Whats Lex Luthors Beef With Superman

#1 Posted by conorbas440044 (23 posts) - - Show Bio

My feelings on the subject is Lex wants everyone to love him for all his gifts but all the people of metropolis love superman who has a hudge advantage superpowers and hes not even from our planet. he didnt have to do anything to be great just sunbathe in yellow sunlight. In mark waids superman birthright story waids shows superman and lexes first beef as superman being kind of a dick to lex at there first meeting and lex being super butt hurt for no reason it wasnt convicing enough to warrent a hardcore grudge but all star superman 5 explains it pretty well. But i like the idea of the Joker thinking of batman as his faverite toy the incoruptable unstopable immovable object maybe lex luthor needs to admit he would be bored without superman. how do you guys feel?

#2 Posted by sinestro_GL (3323 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel that Luthor is the best written villain - because in his mind, he isn't a villain.

He sees Kal-El as a threat to his attempts to make the world a better place - its too bad that his mind is weak and he's an egocentric guy, and that he wants to be the undisputed champion of man.

#3 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by Herokiller12344 (997 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even think Luthor knows why he hates Superman at this point.

#5 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex hates Superman because up until the Man of Steel came onto the scene, Lex was the epitome of success and power in Metropolis.

Lex was intelligent, rich, powerful, feared and respected. He still is, but all that pales in comparison to the power and prestige of Supeman. Except for his intellect, Lex can't compete with Superman. Superman is now the most powerful and iconic figure in Metropolis and Lex is now second fiddle.

Lex feels inferior to and jealous of Superman.

#6 Posted by Skunkstein (591 posts) - - Show Bio

Its High School all over again.

Lex was the cheerleading queen, until Clark - the new sexy mofo walked into class.

#7 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@royale_with_cheese said:

lol

#8 Posted by joshmightbe (24773 posts) - - Show Bio

Look at it from his point of view, in the comics(post crisis/pre new 52) he's a self made billionaire with charities and he basically made Metropolis the city it is and he wants more than anything to be the hero of the story but as long as Superman exists his options are play second fiddle as a hero or be the best villain and he just isn't capable of allowing himself to be second best

#9 Edited by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

#10 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

Jealousy.

#11 Posted by joshmightbe (24773 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kal'smahboi: How did I imply that Lex was the Joker? They are 2 completely different characters with totally different motivations. I'm not one of those people that think Joker sees himself as a hero, he's a monster, he knows it and revels in the fact. Lex on the other hand honestly believes he's the hero of the story, he just believes the bad things he does are justifiable because his ego will not allow him to see himself as the real bad guy no matter what he does.

#12 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: Not you, buddy. That's what the OP suggested happen. I totally agree with you, Lex has delusions of grandeur and his mind twists reality to fit his goals.
#13 Posted by joshmightbe (24773 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kal'smahboi: If anything Lex is the Joker's polar opposite. Lex is a totalitarian by nature where as Joker is the ultimate anarchist. I also believe the OP has a misunderstanding of what Joker is as well, Batman isn't his toy, he's his obsession. I look at Joker's view on Batman as more comparable to a hard core alcoholic's view on alcohol.

#14 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: That's a very interesting way to put it. Accurate I think, too.
#15 Posted by nickzambuto (15031 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein said:

Its High School all over again.

Lex was the cheerleading queen, until Clark - the new sexy mofo walked into class.

That's one way of looking at it I suppose.

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#16 Posted by warlord1234 (1276 posts) - - Show Bio

He feels that Superman has taken his spot light. Despite all that Lex is still an evil man.

#17 Posted by Onemoreposter (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@conorbas440044: Long story short? Superman made Lex bald, and Lex lost his $h!t.

Ironically, that experiment Lex is talking about was an attempt to come up with a cure for Superman's aversion to kryptonite.

#18 Posted by BlackReaper (595 posts) - - Show Bio

@Onemoreposter said:

@conorbas440044: Long story short? Superman made Lex bald, and Lex lost his $h!t.

Ironically, that experiment Lex is talking about was an attempt to come up with a cure for Superman's aversion to kryptonite.

Placing a bottle of acid near his sole bottle of the antidote.

#19 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem with Lex (And the reason why he's one of the most complex villains in the business) is that you can't really sum up his motivation in just one sentence.

This is a good article on him.

#20 Posted by AmazingWebHead (4509 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex is also a hardcore xenophobe. Meaning he also hates Superman just for being an alien.

And then there's the Silver Age origin, where he blames Superman for his baldness.

#21 Posted by AmazingWebHead (4509 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

Superman Returns already did that. And anyone who knows me knows that I hate that movie with a burning passion.

#22 Posted by Howard_The-Duck (266 posts) - - Show Bio

He has a luscious head of hair while Lex is stuck being bald and he want to harvest Superman's DNA in hope of getting hair as beautiful as his

#23 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

Superman Returns already did that. And anyone who knows me knows that I hate that movie with a burning passion.

...I don't think Returns did that at all.

#24 Edited by AmazingWebHead (4509 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal_smahboi said:

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

Superman Returns already did that. And anyone who knows me knows that I hate that movie with a burning passion.

...I don't think Returns did that at all.

The Editing Room disagrees. Read it for yourself

#25 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

Because clark is an alien. Lex wants to be the Xerxes of DC Earth

#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

Superman Returns already did that. And anyone who knows me knows that I hate that movie with a burning passion.

...I don't think Returns did that at all.

The Editing Room disagrees. Read it for yourself

But that's sooooo long. Can't you just summarize it for me?

It really doesn't matter what they say, anyway. I've seen the movie a thousand times and I can't imagine they'll say anything that'll make me think they portrayed Luthor like the Joker.

#27 Edited by AmazingWebHead (4509 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal_smahboi said:

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

@amazingwebhead said:

@kal_smahboi said:

Yeah, you're right. We should make Lex Luthor the Joker. Let's just make every villain the Joker.

Superman Returns already did that. And anyone who knows me knows that I hate that movie with a burning passion.

...I don't think Returns did that at all.

The Editing Room disagrees. Read it for yourself

But that's sooooo long. Can't you just summarize it for me?

It really doesn't matter what they say, anyway. I've seen the movie a thousand times and I can't imagine they'll say anything that'll make me think they portrayed Luthor like the Joker.

The exact line was "KATE BOSWORTH: Meh, the whole movie already feels like it's just a bunch of kids playing comic book dress-up. The only person not sleepwalking through this thing is Kevin Spacey, who seems to think he's playing The Joker." I think they were talking about what a ham Luthor was. "WROOOOOOOONG!"

Anyway, they got some really funny stuff on that site.

#28 Edited by Cloakx14 (3999 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex hates Superman because up until the Man of Steel came onto the scene, Lex was the epitome of success and power in Metropolis.

Lex was intelligent, rich, powerful, feared and respected. He still is, but all that pales in comparison to the power and prestige of Supeman. Except for his intellect, Lex can't compete with Superman. Superman is now the most powerful and iconic figure in Metropolis and Lex is now second fiddle.

Lex feels inferior to and jealous of Superman.

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#29 Posted by LarryAshlynn (798 posts) - - Show Bio

Its High School all over again.

Lex was the cheerleading queen, until Clark - the new sexy mofo walked into class.

#30 Posted by BlueBeetle1 (1304 posts) - - Show Bio

Jealousy.

#31 Posted by RandyPan (235 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, there was the cake incident...

Also, does anyone else think this song fits Luthor's attitude toward Superman perfectly?

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