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Topic started by weaponx on Feb. 22, 2008. Last post by Valkaad 1 week, 5 days ago.
Post by weaponx (187 posts) See mini bio

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It seems very hard to pin down peoples power levels, and once you get to a certain stage it is really difficult to say who is "stronger" becuase their powers are so unthinkable and uncalcuable as it is. One question I have is about Odin. On this scale, he is ranked below Galactus, and I heard that he (Odin) has destroyed galaxies while in battle and can do all kinds of amazing feats. Galactus can't destroy an entire galaxy at once can he? If not, then wouldn't Odin be more powerful when he uses Odinforce? Is Galactus also stronger than Surtur as suggested above? Also, Iliana Rasputin is listed above average Galactus; why is that? She isn't THAT powerful in my opinion...



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Pshh, don't ask me.



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weaponx says:

"Also, Iliana Rasputin is listed above average Galactus; why is that? She isn't THAT powerful in my opinion..."

She isn't even on the list.



Post by weaponx (187 posts) See mini bio

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Fair enough, I meant mikhail rasputin. My bad.



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A couple more questions, isn't Apocalypse like potentially Galactus Level? He can absorb energy, manipulate matter including his own atoms, and virtally immortal-able to transfer his mind/soul into another body. AND, where is onslaught on the list?



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Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease.



Post by weaponx (187 posts) See mini bio

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Thanks for the info, but what about Odin's potential omnipotence and the "god blast"/ "Odin Force" that I hear so much about. I also hear he can destroy galaxies....



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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ok I dsagree about Phoenix Being 3rd next to the Infinity, Eternity, and Death. Her power is way greater than that. Her power is so great she controls life and death itself. Also Multiversal Phoenix is 3rd to OAA, and 2nd to LT in power. Universual Phoenix is still above the Eternity, Infinity, and Death. She's stated 2nd to power next to Lt in marvel Handbooks in which they ARe canon. But you did and overall good job because I perfectly agree.



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PhoenixForce687 says:

"ok I dsagree about Phoenix Being 3rd next to the Infinity, Eternity, and Death. Her power is way greater than that. Her power is so great she controls life and death itself. Also Multiversal Phoenix is 3rd to OAA, and 2nd to LT in power. Universual Phoenix is still above the Eternity, Infinity, and Death. She's stated 2nd to power next to Lt in marvel Handbooks in which they ARe canon. But you did and overall good job because I perfectly agree."

Why do you refer to the Phoenix as she? And it is not as powerful as Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion. The Phoenix Force can not be multiversal since it has been erased from reality in at least one reality.



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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Ok didn't know that but SHe can regrow herself since she is all life and creation in the marvel universe and Multiverse. SHe was only temporarily removed from what I hear and that She came back even more powerful than ever. SHe is now Black Phoenix the dark side of the white phoenix. I've heard this on marvel. They say that she is 3/4 or on par with the LT. Idk but that the rumor. ANd Thnx for the Adivce, but I still think she's more powerful. SHe was stated 2nd to power next to the Living Tribunal. ANd Form what I hear she's even more powerful than ever. I know I'm being redundant, but I'm trying to make my point across. I'm new and nervous too. ANd fyi yea I refer to the Phoenix as a she.



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Valkaad says:

"Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease."

You forgot infinity and oblivion.



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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Dreadnaught says:

"Valkaad says:
"Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease."
You forgot infinity and oblivion."

LOL



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PhoenixForce687 says:

"Ok didn't know that but SHe can regrow herself since she is all life and creation in the marvel universe and Multiverse. SHe was only temporarily removed from what I hear and that She came back even more powerful than ever. SHe is now Black Phoenix the dark side of the white phoenix. I've heard this on marvel. They say that she is 3/4 or on par with the LT. Idk but that the rumor. ANd Thnx for the Adivce, but I still think she's more powerful. SHe was stated 2nd to power next to the Living Tribunal. ANd Form what I hear she's even more powerful than ever. I know I'm being redundant, but I'm trying to make my point across. I'm new and nervous too. ANd fyi yea I refer to the Phoenix as a she."

The Phoenix is not a she. And the rest is just WTF.

