Ben Kingsley is a great choice to play Mandarin

#1 Edited by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

I really should be doing homework, but here it goes:

1) There are Chinese who descend from Europe. These are people who's ancestors migrated from countries like Russia and Turkey (e.g. the Uyghur,)

2) Every Chinese state has a Muslim community. The Uyghur are the largest ethnic group in Xinjiang, a near uninhabitable region.

3) Why would the Ten Rings follow Fu Manchu? Why would an Arab terrorist group follow a Han Chinese crime lord? A Uyghur as Mandarin makes for a better fit.

4) Iron Man was created in a time where Communism posed an economic, military, and ideological threat. China's merely an economic rival now. No one's afraid of the Chinese destroying Western civilization (e.g. capitalism). Iron Man 3's Mandarin would need to better fit the times.

5) One could argue that a Uyghur Muslim is the perfect foil to Tony Stark. A Uyghur terrorist living in government-run, conformist China vs. a wealthy American innovator living uninhibited? Why not?

Thoughts?

I've been watching TV all morning. My brain feels like bubblegum dental plaster.

EDIT: Apparently the Mandarin's half-Chinese, half-British with Mongolian ancestry. Hmm.

#2 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (8048 posts) - - Show Bio

Eww bubblegum dental plaster.. -shivers-

#3 Posted by Tem Borjigin (120 posts) - - Show Bio

He's not even half Chinese, at least not ethnic Chinese, which is to say Han. He's half ethnic Mongol/half British.

#4 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

This is who should have played the Manderin

#5 Posted by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa doesn't look Chinese to me. Ben Kingsley at least looks like a minority or half-cast from China.

#6 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@VampireSelektor said:

@evilvegeta74: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa doesn't look Chinese to me. Ben Kingsley at least looks like a minority or half-cast from China.

Because he is Japanese, unlike Kingsley who is English and living under a stage name ( real name Krishna Pandit Bhanji ) whom has no asian features whatsoever right? Compare the two seriously.

#7 Posted by FearTheLiving (3846 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree, at first I wasn't really fond of it but after watching the trailer a bunch and seeing the poster I can see it and really like the choice.

#8 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats done is done, I will be in the theatre when it comes out.

#9 Edited by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

@VampireSelektor said:

@evilvegeta74: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa doesn't look Chinese to me. Ben Kingsley at least looks like a minority or half-cast from China.

Because he is Japanese, unlike Kingsley who is English and living under a stage name ( real name Krishna Pandit Bhanji ) whom has no asian features whatsoever right? Compare the two seriously.

1) Yes, Tagawa is Japanese. I meant that Tagawa doesn't look like he could pass as Chinese.

2) Again, there are Chinese minorities who look like Ben Kingsley

3) This is just opinion, but a half-Mongolian, half-Briton of Mongolian descent would probably look more like Kingsley than Tagawa.

#10 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@VampireSelektor: I know what you're saying, I just disagree with Kingsley in the Mandarin role , but still support the movie.

#11 Posted by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

@Tem Borjigin said:

He's not even half Chinese, at least not ethnic Chinese, which is to say Han. He's half ethnic Mongol/half British.

Was Mandarin's father completely Mongolian?

#12 Posted by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: I can't argue with that. Good morning.

#13 Posted by Thor_Ul (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Sooo... What do you think now? Well, was indeed a good election.

#14 Posted by VampireSelektor (749 posts) - - Show Bio

@thor_ul: I liked the casting choice. "Iron Man 3" was Stark's "Wrath of Khan". The "Mandarin" as the leather shoes with no socks wearing, hair-slicked back, gene modifying world manipulator to Stark's hoodie-d up, armor-wearing, one-step behind hero is inspired. Stark is a futurist who main pursuits are philanthropy and capitalism. He's vain, but good-hearted. "Mandarin" is his obnoxious mirror set on world domination. Is this isn't someone Iron Man should fear? The person who's one step ahead and working against him?

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