvel properties movies would work as R-rated. R-rated Ant-Man?
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Sure.  They could also make it R rated and have her drop the towel.  The point is, I don't think not having R rated comic book movies is a big deal.  And as I said, if something darker came along to being made into a movie, I'm sure they would alter this policy.

Marvel Comics are made for kids. I thought Joe Q made this clear when he designed OMD. It makes sense that they don't want to make 'R' rated movies.

Also, the new Punisher flick was awesome. I don't know what everyone else was watching/expecting.

Yeah people just don't know how to make a punisher movie.

If they make Punisher PG-13 I'm gunna throw a fit! But Wolverine PG-13 I can kinda see way but then again he should be R instead. Like Dark Horse got the damn AVP movie rated PG-13 and that pissed me off. How can two of sci-fi's scariest monster be rated PG-13 when there other movies were R, it ruined everything about Aliens and Predator! They can't make Wolverine PG-13 nor can they do that to Punisher.  

Honestly nudity and language seem to be the biggest factors in making movies R and we dont need a whole lot of ewither so its not that big of a deal.

Hey now let's not jump the gun here folks, I disagree who says we don't need nudity. I mean who doesn't want to see Gwenyth get naked as Pepper. I know I'll pay to see that. :)

Well one, they are NOT about to spend millions of dollars for a movie to go straight to DVD. Two, Punisher 2 sucked because it simply wasn't good. And three, who says you need all that sex and nudity in the first place? That's why Watchmen did so bad, no one wants to see a neck blue man through the whole film, as well wild and crazy sex scenes. Some things things just aren't necessary, I think that's where some of these films go wrong.

An interesting note, Warner Bros is basically saying the same thing now.  IESB reported that they do not plan on making any R Rated "Superhero/Tentpole" movies.  Watchmen was good but because of its rating, a lot of people were turned away.

O well, pg13 is where the $ is at!

"Hey now let's not jump the gun here folks, I disagree who says we don't need nudity. I mean who doesn't want to see Gwenyth get naked as Pepper. I know I'll pay to see that. :)"

Black Cat in Spider-man.

"sir all the seats in the cinema are sticky"

"uhh, tell em we put on a horror before hand and its just drying coke"

Can't they just focus on Spider-man ?

I think its great that they've stopped doing R rated films.

"Well that Sucks
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untrue. Deathlok is in production and its rated R.