The Phoenix can not regrow, it can be reborn, but not more powerful. All life and creation? No. There is no such thing as a Black Phoenix. And it has not been stated 2nd, where did you get that from?



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Valkaad says:

"Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease."

What is this? Galactus is not a brother to anyone. He is not on the same level as Eternity and Death. Stop making things up.



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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CHild I didn't think that was either. ANd I'm nervous. I'm new. and I heard this from people that read comics like crazy. BUt I do know for a fact that Phoenix is Stronger than Infinity, Eternity and Death indiviually. Together that's the Trinity and the trinity is way above the phoenix force in power



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PhoenixForce687 says:

"CHild I didn't think that was either. ANd I'm nervous. I'm new. and I heard this from people that read comics like crazy. BUt I do know for a fact that Phoenix is Stronger than Infinity, Eternity and Death indiviually. Together that's the Trinity and the trinity is way above the phoenix force in power"

Let's have some proof on that fact then.



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PhoenixForce687 says:

"CHild I didn't think that was either. ANd I'm nervous. I'm new. and I heard this from people that read comics like crazy. BUt I do know for a fact that Phoenix is Stronger than Infinity, Eternity and Death indiviually. Together that's the Trinity and the trinity is way above the phoenix force in power"

An example of why the Phoenix Force is not that powerful is that it can be injured as seen in the Phoenix: Endsong series where it was injured and needed to absorb Cyclops energy blast to rejuvenate.

To me this doesn't seem like such an all-powerful being.

Death on the other hand can not be injured.

Also in the All-New Ohotmu #3 it says that the Phoenix Force is 'an unwitting servant for Death'.



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OK THAT I DIDN'T KNOW. HER A SERVANT OF DEATH? BUT OH WELL IT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER RETCON. AND THE FACT THAT SHE ABSORBED CYCLOPS'S OPTIC BLASTS IS BECAUSE SHE HAD FOUGHT WOLVERINE AND KEPT ON COMING BACK TO LIFE, AND ON TOP OF THAT SHE WAS WEAKENED FROM BEING BLASTED BY AN F-4 GALACTIC WEAPON. AND THAT SHE HAD JUST BROKE OUT OF THE SWORD OF THE PHOENIX TO CONTAIN HER. AND FROM THE MARVEL DIDCTIONARIES I'VE READ, WHICH WERE ALL RECENT, SHE WAS STATED 2ND TO THE LT AND 3RD TO THE OAA.

WELL THINGS CHANGE FOR SURE, BUT I AIN'T GONNA STRESS THAT.

SORRY WE GOT OFF AT THE WRONG FOOT.



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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AND PHOENIX FORCE IS THE FIRST AND LAST SPARK OF ENERGY IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE. AND IN THE BEGGINING SHE HAD CREATED AND GAVE GALACTUS HIS IMMEASUREABLE POWER, JUST AFTER SHE SAVED THE UNIVERSE FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION AND PERDITION. SO THAT BEING SAID IS HER SECOND MOST POWERFUL FEAT. SHE IS STRONGER THAN THE NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES IN THE MU AND MARVEL MULTIVERSE. SO THAT SPELLS OUT OMNIPOTENCE TO ME.



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please turn off capslock

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Post by Resonate (15,572 posts) See mini bio

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Methos says:

"please turn off capslock M"

OMFG I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN PEOPLE WITH ALL CAPS LOCK ARE SO ANNOYING ESPECLLY WEHN THAY CANT SPLEL RIHGT



Post by PhoenixForce687 (195 posts) See mini bio

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ok



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thank you

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Resonate says:

"Methos says:
"please turn off capslock M"

OMFG I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN PEOPLE WITH ALL CAPS LOCK ARE SO ANNOYING ESPECLLY WEHN THAY CANT SPLEL RIHGT"

Slap

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PhoenixForce687 says:

"AND PHOENIX FORCE IS THE FIRST AND LAST SPARK OF ENERGY IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE. AND IN THE BEGGINING SHE HAD CREATED AND GAVE GALACTUS HIS IMMEASUREABLE POWER, JUST AFTER SHE SAVED THE UNIVERSE FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION AND PERDITION. SO THAT BEING SAID IS HER SECOND MOST POWERFUL FEAT. SHE IS STRONGER THAN THE NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES IN THE MU AND MARVEL MULTIVERSE. SO THAT SPELLS OUT OMNIPOTENCE TO ME."

