Off My Mind: Possible Directions for the Next 'Star Wars' Trilogy

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#101 Posted by MisterKetch (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@HexThis said:

I think the Knights of the Republic were better written than any Star Wars movie in the last quarter century. Why not base something on that? Kreia, anyone?

Im not much of a Star Wars fan but would love to see a trilogy based out of the Old Republic era

#102 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3699 posts) - - Show Bio

Old Republic and the Thrawn trilogy. Maybe even the Force Unleashed

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#103 Posted by GiveUpNed (73 posts) - - Show Bio

@StMichalofWilson said:

Old Republic and the Thrawn trilogy. Maybe even the Force Unleashed

Seconded for the Thawn Trilogy. I'd also like to see the X-Wing series made into a TV show. That would be glorious if it's done well.

#104 Posted by LenSnart (160 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope they dont take inspiration from the comics, ther terrible!

#105 Posted by tomdickharry1984 (834 posts) - - Show Bio

I say bring it on!!!!! Just hop they good is all, not like 1-2-3

#106 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthLydia said:

*ahem* for the record, 7, 8, 9 are going to be based on the "treatments" written by George Lucas which he himself stated have no connection to the existing EU. Therefore, they are going to be original stories not seen before. However... after 7,8,9 they are free, have been given a green light, to make use of any and all materials from the EU.

If more than half the EU is gone after the third trilogy, there really will not be a point to adapting old EU.

Also, I guess they could stop making "Episodes" and trilogies and instead just explore secondary characters or other parts of the timeline but again, why try this sort of thing? People tend to want to see what happens next to familiar characters and I really do not see a studio risking to confuse the audience by producing movies set in different time periods.

#107 Posted by hortrorog (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Old Republic is so overrated.

Kotor was good, the comics are good, but thats all. There are far more interesting stories in SW...

#108 Posted by bloggerboy (543 posts) - - Show Bio

@hortrorog said:

Old Republic is so overrated.

Kotor was good, the comics are good, but thats all. There are far more interesting stories in SW...

Can you give any examples?

#109 Posted by DarthLydia (107 posts) - - Show Bio
Just because the stories are new and something we have not seen before does not mean the EU will be wiped out. That's a leap in reasoning that doesn't even follow. It could leave the EU relatively untouched

@DarthShap said:

@DarthLydia said:

*ahem* for the record, 7, 8, 9 are going to be based on the "treatments" written by George Lucas which he himself stated have no connection to the existing EU. Therefore, they are going to be original stories not seen before. However... after 7,8,9 they are free, have been given a green light, to make use of any and all materials from the EU.

If more than half the EU is gone after the third trilogy, there really will not be a point to adapting old EU.

Also, I guess they could stop making "Episodes" and trilogies and instead just explore secondary characters or other parts of the timeline but again, why try this sort of thing? People tend to want to see what happens next to familiar characters and I really do not see a studio risking to confuse the audience by producing movies set in different time periods.

#110 Posted by Cancer the Conqueror (78 posts) - - Show Bio

I totally understand your point of the film series being primarily about the life of Vader, but to get this new trilogy to work it must extend beyond that. Now about the Skywalker family amidst galactic events, a story on the life of Ben Skywalker would be cool, trying to live up to his father's legacy. I have very little knowledge of the Expanded Universe, so I'm not the best opinion on this. I find it funny that the Expanded Universe spawned out of adaptations of the films, and now the films' future lies in adapting the Expanded Universe.

#111 Posted by braynehurricane (129 posts) - - Show Bio

I know this has already been said but I am totally on board for the Thrawn trilogy. I could even, maybe - MAYBE, forgive a recast if we were basing the story off those wonderful books.

#112 Posted by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio

Star wars is still relevant?

#113 Posted by DarthLydia (107 posts) - - Show Bio
Omg what are you even doing here?

@turoksonofstone said:

Star wars is still relevant?

#114 Edited by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthLydia said:

Just because the stories are new and something we have not seen before does not mean the EU will be wiped out. That's a leap in reasoning that doesn't even follow. It could leave the EU relatively untouched

How exactly would it leave it untouched? The only way to do so would be to set the story 200 years later and never to mention what happened in between and it is safe to say it is not going to happen.

What it is probably going to happen is what just happened with TCW. They will want to tell stories about a time period which is already filled and the contradictions will keep on occurring, so much so that there will not be anything left of the old EU by the time the movie is over.

