8 smartest in Marvel ?

#1 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

rank the smartest people in marvel in either smartest or how you think they should be

#2 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Reed

2.Doom

(Now it gets blurry. Someone educate me!)

3.Banner

4.Tony

5.Pym

6.Peter

7.Hank

8.T'Challa

Alright someone correct me :)

#3 Posted by Lokheit (492 posts) - - Show Bio

@spinningbirdcake said:

1.Reed

2.Doom

(Now it gets blurry. Someone educate me!)

3.Banner

4.Tony

5.Pym

6.Peter

7.Hank

8.T'Challa

Alright someone correct me :)

I think Amadeus Cho would be over T'Challa (wasn't he ranked one of the 5 or 7 most intelligent people on earth? I don' remember the number). Also Hank Pym may be over Tony and Banner as he was named Scientistic Supreme by I-don't-remember-what cosmic force, but that was more about him being an explorer of science and using it like magic more than actually being more intelligent than the others (I think I remember him asking why Reed or Stark didn't get that title when it was given to him).

I think that was the same list the leader and the intelligentia targeted as the most intelligent guys.

#4 Posted by joshuagamer (636 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter is definitely the least intelligent one on that list (which means he's not even on the list, due to the fact that BP is confirmed as #8). Amadeus Cho probably is on this list.

#5 Posted by fACEmelter88 (613 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey is smart but I bet Ock is smarter, r we sure T'Challa is only number 8 pretty sure he is smarter. Yea Cho is 7th.

#6 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah see I didn't even remember Cho as a character. Has he even popped up after his run with Herc?

#7 Posted by Havenless (1398 posts) - - Show Bio

The Obvious Kings of the Hill

1. Doom has always been smarter than Reed, his arrogance and brashness are the plot devices usually used to bring him down.

2. Reed Richards

The Featmongers

3. I'm going Anthony Stark here, mainly based on stuff he's come up with.

4. Nathaniel Essex. Often overlooked, pretty much everything he does just oozes with brilliance.

5. Bruce Banner

Brainiacs That Don't See the Spotlight Often Enough

6. Hank Mccoy. His mutant power is to have a brain larger and more powerful than the average human. It's not his fault Marvel only uses him to be a physician couped up in the X mansion.

7. Henry Pym

The 'Smarter Than Peter Parker' Litmus Test

8. Leader

9. Nathaniel Richards

10. Otto Octavius

#8 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio

@spinningbirdcake said:

Yeah see I didn't even remember Cho as a character. Has he even popped up after his run with Herc?

Yes he has... He is, according to Athena, the new Prince of Power. Hercules currently is mortal and does not have his super strength or basic 'godhood.'

Also, Amadeus has done some work with Bruce Banner. and while he IS one of the smartest people on earth, he's not on the top ten list but he could hang with anyone on that list... He has worked with and held his own with the likes of Hank Pym and Bruce Banner.

#9 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

@Timandm:I did not know that at all. Do you know if he's popped up since the Marvel Now relaunch?

#10 Posted by PrinceIMC (5422 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Doom
  • Reed
  • Tony
  • Pym
  • Banner
  • Beast
  • T'Challa
  • Octavius

That's my order anyway. Eternity who did make Hank Pym Scientist Supreme did agree with Hank that Tony and Reed are smarter than him. Also Amadeus Cho's ranking as 7th smartest was from an internet contest, basically hyperbole.

#11 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio

@spinningbirdcake: I've not seen him in any of the series that I read... I'd LIKE to. I loved the 'Incredible Hercules' series. Amadeus is an interesting character... I hope they bring him back soon.

#12 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4873 posts) - - Show Bio

It's Reed get over IT!

I. Mr Fantastic

II. Doom why because making overbearing assumptions done in haste without regard for consequences, and all because of his attitude of superiority is STUPID(Brash&Arrogance defined.) How are you just going to make speculations with science? It is dumb, he should have double checked his formula like Reed told him. Even Richards asked Scott Lang to double check his condition to be 100% sure. Then again Doom would be #1 IF(since people like to use IF) Mr. Fantastic wasn't #1.

III. Tony Stark why because Pym, and Eternity both said he's smarter than Pym.I don't know why.

IV. Pym... Pym Particles, Pym Pockets, and titled Scientist Supreme. Now top that.

V. Bruce Banner why... I heard he was in the list he could be 6 I don't care.

VI. McCoy why... I just want him on the list. He rarely gets any credit for being a super nerd.

VII. T'Challa why... because he's MArvels Batman, as in very intelligent all around.

VIII. Cho why he agreed to be 8 after he saw Pyms Pocket.

"Whoa! All Right... Eight. I can live with eight. Eight is good."