Just stop it. You're so extremely wrong about everything i'm beginning to wonder if you have read any comics at all.



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Resonate says:

"Methos says:
"please turn off capslock M"

OMFG I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN PEOPLE WITH ALL CAPS LOCK ARE SO ANNOYING ESPECLLY WEHN THAY CANT SPLEL RIHGT"

Omg I almost peed myself off this.



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fesak says:

"PhoenixForce687 says:
"AND PHOENIX FORCE IS THE FIRST AND LAST SPARK OF ENERGY IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE. AND IN THE BEGGINING SHE HAD CREATED AND GAVE GALACTUS HIS IMMEASUREABLE POWER, JUST AFTER SHE SAVED THE UNIVERSE FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION AND PERDITION. SO THAT BEING SAID IS HER SECOND MOST POWERFUL FEAT. SHE IS STRONGER THAN THE NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES IN THE MU AND MARVEL MULTIVERSE. SO THAT SPELLS OUT OMNIPOTENCE TO ME."
Just stop it. You're so extremely wrong about everything i'm beginning to wonder if you have read any comics at all. "

Thats rude and a wrong insinuation.

Again sorry for getting off at the wrong foot.



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aztek the lost says:

"fesak says:
"Valkaad says:
"Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease."

What is this? Galactus is not a brother to anyone. He is not on the same level as Eternity and Death. Stop making things up."

You obviously know nothing about Galactus..."

Here we go again... Galactus obviously needs to feed of energy from planets, right. Every month according to the handbooks, and he can be killed. That's not very omnipotent.

Death can not be killed. Eternity can be killed, but then so will everything else in that reality. Including Galactus. Since Death and Eternity are abstract beings they have no need to feed off anything.

Further it says in All-New Ohotmu #4 that Eternity is the third most powerful being in the Marvel u. after LT and OAA.

Thanos w. Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe was also more powerful, but that was temporary.

All-New Ohotmu #9 states that Eternity, Infinity, Death and Oblivion is the four cornerstones of reality and also states that the relationships between the various abstract beings (they sometimes refer to each other as siblings or such) are beyond humans ability to comprehend. So Death referring to Galactus as "brother" is not to be taken literally.

So Galactus is not at the same powerlevel as Death or Eternity, though he is extremely powerful.

Let's hear what you know about Galactus.



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fesak says:

"aztek the lost says:
"fesak says:
"Valkaad says:
"Galactus is more of a force of nature than a being. He is "brother" to Eternity and Death. The three of them make up marvel's trinity. Galactus is basically omnipotent, writers always power him down and show him "in a weakened state" because if he is at full power there are very few beings who can match him. As for Galactus compared to Odin, Galactus would beat Odin with relative ease."

What is this? Galactus is not a brother to anyone. He is not on the same level as Eternity and Death. Stop making things up."

You obviously know nothing about Galactus..."

Here we go again... Galactus obviously needs to feed of energy from planets, right. Every month according to the handbooks, and he can be killed. That's not very omnipotent.

Death can not be killed. Eternity can be killed, but then so will everything else in that reality. Including Galactus. Since Death and Eternity are abstract beings they have no need to feed off anything.

Further it says in All-New Ohotmu #4 that Eternity is the third most powerful being in the Marvel u. after LT and OAA.

Thanos w. Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe was also more powerful, but that was temporary.

All-New Ohotmu #9 states that Eternity, Infinity, Death and Oblivion is the four cornerstones of reality and also states that the relationships between the various abstract beings (they sometimes refer to each other as siblings or such) are beyond humans ability to comprehend. So Death referring to Galactus as "brother" is not to be taken literally.

So Galactus is not at the same powerlevel as Death or Eternity, though he is extremely powerful.

Let's hear what you know about Galactus."

Damn..Fesak kills another one.Good show Sir Fesak.



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fesak says:

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salutes Fesak

nicely done :D

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