Most Intelligent Marvel Women?

#1 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay Marvel has Reed Richards, Iron Man, Black Panther, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, Hank Mccoy, Hulk, Spider-Man as some of the most intelligent characters. What about intelligent women? The only one I can think of with a genius level i.q. is Kitty Pryde. Any others?

#2 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

I can think of plenty of smart Marvel Woman but not really any known specifically for being smart.

Weird.

#3 Edited by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

Well... Ultimate Sue Storm is a biologist...

I think that Lady Stilt-man made her own suit.

#4 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool: That is true. She is a scientist in the Ultimate universe.

#5 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite: There is a topic in the battle forum about second tier intelligent characters. I noticed that neither in the top tier or the second tier was there a woman mentioned. So I was just wondering. Alyssa Moy that is friends with Reed Richards is a genius. But she isn't really a hero or anything.

#6 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy: It's weird. Hopefully I just don't know about the female geniuses in the MU.

#7 Edited by Yung ANcient One (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

Kitty is a genius now? Since when? (+)

EDIT:

PS

I thought Sue has been a Scientist since forever.

#8 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Ms. Marvel, Emma Frost and Jean Grey aren't too shabby but they're not really known for intelligence

#10 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yung ANcient One: Kitty has always had a genius level i.q. since she was created. 616 Sue has never been a scientist.

#12 Posted by Prodigy P (156 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot brought Valeria Richards to my attention. She is very smart.

#14 Posted by Agent9149 (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma Frost.

#15 Posted by SC (12702 posts) - - Show Bio

Regular Sue Storm is supposed to be incredibly intelligent and is written as such in many stories, then you have Alyssa Moy, Athena, Val Richards, Kavita Rao, Suzi Endo, Monica Rappicini, Kitty, Moira McTaggart, Monet, Sage, Maya Hansen, and Nightshade and i could go on AND well the biggest problem here is certain writers who want to ironically dumb down intelligence as a trait and pander to comic fans love of lists and ranking characters against each other you get stories with supposedly the 8 smartest people on the Earth who are conveniently really popular characters who are noted for being smart, when yeah, not how intelligence really works as far as comparisons and listings and you end up with stories that perpetuate such - I'll save my rant. lol

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#16 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC: Thank you. I forgot about a lot of these characters. Suzi Endo is Cybermancer right? Totally forgot about Moira too.

#17 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy: If Sue isn't a scientist why did she go on the space trip with Reed? I know Ben was the Pilot, and thought Reed plus Sue were the Scientist. Johnny was the only useless one, or so I thought. (+)

#18 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah, that explains a lot, freakin' X-characters. Love 'em but there's waaaaaaaay too many to keep track of.

At least there are some really smart girls in the MU.

#19 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yung ANcient One: Because Sue was his girlfriend. She has never been a scientist except in the Ultimate universe.

#20 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

@Prodigy P said:

Valeria Richards

I forgot about her!!! Damn I feel like an idiot, maybe its because her age.

@Agent9149 said:

Emma Frost.

Oh really?

#21 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite: I agree. I just thought it was weird I could not think of them.

#22 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy said:

@Decoy Elite: I agree. I just thought it was weird I could not think of them.

Doesn't help that Marvel's probably killed plenty of them for drama.

#23 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

My world has just turned upside down. Kitty's a genius, and Sue is... wait... so what did Sue do for income? (+)

#24 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite: Lol. Well a lot of these characters mentioned are supporting characters.

#25 Posted by SC (12702 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy said:

@SC: Thank you. I forgot about a lot of these characters. Suzi Endo is Cybermancer right? Totally forgot about Moira too.

Yes very good, also The Seeker recently.

@charlieboy said:

@Yung ANcient One: Because Sue was his girlfriend. She has never been a scientist except in the Ultimate universe.