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#13 Posted by Squares (8024 posts) - - Show Bio

@spinningbirdcake said:

1.Reed

2.Doom

(Now it gets blurry. Someone educate me!)

3.Banner

4.Tony

5.Pym

6.Peter

7.Hank

8.T'Challa

Alright someone correct me :)

You know, it's funny, but there's this thing called the Handbook to the Marvel Universe, and it has all sorts of neat information that would answer your questions.

Alright. It has been stated that Valeria Richards surpasses her father, Reed, in intellect, and it's implied that she's essentially the only person who does (celestials, plot event exclusive power-ups, higher beings, etc. notwithstanding). Since Marvel has outright said it, I personally consider there to be no need to provide proof of this fact. Doctor Doom is likely second. I'm going to assume you're only involving (for the most part) heroes and important characters on your list, so I'll keep characters like Alyssa Moy off my list.

You're very right, from hereon in it involves a lot more guesswork. Tony Stark and Hank Pym are both incredibly intelligent, but they specialize in very different things. Stark is an amazing engineer, businessman (yes, business counts), and mechanic; Pym has a fantastic grasp on chemistry, physics and robotics (sorry if I missed any fields there). Hank Pym is credited with creating artificial intelligence, do you have any idea how significant that is? He also discovered Pym Particles (a new type of particle!) and the micro-verse, which doesn't really come up very often. Tony Stark made...a power suit. Granted, his iron man suits are impressive, but do they really stand up against AI?

Bruce Banner and Beast (I assume that's who you meant by "Hank") are difficult to properly place on a scale because of the fact that while we're told that they're very smart, and are shown them in various impressively science-y settings and doing science-y activities sometimes, they haven't really done much of anything to demonstrate their intellect. Granted, Peter Parker 'merely' designed webshooters (not to mention engineered the webbing itself, in high school), but the only things that I'd really say put Beast and Hulk above Spider-man are their degrees.

And somewhere in this whole mess there is Amadeus Cho, who's stated to be the fifth smartest man in the Marvel universe. He hallucinates math; no, I don't know why that means he ranks so highly, but whatever.

Then there's T'Challa, a tactical genius. I don't know where that ranks.

#14 Posted by Teerack (7379 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa usually outsmarts Tony....

#15 Edited by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

My list:

  1. Supreme Intelligence
  2. Dr. Doom
  3. Valeria Richards
  4. Reed Richards
  5. Hank Pym
  6. High Evolutionary
  7. Ultron
  8. Kang
  9. Tony Stark
  10. Maximus
  11. Mr. Sinister
  12. T'Challa
  13. Bruce Banner
  14. Mad Thinker
  15. Amadeus Cho
  16. MODOK
  17. Doc Ock
  18. Beast
  19. Arnim Zola
  20. Peter Parker
#16 Posted by PowerHerc (85153 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Mr. Fantastic
  2. Dr. Doom
  3. Hank Pym
  4. Egghead
  5. High Evolutionary
  6. Leader
  7. Bruce Banner
  8. Iron Man
  9. Amadeus Cho
  10. Master
  11. Black Panther
  12. Beast
#17 Posted by Pokeysteve (8558 posts) - - Show Bio

Cho needs to be in the top 10. His rapid calculations alone should earn him a spot. I only read his WWH appearances but he is pretty impressive.

#18 Edited by Omnicrono (2016 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Mr. Fantastic (all-around smartest)

2. Doctor Doom (Not as smart as Mr. Fantastic, but he's evil so he attempts things Richards or any hero never would.)

3. Bruce Banner (The guy has to be incredibly smart to put up with Hulk.)

4. Hank Pym (Meh... The obligatory "smart guy.")

5. Black Panther (As already said above - he's pretty much Marvel's Batman.)

6. Iron Man (Not as smart as people make him out to be, but still up there.)

7. The Leader (Smart enough to contend with Hulk and Banner.)

8. Beast (Smarter than Doc Ock.)

9. Doc Ock (Smarter than Spider-man.)

10. Spider-man (Smarter than... ?)

#19 Posted by Wolverine08 (45199 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has said the 8 smartest men in Marvel looks like this:

1. Reed Richards

2. Doctor Doom

3. Hank Pym

4. Bruce Banner

5. Tony Stark

6. Beast

7. Amadeus Cho

8. Black Panther

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#20 Edited by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

No Thanos? Lol

#21 Posted by Wolverine08 (45199 posts) - - Show Bio

Though I do think Panther should be 6., and Beast should be 8.

