@heavenlydarkdragon: It was fairly obvious that these other characters would turn out to be J'onn's back ups though, that was a twist fans could see coming a mile away. It was still a good twist though, just predictable. As for the other Martians, that did come out of left field and does detract away from J'onn's lonely yet compassionate personality. But as Dondave told me on another thread in these same boards, perhaps this character shouldn't be exactly the same as his Pre New 52 incarnation. Moreover, this does differentiate him from Superman's position as the Last Son of Krypton even with all the potential drawbacks.
You of all people complaining about a character being overpowered is still strange to read, as your posts have you wanting Superman to learn how to use telekinesis and telepathy of his own. It does sound like you're annoyed that Martian Manhunter got there first before the writers made Superman have these powers in his comic book powerset permanently. You know the powers you've listed aren't going to be part of J'onn's abilities anytime soon, this isn't DBZ where punches can shake the universe and be felt on a planet billions of light years away (yep it's happened, DBZ is getting even more overpowered now)
But isn't a character overcoming their longstanding weakness what you've been wanting for Superman for some time? There hasn't been major complaints when Johns had the Green Lanterns capable of overcoming the longtime yellow weakness that Lanterns suffered from, and J'onn overcame his weakness to fire in the JLA arc Trial by Fire in the Pre New 52 canon.
I'll grant you that the Martians' goals are a little small, with everything they can do, they can conquer more than a single planet easily.
You see. This is where we always butt heads.
I search for middle grounds and you read it like I'm trying to go to extremes. Maybe it's how I express myself, who knows...
I do want Superman to reach his full potential, but not looking like a total knock-off. Just like speed will always be Barry thing, telepathy and telekinesis could be J'onn thing. After all he's had hundreds of millions of years to perfect his powers. While Superman is like what?? 29, 30 something years old?? I never expect him to be this unbeatable character, like J'onn has become.
J'onn can't even die. If that's not overdoing it and ruining Martian Manhunter at the same time, then I don't know what is.
I always liked J'onn presence in the past not because of his power but more because of his experience. He had lived through the best and worst times and still kept on fighting the good fight. And unlike Superman he didn't shy from getting his hands dirty.
Remember the Identity Crisis arc? Do you think for a moment that I believe that if Superman had telepathic powers he'd used them to manipulate minds, especially those of his friends, even if it was for the greater good. No. He'd never do it, while J'onn who's not as naive as Kal, would.
In many ways J'onn is the grown up version of Superman. He's had countless time to know what his path should be, while Superman has constant moral crisis.
And you have to agree, although this thing of J'onn not being the last martian might seem to distant himself from Superman, it fails completely. After all, Superman isn't exactly the last of his kind either. And bringing new martians in, especially one's that look like sons of Atrocitus also doesn't help. The whole thing about J'onn being the last of his kind never made sense either way. It's not like martians were powerless on Mars. So how were they basically wipedout... that was always the main point I could never wrap my head around it. And if DC wanted to make J'onn just one among many martians they could've at least created a better story.
And if all that J'onn can do wasn't already too much, now most likely we're gonna see him face off against his entire kind alone and win. And although the other martians called J'onn the "weapon" like DC is now hinting somehow J'onn was engineered to be this super-martian, either way they spin it, it will only serve to cement the idea that Martian Manhunter as become too much to handle.
I know fire was a stupid weakness to begin with. The same way Alan Scott weakness to wood was also stupid. And I always believed J'onn needed a more credible, and preferably not something like kryptonite that seems to grow on trees, weakness. Something from Mars and Mars alone, that was rare and hard to obtain.
Has for Superman you already know my point about his weaknesses. He has too many. And should be cut down to one and only one. Enough with the red sunlight, magic and psychics. It should be kryptonite and kryptonite alone. Either his enemies needed to be as powerful as him or kryptonite would be the only way to bring him down, if used correctly. I wouldn't want Clark from Smallville to return. That a person would place a piece of kryptonite on his chest and he couldn't lift a finger to throw it away. That was so dumb it even pains me to remember those moments.
Superman future is already so uncertain at this point, that trashing Martian Manhunter also, would seem like DC is trying to run 100 miles a hour against a brick wall.
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