They are going to use the New Jedi Order but it probably will not be on Yavin IV and none of the Jedi will be the same. They will probably talk about the Han-Leia romance but they are not going to want to use what happened in the novels and the comics, they will want to tell their own version of how the two married and had kids.

#115 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cancer the Conqueror said:

I totally understand your point of the film series being primarily about the life of Vader, but to get this new trilogy to work it must extend beyond that. Now about the Skywalker family amidst galactic events, a story on the life of Ben Skywalker would be cool, trying to live up to his father's legacy. I have very little knowledge of the Expanded Universe, so I'm not the best opinion on this. I find it funny that the Expanded Universe spawned out of adaptations of the films, and now the films' future lies in adapting the Expanded Universe.

Except it is not going to adapt the EU apparently. It is going to be an original story: http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/10/31/news-star-wars-episode-vii-will-be-an-original-story

#116 Posted by alex6166 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

My guess it will take place in space. I'm very non-commital about that.

#117 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

How about facial mapping using the original cast and de-aging them digitally?

#118 Posted by whitelantern64 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

apprently lucas had written star wars as a 12 part epic so itll be interesting to see what the next 6 episodes are like.

#119 Posted by fps_dean (255 posts) - - Show Bio

As long as don't have Jar Jar Binks, it's sure to be better than the last trilogy.

#120 Posted by jstndmnd (995 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey, George did a great job creating star wars, but the prequel should have been written and directed by someone else. I think George didn't do such a great job preserving the quality and spirit of star wars at the end so hopefully Disney can. I can' wait for the new movies.

#122 Posted by The Impersonator (5083 posts) - - Show Bio

Disney will ruin Star Wars.

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#123 Posted by mightypug78 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

they should use the orginal actors and do the 25 years later thing with the yuuzhan vong. they should use make up if they have and maybe a little cgi but not too much lol. on the list of the most bad ass villians in star war, the yuuzhan vong are up there a pretty good ways. :D

#124 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

#125 Posted by Dark Cell (447 posts) - - Show Bio

Why dose it have to be around the film area? Why cant it be Old Republic or another era.

#126 Posted by henkuo (8 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Impersonator said:

Disney will ruin Star Wars.

Like they ruined Marvel?

#127 Posted by ALdragon17 (126 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd never liked Cade Skywalker using death stick not to see the future. If I had any power I would force lighting and than later force storm him. He's a very deeply flawed character, space pirate for something. I think Lucas should've gave Star Wars to DC comics and not Disney.

#128 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6954 posts) - - Show Bio

I am actually not that mad that Disney bought Star Wars. True, that some people may not find that appealing, but Disney has a way of making things interesting, and has a very good track record in the movie making department. So kudos to them.

#129 Posted by TheMess1428 (2176 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: I don't care for the changes he made to the original trilogy after they came out and I don't acknowledge them. I acknowledge the prequels though. And I acknowledge the novels and video games. That's enough for me.

#130 Posted by Mister_Sensational (178 posts) - - Show Bio

I can totally accept Cade as the central protagonist of a new trilogy! For starters his timeline (138 after the events of the first movie) puts him just far enough away from the original trilogy that everything that happens after it in the EU stories (i.e. the Thrawn trilogy) can still happen. Plus since he is a completely new character, in a completely new time period Disney can feel free to cast an entirely new cast of young, fresh actors, and still maybe get Mark Hamil to cameo as a force ghost Luke Skywalker (it's like having your cake and eating it too!). Besides when it comes to the original cast reprising their old roles lets be honest here not all of the original cast may even be up to it, I mean read that Lucas met with Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher but who knows when's the last time he has spoke to Harrison Ford. Speaking of Han Solo that's another thing that's great about Cade, he's like Han and Luke all rolled into one with the whole being a Jedi turned smuggler and all, with both of their strengths and weaknesses. Lastly with the Legacy comics a writer can have more leeway with the already established story, don't get me wrong I enjoyed the entire legacy series but if a story arc or two was left out in order to keep the movie from being too long than so be it. I don't feel novels give a writer the same leeway and hardcore fans of the novels will what to see pretty much everything they've read in those novels over the years to be translated to the screen, on the other hand one of the first things we comic book lovers had to learn to deal with during the comic book movie boom of the last decade is that the story told on the screen will not be exactly as we first read it in the comics and will almost certainly have some major changes.

