Was it ever shown if Magneto could manipulate the metal Uru in Thor's hammer?
Magneto
Character » Magneto appears in 5885 issues.
Among the most powerful, recognizable, and infamous mutants to inhabit the planet Earth, Magneto was the X-Men's first major nemesis. Now known as a revolutionist and terrorist, Magneto has fought for the X-Men as many times as he’s been against them.
Magneto and Mjolnir?
Andferne says:
"Was it ever shown if Magneto could manipulate the metal Uru in Thor's hammer?"
What Valkaad said. ^^
Also I doubt he could, it has magic enchantments. And IMO Magic beats Nature.
Valkaad says:
"Andferne says:"Was it ever shown if Magneto could manipulate the metal Uru in Thor's hammer?"I don't know for sure, but I think someone would have to be more powerful than Odin to affect Mjolnir and it's enchantments and I just don't think Magneto qualifies."
That's what I thought but just wanted to get others opinions on the matter.
Thanx
Andferne says:
"Was it ever shown if Magneto could manipulate the metal Uru in Thor's hammer?"
To a certain extent. Magneto can both shield himself from Mjolnir (X-Men Vs. Avengers miniseries) and send it back to it's owner when thrown at him (an early Thor comic, I forget the number) that seems to be the utmost of his level of control over it.
Molecule Man destroyed once I think so I'm not sure that just because it's magic it can't be affected by something that isn't.
Buckshot says:
"Molecule Man destroyed once I think so I'm not sure that just because it's magic it can't be affected by something that isn't."
True, but molecule man was only second to the beyonder, anything lesser than that, besides odin, I don't think could or would affect mjolnir! I could be wrong, but thats just the way I see it!
My point is that he wasn't using magic to affect it, so just because Magneto's powers work through "science" doesn't automatically mean there's no way for him to affect Mjolnir if he were to try.
Buckshot says:
"My point is that he wasn't using magic to affect it, so just because Magneto's powers work through "science" doesn't automatically mean there's no way for him to affect Mjolnir if he were to try."
Yeah, I can't dispute that! it's a possability!
Buckshot says:
"My point is that he wasn't using magic to affect it, so just because Magneto's powers work through "science" doesn't automatically mean there's no way for him to affect Mjolnir if he were to try."
I think he could affect it by changing it's flight, re-directing it, etc. But I don't think his power is great enough to alter it's compostion. I have always seen uru as more of a stone than a metal. Just my opinion.
Valkaad says:
"I think he could affect it by changing it's flight, re-directing it, etc. But I don't think his power is great enough to alter it's compostion. I have always seen uru as more of a stone than a metal. Just my opinion."
At least his hammer looks more stone than metal but there are other things purported to be made out of uru that have a metallic look to them, as I recall. Anyway, I dont think there's enough evidence to be able to decide that he isn't powerful enough.
yes. in journey into mystery 109 magneto stopped mjoinir with a magnetic forcefield but thor later absorbed that magnetic energy with his hammer
I've changed my mind.
I think Magneto could at least levitate Mjiolnir. After all, it IS a metal, is it not? Regardless of the magic enchantments.
Only people I have ever seen do anything against the hammer are.....
"Only people I have ever seen do anything against the hammer are.....Him\Adam Warlock-Hammer was thrown at him..it hit him..did nothingGhost Rider-Hammer was thrown at him..he caught it..hit Thor with itDr.Doom-used magic to reflect itMolecule Man-destroyed itShe-Hulk-Hammer was thrown at her..she used Cap's shield to block it.I have not seen Magneto do anything with it so anyone who claims he can or did needs to show some proof or give some information or something."
