no powers, no weapons, nothing but training and natural ability...this is my list so far: 
  
definitely
- logan 
- matt murdock 
- elektra natchios 
- natasha romanov 
- steve rogers 
- bucky barnes 
- daken 
- laura kinney 
- t'challa 

maybe? 
- raven darkholme
- nathan summers 
- frank castle 
- ka-zar 
- luke cage 
- iron fist 
- nick fury 
- victor creed (though it's hard to imagine him without his powers...would he still be huge?) 
- wade wilson 
- silver samurai 
- betsy braddock 
- bullseye

Best at H2H if Powerless

Shang Chi
Mantis 
Danny Rand

Bullseye is way up there. He can go toe to toe with Daredevil and Elektra simultaneously, and even Taskmaster is afraid of him.

Gamora 
Mantis 
Midnight Sun 
Champion

i'm not that familiar with taskmaster, mantis, gamora, midnight sun, or champion...have they all had extensive training, or are they just natural-born fighters? 
 
i also thought about moon knight as a maybe, but i don't know enough about him to judge his fighting chops.

" no powers, no weapons, nothing but training and natural ability...this is my list so far: 
  
definitely
- logan 
- matt murdock 
- elektra natchios 
- natasha romanov 
- steve rogers 
- bucky barnes 
- daken 
- laura kinney 
- t'challa 

maybe? - raven darkholme- nathan summers - frank castle - ka-zar - luke cage - iron fist - nick fury - victor creed (though it's hard to imagine him without his powers...would he still be huge?) - wade wilson - silver samurai - betsy braddock - bullseye "

@Vance Astro:  
 
Don't be so humble. Post the link to that awesome list you made a few months ago. 

• Steve Rogers
• Iron Fist
• Shang-Chi
• Gamora
• Wolverine
• Sabretooth (Age of Apocalypse)
• Elektra
• Daredevil
• Black Widow
• Mantis
• Black Panther
• Bucky Barnes
• Moon Knight
• Nick Fury
• Punisher
• 
  

Cappy

lol Was Iron Fist really in the "maybe" category?  It's Iron Fist, maybe Shang Chi. 1a and 1b.
 
No mention of the Prince of Orphans?!?!  He's up there with them I think.  Elektra is just below them.

it would be awesome if all of these guys got de-powered then got sent into some gladiator-style arena to battle it out...

" @Vance Astro:   Don't be so humble. Post the link to that awesome list you made a few months ago.  "

" Shang chi is the best. Take the powers and enhancements away from the others and he wins 10/10. "

iron fist and shang chi are the top two. prince of orphans is up there too, and wolverine. without powers it's probably between iron fist and shang chi. shang chi is great and iron fist is the master of martial arts, including off world ones.

" @CaptainJustice said:

" Shang chi is the best. Take the powers and enhancements away from the others and he wins 10/10. "

I like how people think things like this when Shang Chi has never done nothing to prove this. "

He has done plenty to prove it. He has fought many super-powered foes and enormous wild animals and top-tier martial artists toe to toe without any powers or enhancements and won most of the time. "

" @CaptainJustice said:

He has done plenty to prove it. He has fought many super-powered foes and enormous wild animals and top-tier martial artists toe to toe without any powers or enhancements and won most of the time. "

All of the things you named..every street leveler has done.Also Shang Chi has enhancements. "

Wait prodigy would up there, thanks to the stepford girls Cindee, bimbo and Blondy, he know every thing of all the people he came in contact with, and that means he would be crazy h2h 

" @Vance Astro said:

" @CaptainJustice said:

He has done plenty to prove it. He has fought many super-powered foes and enormous wild animals and top-tier martial artists toe to toe without any powers or enhancements and won most of the time. "

All of the things you named..every street leveler has done.Also Shang Chi has enhancements. "

These "street-levelers" did these things with enhancements and/or powers and/or weapons/gadgets. Shang chi did it with Kung Fu only. Shang chi does not have any enhancements only Kung Fu skill and training. "

" @Vance Astro: Wait, what "enhancments" does Shang-Chi have? As for a shot list *not in any order, or complete just off the top of my head*; Shang-Chi, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Punisher, Steve Rogers, Elektra, Bullseye, Iron Fist, Black Panther (T'Challa), *top of head is now empty.......* "

" That post is completely true. "

How the heck is Iron Fist a maybe?

