Is magneto an omega mutant?

#1 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Is he?

#2 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Since I have seen no official confirmation for it, I would have to say no.

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#3 Posted by Green Skin (2932 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

When in doubt: Omega-Level Mutants

#4 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Green Skin said:

"When in doubt: Omega-Level Mutants "

Magneto fits the bill for being an Omega but I have yet to actaully have a solid foundation of proof

#5 Posted by bigalow (112 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

No,stryfe or apocalypse are omega level ,but the overexposed magneto is not omega

#6 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Magneto is closer to an Omega than Storm is..

#7 Posted by sexy beast (350 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@geraldthesloth said:

" Magneto is closer to an Omega than Storm is.. "

Agreed..

#8 Posted by Green Skin (2932 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@bigalow said:

" No,stryfe or apocalypse are omega level ,but the overexposed magneto is not omega "

Neither Stryfe nor Apocalypse are Omega either.

@daak1212 said:

" @Green Skin said:

"When in doubt: Omega-Level Mutants "
Magneto fits the bill for being an Omega but I have yet to actaully have a solid foundation of proof "

All it takes is an on panel confirmation.

#9 Posted by bigalow (112 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

It is known that stryfe is the most powerful mutent ever,but in the same storyline he gets wrecked by apocalypse.if you are the most powerful mutant ever than clearly you are omega level or beyond omega level.

#10 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Green Skin said:

" @bigalow said:

" No,stryfe or apocalypse are omega level ,but the overexposed magneto is not omega "
Neither Stryfe nor Apocalypse are Omega either.

@daak1212 said:

" @Green Skin said:

"When in doubt: Omega-Level Mutants "
Magneto fits the bill for being an Omega but I have yet to actaully have a solid foundation of proof "
All it takes is an on panel confirmation. "

Apoc is omega since the Celestial tech

#11 Edited by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@bigalow said:

" It is known that stryfe is the most powerful mutent ever,but in the same storyline he gets wrecked by apocalypse.if you are the most powerful mutant ever than clearly you are omega level or beyond omega level. "

Sir are you high? Stryfe is not the strongest mutant ever. MJJ, Phoenix, Xman, Meggan just to name a few

This is the best evidence I can find that he's omega. Its strange that Iceman is consider omega but not Magneto

#12 Posted by Edamame (26191 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Sir are you high? Stryfe is not the strongest mutant ever. MJJ, Phoenix, Xman, Meggan just to name a few

LOL

This is the closest that Magneto has come to Omega status; by the way:

Partial discorporation (Uncanny X-Men #275, X-Men Vol. 2 #3, X-Men Vol. 2 #87)

#13 Posted by ComicMan24 (146836 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Has it ever been hinted that he might be an Omega-level mutant?

#14 Posted by bigalow (112 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212:
No,but your an idiot,it is stated in messiah war and confirmed by it's writers that stryfe is the strongest mutant,until that is he got beat down by apocalypse.

#15 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212:

wasn't it confirmed that Hope was the most powerful mutant?

#16 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@bigalow said:

"@daak1212: No,but your an idiot,it is stated in messiah war and confirmed by it's writers that stryfe is the strongest mutant,until that is he got beat down by apocalypse. "

Then he isnt the strongest since he lost to Apoc
@Thor's hammmer said:

"@daak1212: wasn't it confirmed that Hope was the most powerful mutant? "

Really I have no idea. Hope I think is the strongest on Earth. Although I wonder how she would fair against Xman

#17 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Edamame:
Jezz, Magneto cant catch a break. he has done things that should put him as omega but yet is still Alpha. He litterally has his hand on the doorknob to become omega

#18 Posted by Shadowdoggy (3815 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

who invented the Omega mutant term
I would punch them in the neck
who cares???????
it's trivial and beyond meaningless
how about we make up a new word
for someone cool enough to be omega but who still isn't
......Magneto is now an ULTRA-mutant-supreme!!!!!

#19 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

So wait let me get this straight. Im not even close to being all knowing about Xmen but Omega mutant as I thought is a mutant with immense power that is limitless. Prof. X who is a driving force in the mutant community or atleast was said that Magneto is limitless. Magneto even has feats that should have him as Omega, but yet isnt. Some mutants who are Omega such as Bobby have yet to impress me with actual powerful feats (beating Oblivion does not count at all). As Shadowdoggy said the person who coined Omega Mutant should be punched in the neck for not eveing having actaul borders on what counts as limitless.

