In general, whats the fan consensus on Ultimate Marvel??

#1 Posted by feargalr (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Im currently reading through all of it, I just finished ultimatum (No spoilers please! Aside from what we all know about Miles Morales...) I usually only go on comic vine to check out the news and the occasional review and really don't visit the forums here or anywhere else with comic stuff.... but basically what do people think about the Ultimate Marvel universe? I really enjoy it.... just cos its a lot tighter then regular continuity, like the writers know the story from the outset and they're able to trim the fat .. and I love that characters can be killed off and stuff can change and it won't always be changed back ten minutes later ya know.... which from what I understand seems to be a fan issue in the main continuity (at least I know something happened way back when with clone wars and ben reilly being the real spiderman or something like that?). Also I love how the continuity isn't convoluted was massive universe changing events (at least compared to regular continuity, but thats down to it being younger) that being said I do really enjoy the mainstream continuity but sometimes its like come on just stay dead already!!!!!!!

#2 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel that it's desperate, and tends to get rid of way too many good people in the dumbest ways. It was REALLY enjoyable at one point for me. But now, I get angry when I see some of the newest plot developments. I do appreciate the darker tones though. You never really know which person is safe or not. But I feel that there are better ways of adding drama than by abusing that sense of suspense associated with permanent death. Especially when several of the Ultimate characters were actually a beautiful breather from the drama that is the 616 universe. Same with Exiles.

#3 Edited by Or35ti (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel it's a lot more grounded than Marvel's mainstream continuity and more realistic (as far as realism goes in comics of such caliber). and like you said, it's great how someone can die or something tragic can happen and we can actually see the world affected by the loss and not have it return 18 months later (or even less). If Cap's shield breaks in the Ultimate U, it's staying broken, unlike Earth-616 (See Fear Itself). But I think it's great and if you can afford Marvel's ridiculous prices (something which I have trouble with) stick with it. The new titles sound especially interesting :)

#4 Posted by Jake Fury (18116 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm reading the new Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men and really enjoy them.

#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

In a nutshell? It started off fantastically. Then it slipped. Then it slipped A LOT. Then it twas garbage. Now I just don't care about it.

#6 Posted by joshmightbe (24601 posts) - - Show Bio

I HATE Ultimate Marvel, they turned Cap into a Xenophobic a$$hole, Thor into a crazy person, Hulk into a cannibal and Wolverine into an even bigger douche than he is in the 616. I'm ok with realism but did they have to turn every damn super hero into a sociopath?

#7 Posted by DeadpoolvIronFist (2416 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the Ultimate Universe.

#8 Posted by _jackbauer (157 posts) - - Show Bio

The new spider-man book managed to hook me for month-to-month reads. As "extreme" as the ultimate universe sounds (as described by people in this thread and others I have read), the new ultimate spider-man title is surprisingly approachable, thoughtful, and enjoyable. Miles isn't just another typical know-it-all, ultra-enthusiastic, attention-whoring, nose-running teenager; he's a genuinely likeable, modest, and relatable character.

#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32675 posts) - - Show Bio

It started of awesome, then it got crap, then it realy carp, now its back to being awesome again :)

#10 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Ultimatum was good. Then it became crap. Now its getting better, in a wierd way.

#11 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5772 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved Ultimate X-Men when it first came out, but later on, it started to get so bad. I haven't read the newest Ultimate X-Men yet.

#12 Posted by catfightfan (567 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the Ultimate Universe concept, but am still distressed that they cancelled Ultimate Fantastic Four.

#13 Posted by War Killer (19963 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I'm enjoying the Ultimate Universe more than the mainstream universe, and one of the biggest reason why is because I've finally gotten sick and tried of things happening on Earth-616, huge epic things, only for them to revert back to what they were just a few months before. As well, I'm enjoying the fact that most of all, things are actually changing and we're seeing progression in the universe instead of the same old status que. Personally I think that's one of the biggest things hurting Marvel currently with their mainstream titles is that they're doing all of these big changes only to revert back to what was before only a few months later and it's honestly getting tiresome at this point. There's only so many times you can hear about an event that will "change everything!" only to feel cheated and ripped off as only a few months after said event things are exactly back to the way they were...

#14 Posted by Lexino (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Marvel is how I got into reading Marvel, and I really enjoyed it, until Ultimatum, when it just got extreme and crazy, then after that it was ok, then Fallout and its following series are great, so it kinda redeemed itself. Now I read 616 series too.

I would love Ultimate Fantastic Four to come back, but I don't see how, seeing that Mr Fantastic went...you know.

#15 Posted by NX (307 posts) - - Show Bio
@White Mage said:


                   

I feel that it's desperate, and tends to get rid of way too many good people in the dumbest ways. It was REALLY enjoyable at one point for me. But now, I get angry when I see some of the newest plot developments. I do appreciate the darker tones though. You never really know which person is safe or not. But I feel that there are better ways of adding drama than by abusing that sense of suspense associated with permanent death. Especially when several of the Ultimate characters were actually a beautiful breather from the drama that is the 616 universe. Same with Exiles.



                   

               

I agree with that post. 100%
#16 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:

Pre Ultimatum was good. Then it became crap. Now its getting better, in a wierd way.

This but it's still not as good as pre Ultimatum.
#17 Posted by Daveyo520 (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

It is good.

#18 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCrowbar said:
@ReVamp said:

Pre Ultimatum was good. Then it became crap. Now its getting better, in a wierd way.

This but it's still not as good as pre Ultimatum.
Ditto.
#19 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

It started out great but has kinda lost it's way.

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