#131 Posted by FanofUltraman (153 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole idea was that the War in the Stars ended when the Emperor was killed, bringing balance to The Force and stabilizing the galaxy.

#132 Edited by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of Disney's movies nowadays are either directed towards children who find it funny to have a fart joke every other scene, or teenaged girls who find Zack and Cody adorable. They've not been a high class or high quality movie producer overall in a while. They're hit or miss. Part of that's my opinion, part of it is numbers; they just don't have huge oomph, and they like to buy everything and twist it around to try and make themselves more money.

I can't stand the thought of Disney making new Star Wars films. I'll look at the first one and see what it's like, but if it doesn't look, sound or review well, I'm not seeing it. If Disney ruins the next trilogy, the trilogy must die a quiet death so as to not taint what George Lucas has done (granted, the prequels weren't masterpieces at all, but they were probably better than what Disney's going to be spitting at us). This could be a bad, bad time for Star Wars, if Disney screws it up.

EDIT: I credit Marvel with the latest movies like Iron Man and Avengers, not Disney, even though Disney bought Marvel. It's Marvel's characters, they're Marvel's stories; Disney just got lucky. Marvel is the true force behind the movies.

#133 Posted by TheHT (72 posts) - - Show Bio

On the one hand, Star Wars is a big freaking deal, so they'd be smart to tread carefully and give it some serious thought. On the other hand, it WILL make lots of money, so they could just ham em out. That it's suppsedly to be a trilogy though would lend credence to the former though. If they really wanted to take advantage of the franchise, you'd think making the films with everything that made the original trilogy such a classic in mind would yield the best results, both financially and critically. That said, trying to latch on to either trilogy directly by way of focusing on their main characters doesn't sound very interesting to me. I don't want more Anakin or more Han. I want something new and intriguing and most of all something that takes advantage of that big universe, BBY or ABY.

#134 Posted by Mezmero (898 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan so I'm not sure what to make of this news. I just hope we get a cooler portrayal of the Imperial Guards this time around. I never read those Kir Kanos comics but I've always liked the idea of warriors who are bad ass enough to guard Palpatine in some sick red armor. I loved the KOTOR games' depiction of Jedis and Sith so I hope some of that stuff gets pulled into this new continuity. More droids and bounty hunters would be nice too.

#135 Posted by christopherwalken (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh...

#136 Posted by brightstarr731 (32 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123: Marvel is no more in charge of the movies than GL will be the Star Wars ones. You contradict yourself, and as such lose credibility.

#137 Posted by Zoch81 (226 posts) - - Show Bio

cool new star wars film can't wait

#138 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@brightstarr731 said:

@minigunman123: Marvel is no more in charge of the movies than GL will be the Star Wars ones. You contradict yourself, and as such lose credibility.

George Lucas actually does have a ton of influence on where the Disney movies are going to go, actually. It is Disney's final move, but he set it up for them and is going to be a supervisor for them. Marvel made the characters and stories that Disney made the movies for, based off the characters, so they have some credit for making the movies, but I don't really think of Disney when I think of Iron Man, just like nobody thinks of Warner Brothers when they think of Batman Begins, they think of DC and Christopher Nolan.

You fail to think things through, and as such lose credibility.

#139 Edited by Dedpool (303 posts) - - Show Bio

Well it's been said that Episode VII will not be from the expanded universe, which is a bummer but not horrible. I say lets appease everyone. Do some animated films in the style of CLone Wars for stuff like "Shaodws of the Empire," and the other expanded universe stuff inbetween Episode VI and the Yuhzahn Vong stuff, and then do a live action film series of the Yuhzahn vong arc as Everyone is about the right age for their characters. Do some games on the level of Knights of the old repulic" but about the expanded universe as well. And finally do an animated or live action Legacy series.

#140 Posted by ReadingRainbow (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, why is Knights of the Old Republic not being used? It's an amazing tale.

#141 Posted by Funrush (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

You know, now that I think about it, this explains all the Star Wars movies being released again. Does this also mean that we'll get to 'Return' by '15?

#142 Posted by mtbmonkey (52 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been a many things in my life. For this thread, I will only name a few. I'm a comic book book nerd. I'm a Disney fan. Lastly, I'm a Star Wars geek. I have been curious about the purchase of Lucas for sometime. It was inevitable. Lucas never wanted to go forward, after Episode 3. The people at Dark Horse have done lots to push the mythos further than anyone.

