Do you think lex luthor is black in justice league cartoons?

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#1 Edited by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

Justice league unlimited to be more specific. A friend and I have been debating this for a while, and since I don't have contact info for bruce tim you guys can settle this for me.

#2 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

No, I don't think he's black.

And people also think that Two-Face was black in Batman: TAS. He was Italian. They even wanted Al Paccino to do the voice, but he turned it down.

#3 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

His design was inspired by Telly Savalas and his features are meant to be suggestively Greek.  You can hear Timm and others talk about it in the commentary tracks of the Superman cartoon.

#4 Posted by Manchine (4173 posts) - - Show Bio

Black no.... Just well tanned. =)

#5 Posted by The Stegman (24627 posts) - - Show Bio

mixed maybe, no way he's white and THAT tan

#6 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrMiracle77 said:
His design was inspired by Telly Savalas and his features are meant to be suggestively Greek.  You can hear Timm and others talk about it in the commentary tracks of the Superman cartoon.
This.  
 
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is Timm's favourite James Bond film for some unthinkable reason, and Telly Savalas' Blofeld was the inspiration for STAS' Lex Luthor's appearance. 
#7 Posted by bewarethedarkness (10 posts) - - Show Bio

No, he just uses tanning lamps to keep his office well lighted.

#8 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29501 posts) - - Show Bio

@bewarethedarkness said:

No, he just uses tanning lamps to keep his office well lighted.

These tanning lamps also have a "red sun" feature. ;)

#9 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

You learn something everyday, I thought he was black as wel in the cartoon.

#10 Posted by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont have a problem with characters like nick fury who cant make up their mind. But i dont think luthor has ever been potrayed as black before.

#11 Posted by Marve1CaptainCarnage (28 posts) - - Show Bio

i think hes just really really tan but not black

#12 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeeeeeesss

#13 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao so it wasn't just me? As a child I assumed he was biracial because of his voice, skin tone, and big ass full lips.

#14 Posted by mikex20 (2769 posts) - - Show Bio

No

#15 Edited by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightrise: Seeee, I knew I wasn't the only one who thought that too. Apparently though, he's based on Telly Savalas, only more tan. *roles eyes*

#16 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15: Yeah, I learned that above. I remember way back (14-15 years ago when I was a wee SquireRise) thinking something like "That's nice to see racial diversity in this modern version of Lex Luthor compared to the Super Friend's rendition". I was an advanced five year old.

*before I knew anything about comics

#17 Posted by daredevil21134 (11898 posts) - - Show Bio

He's the blackest white man I ever seen

#18 Posted by Bogey (948 posts) - - Show Bio

Facepalm at this whole post.

#20 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

i thought he was because that was a real dark tan.

#22 Posted by _slim_ (13082 posts) - - Show Bio

Luthor don't look like a camel.

#23 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio
#24 Posted by lifeofvibe (3494 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Edited by Oscuro (1090 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21932 posts) - - Show Bio

@bogey said:

Facepalm at this whole post.

never even crossed by mind until like 3 months ago when I was watching and my older brother asks why he's black, and im just like... okay......

#27 Edited by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

And if that doesn't convince you:

"From one brotha to anotha"

#28 Posted by GrenadeFlow (1538 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought he was lightskin black

#29 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15 said:

And if that doesn't convince you:

"From one brotha to anotha"

I knew it! His mom is white and that's his half brother, La'darell Luthor!

#30 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe he's biracial.

But I think he's just a tan white guy.

#31 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15 said:

And if that doesn't convince you:

"From one brotha to anotha"

I knew it! His mom is white and that's his half brother, La'darell Luthor!

LOL xD.

Maybe he's biracial.

But I think he's just a tan white guy.

*facepalm*

#32 Edited by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15 said:

@knightrise said:

@ganon15 said:

And if that doesn't convince you:

"From one brotha to anotha"

I knew it! His mom is white and that's his half brother, La'darell Luthor!

LOL xD.

@martianmanhunterisbetterthancy said:

Maybe he's biracial.

But I think he's just a tan white guy.

*facepalm*

Why are you facepalming? I'm just going along with the joke.

So *facepalm* to your comment.

#33 Posted by _slim_ (13082 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15: Still doesn't look like a camel.

#34 Edited by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

@ganon15: Still doesn't look like a camel.

Where's the camel?

#35 Posted by batmannflash (6224 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he's black

#36 Edited by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmannflash said:

I don't think he's black

Well then that's the blackest looking caucasian I've ever seen then. LOL

#37 Posted by JetiiMitra (8663 posts) - - Show Bio

No, he isn't.

#38 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6349 posts) - - Show Bio

No.........he's tan.

#39 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6349 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6349 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15: I mean that his skin color is not black, he's just a tan white guy.

#43 Posted by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6349 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15: Ok. Let me put this in words you can comprehend. He (Lex Luthor) is a white guy (as in Caucasian) with slightly darker skin (tan). Not black (African American). An actual black guy from the show is shown in post 32 with a completely different skin tone. Do you understand now, or are you a troll?

#45 Edited by ganon15 (1544 posts) - - Show Bio

@rulerofthisuniverse said:

@ganon15: Ok. Let me put this in words you can comprehend. He (Lex Luthor) is a white guy (as in Caucasian) with slightly darker skin (tan). Not black (African American). An actual black guy from the show is shown in post 32 with a completely different skin tone. Do you understand now, or are you a troll?

We're talking about Superman TAS Luthor here, not comic book Luthor. And in DCAU the skin tones of African Americans varied too. And I'm not a troll, mate.

#46 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6349 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15: When did I ever say anything about comic book Luthor?

#47 Edited by modernww2fare (1240 posts) - - Show Bio

@ganon15 said:

And if that doesn't convince you:

"From one brotha to anotha"

Standing next to that black guy, yeah, Luthor does look very black. But in general he usually looks like Billy Zane.

#48 Edited by Dernman (15159 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this like the 100th (exaggeration) time this has been asked on CV.

Trivia from the Superman Animated wiki. Take it's value for whatever you want.

Due to Lex Luthor's pronounced lips and tanned skin, several fans mistakingly thought he was African-American. This is due to the Telly Savalas inspiration for his look - the reason for which is that producer Bruce Timm thought of Clancy Brown's take on Luthor as a "cultured thug", the same way he saw Savalas' Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Timm's favorite Bond film). Sometimes, the animated Luthor is portrayed as being distinctly darker than the people around him, and sometimes (like the shot in "A Little Piece of Home" where Luthor literally puts his face right into Superman's) his skin color is exactly the same as everybody else. Timm is rumored to quip that his Lex Luthor must "tan easily."

#50 Posted by modernww2fare (1240 posts) - - Show Bio

He looked like one of the Globetrotters from Scooby Doo

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