#20 Posted by WoundingFactor (178 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212: Omega mutants do tend to be powerful, yes, but more often, it seems that their potential for control over whatever sort of power they have is the deciding factor in whether or not they are Omega. Magneto (and really, anyone who can control electromagnetism) is for all intents and purposes unlimited in terms of what he can do, simply because of how fundamentally interwoven with existence the thing he has power over is. It doesn't matter if he's Omega or not, really. Now, is his control over electromagnetism as high as it could be? I don't know.

#21 Posted by CosmicGod432 (177 posts) - 2 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

I believe that he is not and i dont remember any time that he was referred or mentioned to be one.

#22 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

I think I might have an issue where they said he was omega although Im not sure and probably wont check into it. Its X-Men 1 with the initial introduction of Fabian Cortez.

#23 Posted by daak1212 (7793 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

I found something interesting. In " The Twelve" the twelve were omega mutants. Gambit was also I think because at the time didnt he have the brain stimulation or something? Also as I said Magneto fits into the catagory of Omega but has yet to be said as Omega (maybe he has I'm not sure)

#24 Edited by Hazlenaut (1679 posts) - 2 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Magneto is fully able to control of his powers. He can be contained easily. A fully plastic prison and he can’t break out using his powers. He still has high connections to still make himself still a threat. They have produced plastic sentinels to fight him. He not omega but he is still very dangerous.

#25 Posted by Aqua11500 (2647 posts) - 2 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@sexy beast said:

" @geraldthesloth said:
" Magneto is closer to an Omega than Storm is.. "
Agreed.. "

equal

#26 Posted by Aqua11500 (2647 posts) - 2 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

HE should be...based on feats.

#27 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (7819 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

He has the feats to support him being omega level, more so than characters who have aready been confimed, but he is still alpha level to my knowledge.

#28 Edited by rayn1984 (187 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

since " Some abilities depicted by mutants described as Omega-level include immortality, extreme manipulation of matter and energy, high psionic ability, strong telekinesis, and the potential to exist beyond the boundaries of the known physical universe" and magneto's force field can even withstood a blast from silver surfer plus he teared up appocalypse then he is a totally strong alpha level muntant... Why? ahmmmm because marvel didn't say he is omega-level muntant. anyway he is not immortal, and the use of his powers relies to his physical condition. and i'm not even sure if he ever demonstrated manipulating matter using only his powers

#29 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@rayn1984:
yes hes a extremely powerful alpha but just like storm they lack the requirments to be omega plus they have shown there limits

#30 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

anyone wanna post the omega mutant list?

#31 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@mrtrickster:
just off memory here though some might not me omega anymore if changed

iceman
jean grey
racheal summers
x-man
vulcan
hope summers
david haller
exiler
kid omega

there certain mutants like franklin richards or mister m that are for sure omega level just not said to be

#32 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Valtot: I remember dazzler being omega, and legion
and Franklin and Mr M has been confirmed, just not on panel, here's franklin

#33 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@mrtrickster:
is that all it sais for franklin wow wheres this from? hes suppost to have limitless psionic power for massive TK and TP and a bunch of other psionic abilities no one else has demonstrated

#34 Posted by PrinceIMC (5347 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Just because you're powerful, really really powerful, doesn't make you Omega. I've said it before but when Magneto turns into magnetism or uses it to travel through time or something then he'll be Omega.

#35 Posted by Mercy_ (83665 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Dazzler is not an Omega level, last I heard.

Elixir
Jean Grey
Nate Grey
Iceman
Legion
Mr. M
Quentin Quire
Franklin Richards
Vulcan
Hope Summers
Rachel Summers

Anybody else sensing a pattern?

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#36 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress:
yep limitless potential with each having the capability to have immortality

#37 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Valtot: x-men 198 files

#38 Posted by Mercy_ (83665 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Valtot said:

" @The Dark Huntress: yep limitless potential with each having the capability to have immortality "

That, too. But I was more talking about the amount of Greys and Summers that were showing up.

@mrtrickster said:

" @Valtot: x-men 198 files
"

Crap. I read that a year ago and no longer own it. But it would make sense with her resurrection capabilities..and her other powers, now that I think of it.

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#39 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Valtot said:
" @The Dark Huntress: yep limitless potential with each having the capability to have immortality "
That, too. But I was more talking about the amount of Greys and Summers that were showing up.

