Was Illyana suppose to have a russian accent?

#1 Posted by 244 (497 posts) - - Show Bio

I was reading bits from New Mutants and I noticed Illyana's speech pattern is more of a typical american. Originally, her speech pattern was like her brother's.

#2 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Blame it on the time she spent in Limbo

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#3 Posted by 244 (497 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really. She still couldn't speak english when she escaped  Limbo so she must've been speaking russian the whole time. I'm guessing Chris Claremont has taken some missteps in her character but that's just my guess.

#4 Posted by 244 (497 posts) - - Show Bio

I can see your point there, Phoenix of the Black Throne, but I remember reading Uncanny X-men #160 about the time she was abducted by Belasco. When she ecaped seven years later, she still spoke russian and Professor X taught her english telepathically. I liked Illyana's characterization in the beginning of New Mutants but it suffered in the middle of the series. I remember her behaving cold and apathetic with a no-nonsence attitude whenever she becomes evil but I feel Chris Claremont decided to make her a bit wild with a touch of a "devil-may-care" attitude.

#5 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio

 

   
In the two instances she has spoken, she has had Russian accents both times. 
 
 
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#7 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
@Illyana Rasputin said:
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i thought illyana was immune to telepaths.
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#8 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized: You're right. I imagine Illyana would have to willingly allow Xavier to enter her mind, even subconsciously. Perhaps she is only immune to invasive psychic attacks? That, or it is an oversight.  
#9 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized said:
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i thought illyana was immune to telepaths. "
Classic example of Claremont getting his own storylines mixed up.  Don't forget, he had her using magic on Earth to begin with, but he later retconned that to 'she can only use magic in Limbo, and summon her Soulsword on Earth).  During the New Mutants, the Professor could only read her mind when she'd left her Soulsword in Limbo/tried to purge herself of the Darkchilde (issue 50).  It wasn't clearly explained, and was handled in the typical  blasé way that comics would abuse characters in any way possible to further the plot. 
 
Anyway, Illyana spoke English during the Illyana & Storm: Magik mini series.  Personally, I figure she learnt a foreign language from people who spoke that language in a foreign world.  She has also been forced to speak it since she was about 5 or 6, with little need to speak Russian since she was a little girl.  Therefore her English accent is more Americanised than Colossus' was to begin with :)
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#10 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

So where does she stand now? Still unable to have her mind read?

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#11 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

No idea.  Has anyone tried to read her mind since she's come back?  Blindfold was able to predict the future & therefore knew that Illyana was lying... but that doesn't mean she knew what she was thinking by reading her mind.

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#12 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised the Cuckoos didn't make a comment about it in that one issue of X-Force where they're all 2 feet away from each other
 

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#13 Edited by 244 (497 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:

" Anyway, Illyana spoke English during the Illyana & Storm: Magik mini series.  Personally, I figure she learnt a foreign language from people who spoke that language in a foreign world.  She has also been forced to speak it since she was about 5 or 6, with little need to speak Russian since she was a little girl. "

When I was reading the Magik Limited Series, I assumed the characters spoke russian to Illyana ever since Professor X telepathically taught the X-men that language so the six year old Illyana could feel comfortable staying with them. After ecaping Limbo, She Still spoke russian. Even Belasco could speak russian from Uncanny X-men #160. I'm just glad Zeb Wells depicted her respectfully.
#14 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@244 said:
" @xerox-kitty said:

" Anyway, Illyana spoke English during the Illyana & Storm: Magik mini series.  Personally, I figure she learnt a foreign language from people who spoke that language in a foreign world.  She has also been forced to speak it since she was about 5 or 6, with little need to speak Russian since she was a little girl. "

When I was reading the Magik Limited Series, I assumed the characters spoke russian to Illyana ever since Professor X telepathically taught the X-men that language so the six year old Illyana could feel comfortable staying with them. After ecaping Limbo, She Still spoke russian. Even Belasco could speak russian from Uncanny X-men #160. I'm just glad Zeb Wells depicted her respectfully. "
Sometimes, he dismisses previous interpretations of her character, but she definitely seems more "noble" (?) in his writing.
#15 Posted by 244 (497 posts) - - Show Bio
@Illyana Rasputin: I guess the word "respectfully" isn't the correct word for me to use so it's more like keeping with the character flow based from her back story without the inconsistencies (I still dislike the slumber party issue). Believe me, I don't hate the previous writers for the inconsistencies, it just irks me.
#16 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@244 said:
" @Illyana Rasputin: I guess the word "respectfully" isn't the correct word for me to use so it's more like keeping with the character flow based from her back story without the inconsistencies (I still dislike the slumber party issue). Believe me, I don't hate the previous writers for the inconsistencies, it just irks me. "
Sometimes, it irks me, too.

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