Disney has become a media juggernaut. That's a fact that can't be denied. It doesn't mean that they ruin everything that they touch. What it could mean is they have all the best talent. Did Disney ruin Marvel? I don't think so. Has Disney ruined Marvel movies? NO! Look at the Avengers.

#143 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

@Funrush: Return is coming in 2013.

In another note, they should go with the Thrawn Trilogy. It's so perfect. Or, Dark Empire.

Or if they want to ruin continuity, combine the two.

#144 Edited by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123 said:

@brightstarr731 said:

@minigunman123: Marvel is no more in charge of the movies than GL will be the Star Wars ones. You contradict yourself, and as such lose credibility.

George Lucas actually does have a ton of influence on where the Disney movies are going to go, actually. It is Disney's final move, but he set it up for them and is going to be a supervisor for them. Marvel made the characters and stories that Disney made the movies for, based off the characters, so they have some credit for making the movies, but I don't really think of Disney when I think of Iron Man, just like nobody thinks of Warner Brothers when they think of Batman Begins, they think of DC and Christopher Nolan.

You fail to think things through, and as such lose credibility.

The thing is, I am pretty sure he does not care where Disney is going to take Star Wars. Officially, he was also supervisor on TCW but it obviously was not something he really was into. It was part of the EU, not part of the six part story about Anakin he wanted to tell.

Now that he has finished his story, all that he sold was the right to use the universe in order to tell new stories. These new stories might be based on drafts he wrote decades ago for a 9 or a 12 movies saga but it is not going to be his story anymore.

In my opinion, he no longer cares about Star Wars and he will only have little to do with the new movies.

Having said that, I think I trust Disney here. Sure, I hate the fact that this is going to destroy more than half the EU and to me it makes no sense to call it "Episode VII" because that story is over, but Disney definitely can hire the best writers and the best directors. They did a great job with Pixar and Marvel.

#145 Posted by Funrush (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716 said:

@Funrush: Return is coming in 2013.

In another note, they should go with the Thrawn Trilogy. It's so perfect. Or, Dark Empire.

Or if they want to ruin continuity, combine the two.

Wait, what? I thought we were just getting Attack and Revenge in 2013.

#146 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

@Funrush: My bad, i messed up. Sorry,

2017 i think.

#147 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dedpool said:

Well it's been said that Episode VII will not be from the expanded universe, which is a bummer but not horrible. I say lets appease everyone. Do some animated films in the style of CLone Wars for stuff like "Shaodws of the Empire," and the other expanded universe stuff inbetween Episode VI and the Yuhzahn Vong stuff, and then do a live action film series of the Yuhzahn vong arc as Everyone is about the right age for their characters. Do some games on the level of Knights of the old repulic" but about the expanded universe as well. And finally do an animated or live action Legacy series.

You do understand that if the new trilogy ignores the EU but still takes place at the same time and uses the same characters, it is going to destroy it completely. I mean just take a look at what TCW did to the 2002-2006 Clone Wars EU. This is basically the same thing except that time around, it is going to affect more than twenty years of EU and half a century of post-ROTJ in-universe timeline.

#148 Posted by JohnReese (15 posts) - - Show Bio

Just wish they would start with Cade Skywalker,would make a lot of sense and still be able to bring earlier cast back as ghosts.Its such a shame we might not see Han Solo in that,he is one of my favourite characters.

#149 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7596 posts) - - Show Bio

I read that the new movies will not be based on any of the books/comics of the EU. That is will be an original story written solely for the movie.

#150 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (6954 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123:

How can you only accredit the Avengers and Marvel movies as Disney getting lucky. I say Disney was a major factor into actually taking these characters to the big screen. The whole premise of Disney buying Marvel was because they saw the great potential in growth for them. Disney has done alot of wonderful things and I find it very disheartening when you sum up their moves as "fart jokes" and "for children". The one thing I found great about Disney is that their movies often have mature themes intertwined with their humor. Just look at The Toy Story movies. It's true that Disney has some pretty big misses, but so do every other major production company. Being quite honest here, I personally believe 100% that Star Wars movies made by Disney would be better than anything George Lucas would be able to do, aside from the originals of course. To be better than the prequels won't be too difficult as they were horrendous beyond words. If Disney was to truly focus on the Star Wars film, giving it as much attention as the Marvel films, then everything will be good. Their ability to story tell is, without a doubt, the best in the industry. As long as they sprinkle some of their Disney charm and make their character's memorable, unique, and loveable, then they will have a recipe for success.

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