The Destroyer destroys it. Journey into Mystery 119
Immortus drains time travel properties from it. Never recovered. Thor 282
Absorbing Man absorbs it. Thor 376
Perrikus cut it in half. Thor v2 11
"Vance Astro said:Nice...what about Magneto..."Only people I have ever seen do anything against the hammer are.....Him\Adam Warlock-Hammer was thrown at him..it hit him..did nothingGhost Rider-Hammer was thrown at him..he caught it..hit Thor with itDr.Doom-used magic to reflect itMolecule Man-destroyed itShe-Hulk-Hammer was thrown at her..she used Cap's shield to block it.I have not seen Magneto do anything with it so anyone who claims he can or did needs to show some proof or give some information or something."
The Destroyer destroys it. Journey into Mystery 119
Immortus drains time travel properties from it. Never recovered. Thor 282
Absorbing Man absorbs it. Thor 376
Perrikus cut it in half. Thor v2 11
"
"fesak said:"Vance Astro said:Nice...what about Magneto...""Only people I have ever seen do anything against the hammer are.....Him\Adam Warlock-Hammer was thrown at him..it hit him..did nothingGhost Rider-Hammer was thrown at him..he caught it..hit Thor with itDr.Doom-used magic to reflect itMolecule Man-destroyed itShe-Hulk-Hammer was thrown at her..she used Cap's shield to block it.I have not seen Magneto do anything with it so anyone who claims he can or did needs to show some proof or give some information or something."
The Destroyer destroys it. Journey into Mystery 119
Immortus drains time travel properties from it. Never recovered. Thor 282
Absorbing Man absorbs it. Thor 376
Perrikus cut it in half. Thor v2 11
"
No clue.
I suspect that the magical enchantment is stronger than Magneto's powers since Uru has great magical properties, and i think Uru is more of a mineral or stone than actual metal.
Magneto might be able to deflect a thrown Mjolnir at best.
I have nothing to back it up with though.
"Vance Astro said:Oh..ok."fesak said:"Vance Astro said:Nice...what about Magneto...""Only people I have ever seen do anything against the hammer are.....Him\Adam Warlock-Hammer was thrown at him..it hit him..did nothingGhost Rider-Hammer was thrown at him..he caught it..hit Thor with itDr.Doom-used magic to reflect itMolecule Man-destroyed itShe-Hulk-Hammer was thrown at her..she used Cap's shield to block it.I have not seen Magneto do anything with it so anyone who claims he can or did needs to show some proof or give some information or something."
The Destroyer destroys it. Journey into Mystery 119
Immortus drains time travel properties from it. Never recovered. Thor 282
Absorbing Man absorbs it. Thor 376
Perrikus cut it in half. Thor v2 11
"
No clue.
I suspect that the magical enchantment is stronger than Magneto's powers since Uru has great magical properties, and i think Uru is more of a mineral or stone than actual metal.
Magneto might be able to deflect a thrown Mjolnir at best.
I have nothing to back it up with though."
"*sigh*
Guys, this has happened.
Magneto has deflected blows from Mjolnir (X-Men vs. Avengers #1), and he has sent Mjolnir back to it's owner when thrown at him (Journey Into Mystery #109, and I believe an early issues of the Avengers as well, I'd have to look it up)."
Block, of course. Control, I don't think so. His power would have to be greater than Odin's enchantments.
"*sigh*She-Hulk deflected the hammer with Cap's shield..doesn't mean she can control it.The question was can Magneto control the hammer's metal?
Guys, this has happened.
Magneto has deflected blows from Mjolnir (X-Men vs. Avengers #1), and he has sent Mjolnir back to it's owner when thrown at him (Journey Into Mystery #109, and I believe an early issues of the Avengers as well, I'd have to look it up)."
"Pania said:"*sigh*She-Hulk deflected the hammer with Cap's shield..doesn't mean she can control it.The question was can Magneto control the hammer's metal?"
Guys, this has happened.
Magneto has deflected blows from Mjolnir (X-Men vs. Avengers #1), and he has sent Mjolnir back to it's owner when thrown at him (Journey Into Mystery #109, and I believe an early issues of the Avengers as well, I'd have to look it up)."
