DC Takes Legal Action Against Mark Millar's Nemesis

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#51 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio

This is what Millar wanted when he made that reference, he wanted people to talk about it. What better way to get good and free publicity. Of course you're going to have to over reactors, "I am never gonna buy Marvel again".... "Good for DC Marvel's been stealing from them for so long!" Which that just makes you sound foolish. I mean how can you possibly say that and still look at DC as innocent, they stole Captain Marvel because he was a big muscular guy with black hair.
 
Back on track, Nemesis is going to be releashed, because having a cowl and a bloody smile doesn't make you a Batman/Joker amalgamation and just because someone made that reference in an interview to give the reader of the interview a vague idea what the character is like doesn't mean he is Batman mixed with Joker.
 
DCs always seemed kinda soft when it came to this stuff.. I am surprised they didn't raise a stink when Spidey tried to immitate Christan Bale's voice and made a mention of the Batman movie. And I am pretty sure DC characters get mentioned in Marvel comics more then Marvel in DC and why not. I would find it funny if say Cap was reading a Superman Comic.

#52 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (18976 posts) - - Show Bio

absolutely ridiculous
#53 Posted by ulrich200 (95 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenGriffin said:
" "What if Millar was a good writer?" We will never know. "
Nah.It's impossible.
#54 Posted by Druid (104 posts) - - Show Bio

I've a good number of comics over the years where a character is made to resemble another popular character, in jest usually. They change the look and name slightly etc. For DC to already be taking legal action over an image with slight similarities is insane. I could understand when the book comes out if it blatantly copies story details like character origins etc. for DC to start barking, but c'mon, what a joke. 
 
Anybody heard of LarryBoy? He's a homage to Batman in some ways too. How did DC miss that?
 
#55 Posted by Blam (50 posts) - - Show Bio

I really prefer DC to marvel, but i am going to say I would read this, even if it is a rip off of DC. Its still interesting

#56 Edited by dr.x (553 posts) - - Show Bio

I got two words for you Rip Off 
 
 
#57 Posted by HaloKing343 (1252 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that's stupid. This picture is fine.

#58 Posted by THEBlaqueBasterd (383 posts) - - Show Bio

mILLARS A GENIUS.. iF HE NEEDED ANY more PUBLICITY FOR HIS UPCOMING kICKASS &ALL HIS OTHER PROJECTS HE'S GOT IT!!!
 
mEANWHILE DC HAVNT GOT A LEGAL MORAL OR INTELLECTAUL RIGHT-LEG TO STAND ON
 
.....gENIUS

#59 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
shouldnt DC being going after deeper pockets?
 

#60 Posted by Bearded Justice (732 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decept-O said:
"I think the issue was in the description:   "What if Batman was the Joker?"     and "What if Batman was a total c***?"      The images I don't think DC could really have said or done anything about, despite the obvious intentions.    However this all plays out, its brought attention to Millar.  Maybe next time he should be a bit more careful with words.  He also could have brought this to DC as an Elseworlds book.  Interesting to see how this will end up. "
--yeah I would've liked to see this as an Elseworlds. 

Here's the dealyo:  Someone should've stopped this before now.  An editor should've taken one look at this and said "Yeah, something needs to be changed."  Ok, people are gonna take other peoples ideas, and then take them a step further, or add on to them, or change something.  But... this is a little too obvious.  Not too sure if DC is gonna win this one, though... just a feeling. 
#61 Edited by strangeling (180 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hamz said:

" I support our DC overlords in their decision.   A homage 'Nemesis' may have been intended to be, but in the world of intellectual properties 'homage' is just another way of saying 'theft' which this project may not directly have been. But the similarities are just far too close for it to really be a legitimately acceptable homage.  The promotional art was hardly subtle in hiding the ideas they clearly took or 'stole' from the Batman and the Joker designs. And Millar actually coming out publicly and mentioning the character / series as being a Batman story turned upside down doesn't help either.   I'm all for paying homage to great characters between publishers, but there is a fine line between wanting to show respect and just outright basing your whole idea on one already thought up and established for you. Whatever happened to originality? Couldn't Millar have perhaps described 'Nemesis' without having to mention Batman or the Joker?   I'm sure many will disagree with me over this. But I can totally see why DC would be throwing a legal tantrum about it, the Joker and Batman are two of the most iconic characters in the history of comic books and very dear to them. Wouldn't you want to protect your money making babies if you had them? "

It's all just "fine line" stuff. 
It's like it's okay to base characters on established characters if you don't say you're doing it.  (ie. Midnighter, Apollo, etc.) 
It's okay to make comparisons between works.  People do it all the time, "this is like a combination of these other three movies." 
 
Apparently, it's just not a good thing to mention those comparisons as your inspiration for your project. 
 
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I can see why there is issue with the image, however.  The "smile" is just too similar.
#62 Posted by Phantom Patriot (28 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope mark Millar keeps the original nature to it, AND the look. I think DC comics are just being little girls over the issue. If anything, this will only help make the batman franchise (even tho its not involved with it, entirely) have even more flavor and coolness.
 
Mark Millar's great work will never truly be appreciated because the world's too sensitive to try and understand it.
 
Seriously, DC, your rich enough, let marvel get SOME cash this year... lol

#63 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15040 posts) - - Show Bio
@Phantom Patriot said:
" I hope mark Millar keeps the original nature to it, AND the look. I think DC comics are just being little girls over the issue. If anything, this will only help make the batman franchise (even tho its not involved with it, entirely) have even more flavor and coolness. Mark Millar's great work will never truly be appreciated because the world's too sensitive to try and understand it.  Seriously, DC, your rich enough, let marvel get SOME cash this year... lol "
Marvel has been copying DC for years they are sick of it

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