@mrtrickster said:
" @Valtot: x-men 198 files
"
Crap. I read that a year ago and no longer own it. But it would make sense with her resurrection capabilities..and her other powers, now that I think of it. "

actually now I think of it, I remember seeing dazzler being omega mutant at marvel database, never saw on panel evidence of her being omega level. but her power base could make her potentially be one

#40 Posted by SC (9856 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

CC I think was thinking about making Ali an Omega, but that plot was dropped for the time, and is now a loose end that probably won't be picked up on. Mike Carey should probably write the rules of what constitutes an Omega, because most X-Writers don't seem to know, and if they don't know, there fans basically get to contradict each other with semantics. Magneto could be written as one, and hinted at being similar to those considered as one, under some definitions and explanations of what one is, but I think its better of he isn't.

#41 Posted by Son Of Storm (11239 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Valtot said:
" @The Dark Huntress: yep limitless potential with each having the capability to have immortality "
That, too. But I was more talking about the amount of Greys and Summers that were showing up.

@mrtrickster said:
" @Valtot: x-men 198 files
"
Crap. I read that a year ago and no longer own it. But it would make sense with her resurrection capabilities..and her other powers, now that I think of it. "
actually now I think of it, I remember seeing dazzler being omega mutant at marvel database, never saw on panel evidence of her being omega level. but her power base could make her potentially be one "

That really isn't accurate. I remember I saw Cyclops, Storm, Magneto, and even Pixie.

#42 Posted by Mercy_ (83665 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

This is completely non-canon, but in the X-Men: The End Magneto "died", only we find out that he wasn't actually dead, he was simply existing as a being of pure energy. So the potential is most certainly there.

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#43 Posted by SC (9856 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Son Of Storm:  Its probable whoever put her entry in whatever Marvel database was going off CC's interviews for New Excalibur.

@The Dark Huntress:  Indeed, that was a cool moment. Silly gripe though, it was canon, just canon to that reality, and not 616 or in 616 continuity. *Feels geeky*

#44 Posted by Son Of Storm (11239 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress said:

" This is completely non-canon, but in the X-Men: The End Magneto "died", only we find out that he wasn't actually dead, he was simply existing as a being of pure energy. So the potential is most certainly there. "

I could say something but I wont. Because if it does happen. I........will.....not....BE....HAPPY!

#45 Posted by Son Of Storm (11239 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@SC said:

" @Son Of Storm: Its probable whoever put her entry in whatever Marvel database was going off CC's interviews for New Excalibur.

Possibly. But if that's the case then Storm should have power equal to Phoenix by now...

#46 Posted by Mercy_ (83665 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Son Of Storm said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:
" This is completely non-canon, but in the X-Men: The End Magneto "died", only we find out that he wasn't actually dead, he was simply existing as a being of pure energy. So the potential is most certainly there. "
I could say something but I wont. Because if it does happen. I........will.....not....BE....HAPPY! "

What, if Mags gets confirmed before Ororo?

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#47 Posted by Son Of Storm (11239 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Son Of Storm said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" This is completely non-canon, but in the X-Men: The End Magneto "died", only we find out that he wasn't actually dead, he was simply existing as a being of pure energy. So the potential is most certainly there. "
I could say something but I wont. Because if it does happen. I........will.....not....BE....HAPPY! "
What, if Mags gets confirmed before Ororo? "

No. I don't really care either way.

If Marvel takes more than that from that story and Storm ends up a head in a chair.

#48 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress:
neither can be while they aernt immortal and/or have physicaly bodies

#49 Posted by Mercy_ (83665 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Valtot said:

" @The Dark Huntress: neither can be while they aernt immortal and/or have physicaly bodies "

Points to her post about X-Men: The End. And that's not necessarily a pre-requisite.

@Son Of Storm: Ohhhhhhh. I remember that. And Wolvie was her caretaker. Sooooooooo sweet. Her fight with the Super-Skrull was completely badass.

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#50 Posted by SC (9856 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@Son Of Storm said:

" @SC said:
" @Son Of Storm: Its probable whoever put her entry in whatever Marvel database was going off CC's interviews for New Excalibur.

Possibly. But if that's the case then Storm should have power equal to Phoenix by now... "

What do you mean? The poster recalled seeing Dazzler listed as an Omega, do you doubt their accuracy and think they saw Dagger instead or something? lol It has no actual bearing on what gets actually written, confirmed, shown, suggested, and importantly intended. Storm was written, confirmed, shown, suggested and intended to have power equal to Phoenix? Thats quite a specific leap unless you were referring jokingly to our other conversation that time? lol In which case I am far too serious to appreciate jokes.

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Magneto is one of the most infamous and powerful mutants, possessing mastery over magnetism. He has played many roles in his long life: prisoner, survivor, terrorist, savior, conqueror, teacher, villain, and anti-hero. Magneto is the X-Men's oldest foe, and one of their greatest allies.

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