And I say to thee, Nay!
Magneto's shields are strong enough to take a direct blow from Mjolnir and She Hulk simultaneously. (This is Magneto at his weakest when he was headmaster of Xavier's school.)
Mags controls Mjolnir directly. (Very early mags appearance. Magneto was much weaker here than after he was age regressed and reaged.)
if thor was present he could command his hammer to resist his magnetic field or even absorb it or cancel it out.
i dont think Magneto has the power to stop the hammer from returning to thor althou he could slow it down if thor allowed it.
basically it comes to thor willing his hammer to put a resistance or immunity... without thor present Magneto could manipulate it
magneto can only control Thors hammer when thor is holding it (he can not lift it otherwise, because it becomes to heavy even magneto has a limit), but the Hammer has magnetic properties of its own and it can also take magnetos powers away. that said they have fought a few times (Thor wins the majority) but i think if they ever had an all out no holding back fight it could be evenly machted sinse magneto has a reaction time 14 times better than the average human
did mags use his power to move the hammer along with thor in avengers 401/402 onslaught tie-in?
might be mistaken as its been a while since ive read it !!!
Magneto has used his powers to redirect and move Mjolnir. Its unknown whether there was resistance being applied by Thor. This happened in I believe there first match up. Early Thor run, Thor #104 or near about. As to the extent of which Magneto could manipulate the hammer? I would postulate the more resistance applied by Thor the less, Magneto could move it about physically, as to whether he could reshape it? I'd say, probably not, again depending on how much effort he was exerting. Not in any sense that this would be a practical option he could use against Thor if they ever came to clash.
Magneto has used his powers to redirect and move Mjolnir. Its unknown whether there was resistance being applied by Thor. This happened in I believe there first match up. Early Thor run, Thor #104 or near about. As to the extent of which Magneto could manipulate the hammer? I would postulate the more resistance applied by Thor the less, Magneto could move it about physically, as to whether he could reshape it? I'd say, probably not, again depending on how much effort he was exerting. Not in any sense that this would be a practical option he could use against Thor if they ever came to clash.QFTI am not sure how other subjects came up, but its probably worth mentioning that Thor and Magneto, as characters don't quite work like on and off light switches. If Thor strikes at Magneto, that is not the minimum, or maximum or consistent value as to which Thor can strike someone at. Likewise this applies to Magneto and almost all other characters.
@Hoboseid said:
Ultimates Magento made a fool of Thor
Ultimate Universe should never come up when dealing with 616. lol
@lilron890 said:
Well since on the marvel website it says magneto can control all metal i belive he can control thors hammer.
I point to Non-ferrous metals. That's not to say that Magneto couldn't do something with them, but that's to say that actively manipulating metals should come on a case by case bases rather than sweeping generalizations. Especially when it comes to metals existent only in the Marvel Universe such as adamantium, vibranium, uru, and the various organic forms of materials that mutants are capable of becoming or being made of.
He wielded it in Ultimatum Vol 1 #5 and in Ultimates 3 Vol 1 #5. The pic is from Ultimates 3. I'll edit this and add more pics later.
@Soulstealer said:
@Hoboseid said:
Ultimates Magento made a fool of Thor
Ultimate Universe should never come up when dealing with 616. lol
@lilron890 said:
Well since on the marvel website it says magneto can control all metal i belive he can control thors hammer.I point to Non-ferrous metals. That's not to say that Magneto couldn't do something with them, but that's to say that actively manipulating metals should come on a case by case bases rather than sweeping generalizations. Especially when it comes to metals existent only in the Marvel Universe such as adamantium, vibranium, uru, and the various organic forms of materials that mutants are capable of becoming or being made of.
I agree with that completely
@Queso6p4 said:
He wielded it in Ultimatum Vol 1 #5 and in Ultimates 3 Vol 1 #5. The pic is from Ultimates 3. I'll edit this and add more pics later.
awesome pic!
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