In a few Fantastic Four stories some writers have tried to insert the idea that is incredibly intelligent, and if she prioritized her goals as such she would have been one of the greatest scientists/minds of her generation. It also meant that Reed actually had someone intelligent enough in a partner to bounce complex and difficult ideas off of which sort of sounds healthier than Reed and Sue being intellectually incompatible with each other, but above plot character aspects can tend to be forgotten or ignored by some writers.

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#26 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC: I am not saying Sue isn't smart. She just has never been a scientist in the 616 universe. She is a smart and very capable heroine.

#27 Posted by SC (12702 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy said:

@SC: I am not saying Sue isn't smart. She just has never been a scientist in the 616 universe. She is a smart and very capable heroine.

Oh my apologies, I wasn't trying to imply either all, just throw in generally why some might feel Sue is underestimated intelligence wise against the backdrop of her fluctuating writer perception. ^_^

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#28 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC: Hey do you know what comic Suzi becomes the Seeker in? I did not know about that.

#29 Posted by SC (12702 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy said:

@SC: Hey do you know what comic Suzi becomes the Seeker in? I did not know about that.

Sure!! The last Silver Surfer mini series written by Greg Pak.

Let me see if I can find it on CV...

Silver Surfer. I think thats it - was released 2011 I believe.

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#30 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yung ANcient One: I believe Sue was trying to become and actress or model or something to that effect. I am surprised you didn't know about Kitty. She has always been portrayed that way. Not in some of the cartoons and such. But always in X-Men and Excalibur.

#31 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC: Thank you. I liked her when I read Force Works but I did not know she was still being used.

#32 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

Reed actually had someone intelligent enough in a partner to bounce complex and difficult ideas off of

^Thats^ exactly what I always thought. Reed, plus Sue were scientist that bounced complex ideas with each other, and they fell in love. I know she's not a scientist, but that's what I always thought. (+)

#33 Posted by SuperSlayin (67 posts) - - Show Bio

Shout out for Jennifer Walters, A.K.A. She-Hulk

#34 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@SuperSlayin: True. Shulkie is a lawyer. That takes a lot of intelligence.

#35 Posted by marvellover1 (373 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark phoenix

#36 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2767 posts) - - Show Bio

hope summers---she made a device that made cerebro think she was in five different directions in avx!!!!!!

#37 Posted by snyderman567 (152 posts) - - Show Bio

@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

hope summers---she made a device that made cerebro think she was in five different directions in avx!!!!!!

Thats a stupid reason for why she is the smartest women in the Marvel universe.

#38 Posted by Teerack (5349 posts) - - Show Bio

Valeria Richards easily. She might even be smarter then her dad and she's still a little kid.

#39 Posted by catfightfan (567 posts) - - Show Bio

(1) Valeria Richards

(2) Alyssa Moy

After these two, the rest are probably a step below. Still, I will vote for Medusa as #3.

#40 Posted by Son_of_simba (681 posts) - - Show Bio

@catfightfan: lady death exists outside of time shes gotta be as smart as some of the high tire cosmic entities

#41 Posted by Bouzingo (9 posts) - - Show Bio

I think if she wasn't paired with Reed Richards, Sue Storm would be considered highly intelligent in her own right. It takes a pretty polished intellect to live with Mr. Fantastic I think.

Emma Frost and Moira MacTaggart are definitely overlooked in terms of intelligence.

Apex from Squadron Supreme is the only female character I can think of whose major characteristic is super smarts, which is definitely weird.

It seems intelligent female characters are more likely to be life/strategy smart (ex. Natasha Romanov) than to exhibit a cold intellect.

#42 Posted by PowerHerc (81637 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Sage
  • Moondragon
  • Roma
  • Vindicator
  • Phoenix
#43 Posted by Mutant God (3020 posts) - - Show Bio

Superia

#44 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4253 posts) - - Show Bio
Moon Dragon
Kitty Pryde
Monet
Jocasta
Moira MacTaggart

#45 Posted by MarlboroMan (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as i know Valeria Richards is by far the smartest female in the Marvel

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