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#22 Edited by Omnicrono (2016 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

No Thanos? Lol

Shoot! I forgot about him. :(

(Oh well, maybe I'll edit it later.)

#23 Posted by Wolverine08 (45199 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't consider beings like Thanos human, so I didn't add him.

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#24 Edited by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

No Thanos? Lol

Shoot! I forgot about him. :(

(Oh well, maybe I'll edit it later.)

Lol. Pretty sad no one mentioned him. He's the smartest in the universe in my opinion.

#25 Edited by Omnicrono (2016 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

I don't consider beings like Thanos human, so I didn't add him.

Heh, I was just going to say. Yeah, once you start adding cosmic beings, you have to consider all of them. Good point. I'm not going to add him either.

#26 Posted by Perethorn (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Thanos

2. Doom

3. Reed Richards

4. Bruce Banner

5. Hank Pym

6. Tony Stark

7. T'Challa

8. Beast

#27 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't consider beings like Thanos human, so I didn't add him.

Beast isn't human either. Lol.

#28 Posted by Wolverine08 (45199 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

I don't consider beings like Thanos human, so I didn't add him.

Beast isn't human either. Lol.

Uh, mutants are the next step in human evolution, so I guess Beast is sort of human? Lol.

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#29 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: Well then just say that :P

#31 Posted by Extremis (3363 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm no expert, but heres my choices:

1 Reed Richards

2 Dr. Doom

3 Stark

4 Bruce Banner

5 Hank McCoy

6 Hank Pym

And thats all I can figure lol

#32 Posted by Baron_von_Santa (4483 posts) - - Show Bio

thanos doom reed amadeus hank beast ultron

#33 Posted by brainstorm01 (1466 posts) - - Show Bio

1. doom

2....

3. Reed

#34 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1108 posts) - - Show Bio

I always thought Reed and Dr. Doom were the 2 smartest but is it true that Doom once admitted the Leader was smarter than him? I remember reading someone say that awhile back.

#35 Edited by Hyperlight (6338 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally think this list is clearly biased. if the list was the 8 smartest superheroes on earth it would make sense. there are plenty of characters whos intelligence and brain activity classifies as superhuman where no one on the official listing is superhuman in intelligence (we can make an argument for reed). the leaders mind has matured far past the norm due to gamma radiation. the high evolutionary literally evolved his mind and body, thanos is from a race that is superior to humanity in every way.. and they aren't on the list. I like the idea but at the end of the day the official list are full of humans with normal human brain activity. there are others who have the potential for more

#36 Edited by Omnicrono (2016 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by Saren (26027 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering Doom himself has admitted Reed is his intellectual superior, there isn't much space to try and argue for him being #1.

On the premise that people will argue about anything, sure.

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#38 Posted by MutieLover (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@yung_ancient_one: Reed brought his love interest and her kid brother onto a highly dangerous space mission to study cosmic rays- neither of whom is scientist.

#39 Edited by MutieLover (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos has human origins. He is a member of the Eternal offshoot of humanity.

#40 Edited by Omnicrono (2016 posts) - - Show Bio

@mutielover said:

Thanos has human origins. He is a member of the Eternal offshoot of humanity.

Interesting... but I think you're reaching. He is an alien, and he doesn't even operate on Earth primarily. Not sure that it matters he started out as a human once upon time (for purposes of this list).

#41 Posted by Manchine (4185 posts) - - Show Bio

Might as well add my list. Just people on earth.

1) Reed

2) Doctor Doom

3) Kang

4) Iron Man

5) Hank Pym

6) Bruce Banner

7) The Leader

8) Cho

9) Mad Thinker (Everyone Forgets him)

10) M.O.D.O.K.

11) Ultron

12) High Evolutionary

13) Black Panther

14) Beast

#42 Edited by BigCimmerian (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Doom

2. Reed Richards

3. Tony Stark

4. Hank Pym

5. Bruce Banner

6. Beast

7. Amadeus Cho

8. T'Challa

/Thread.

#43 Posted by Doomnaut (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhino

Blob

Armadillo

Walrus

#44 Posted by green_skaar (4593 posts) - - Show Bio

Surprised Blue Marvel wasn't mentioned at all. Not sure if he's top 8, but he's genius.

#45 Edited by Yung ANcient One (4873 posts) - - Show Bio

@yung_ancient_one: Reed brought his love interest and her kid brother onto a highly dangerous space mission to study cosmic rays- neither of whom is scientist.

Ok? And?... Reed and Doom make a mistake, I'll give ya that but it seems like Reed has learned the errors of his ways and not Doom.

PS

I thought the story was that Ben was the pilot, Reed & Sue were scientist, and Johnny was the only oddball in the group.

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