" @Vance Astro: When he uses his chi, it is no where close to Iron Fists, it's not so "mystical".  Even with out that, they are still two of the top fighters in the M.U.  "

" @Vance Astro: Besides being "The Master of Kung-Fu", your right, Shang is low on feats to compare with the big boys cause he's always been either a second tier ,or lower, character.  And when he was up there in his own series, he was more grounded than your typical hero fare.Doesn't take away the fact he is one of the best h2h fighters, you put him in the ring with other de-powered characters and he could defeat them.  "

" @Vance Astro: For this thread, everyone is depowered (says so in the OP), and IMO, Shang deserves to be on it.  You can argue if you want, but he's up there with the rest. "

Fat Cobra - He really knows how to use leverage and his weight, for a great ratio of power to speed effectiveness.  
Hercules - He approaches fights with a light heart but heavy fists, he created a pretty cool fighting style as well. 
Davos - Like an angrier less skilled Iron Fist. When fighting ten or more ninja's, anger can be an asset rather than the impediment it would be against a guy like Iron Fist. I give him points for that.  
Random Kree guy from a cave on a Skrull World. - You did say whole of Marvel. This guy has no feats yet, hell, he doesn't even have a name, or appearance in a comic, but he has spent 200 years learning a forbidden Skrull joint Kree fight style, that is almost infallible mainly due to him being dropped on his head, when he was 2, developing an injury that has developed the uh fight part of his uh brain to levels never seen anywhere else... ever...

" @Donovan Montgomery said:

" @Vance Astro: For this thread, everyone is depowered (says so in the OP), and IMO, Shang deserves to be on it.  You can argue if you want, but he's up there with the rest. "

What I am saying is skills have nothing to do with powers.If you were going to prove that Daredevil,Captain America,Iron Fist,Elektra,Black Widow,Wolverine etc. were good fighters you would have to mention instances where they used "powers or enhancements" but that doesn't take away their skill.If you take away Wolverine's healing factor..you think Shang Chi would have a better chance of beating him? Wolverine has already beaten him without using it. "

Why would I have to do this (bold) if I'm talking about their fighting prowress?  I think even without his senses (give him his sight back), witch is his biggest advantage in a fight,  DD is still a great fighter.  I did not say Shang was unbeatable, I said he belongs on the list of best fighters in Marvel.  "

" Steve Rogers does not deserve to be on this list. "

" @Vitality said:

" Steve Rogers does not deserve to be on this list. "

-_- "

Mystique should be promoted to definitely! She's an excellent fighter not to mention a total hard-ass. She was gutted and left for dead naked in the desert and still lives to tell the story!

 She was gutted and left for dead naked in the desert and still lives to tell the story! "

"@Alurvelve:
@Vance Astro:  
You can't be mad...it's true. 
This is quoted from the OP: "no powers, no weapons, nothing but training and natural ability"  His abilities are completely unnatural.  If it wasn't for the serum running through his veins he would be a skinny little man. "

"If it wasn't for the serum running through his veins he would be a skinny little man. "

" @Alurvelve:
@Vance Astro:  
You can't be mad...it's true. 
This is quoted from the OP: "no powers, no weapons, nothing but training and natural ability"  His abilities are completely unnatural.  If it wasn't for the serum running through his veins he would be a skinny little man. "

"@Vitality said:

" @Alurvelve:
@Vance Astro:  
You can't be mad...it's true. 
This is quoted from the OP: "no powers, no weapons, nothing but training and natural ability"  His abilities are completely unnatural.  If it wasn't for the serum running through his veins he would be a skinny little man. "

He wasn't trained in combat by the super soldier serum.His strength and speed have nothing to do with skill. Also i'm not and wasn't mad.I know what you're saying is false,I posted what I did because people continuously come in here and display a lack of knowledge. "

I don't understand how it is false.  His strength, speed, agility...basically all his physical/natural attributes are increased by the serum. Which means it's not his natural ability.  How is that false? "

" @Vitality said:

I don't understand how it is false.  His strength, speed, agility...basically all his physical/natural attributes are increased by the serum. Which means it's not his natural ability.  How is that false? "

You don't understand how it's false because you don't read his comics.I shouldn't have to explain this to you.It's common knowledge that Captain America is SKILLED with or without the serum and what part of..speed and strength have nothing to do with skill missed you? "

" @Vitality said:

" Steve Rogers does not deserve to be on this list. "

-_- "

"You're correct...I do not read his comics."