Legion
Character » Legion appears in 692 issues.
The son of Charles Xavier and Gabrielle Haller, David Haller is the powerful Omega-level mutant known as Legion. He possesses hundreds of mutant abilities ranging from telekinesis to reality warping, but each power is controlled by a different persona, which could be either benevolent or malevolent.
David Haller as Legion: power level, potential, feats
it was recently brought up to my attention that legion is actually one of the most powerful mutants ever; being the enigma of a mutant and was able to indirectly create two realities with reality warping.. Age of X and Age of Apocalpse putting him on par with Wanda and Franklin.. i didn't know much about the character because he has never really been expounded on and taken into depth unlike other characters in marvel or x men for that matter.. why is he such an underdog and underrated; i know he was an omega level mutant and all but - i didn't realize how powerful. where and how does he fit on the power scale, explain through feats and logic; if so powerful, why isn't he really seen or heard from, especially in the vine. this source even said that he could challenge the White as he created two universes.. can someone explain this character for me please
thank you
@IZZR: the fight did not start out like that, and in a one on one battle Iceman would lose. Especially if he uses the current showing in Legacy's Time-sink's ability.I know but Legions morals were off whereas Iceman wasnt trying to hurt him he was trying to stop him, if it was a bloodlusted battle between the 2 and they both triggered their potential i think Iceman would turn the frost up and the cold would be too much for legion to even think or concentrate
Legion didn't actually warp reality to create the Age of Apocalypse. He traveled back in time and accidentally killed Professor X thus causing a time paradox.
Legion is definitely on a power level with Franklin Richards... Franklin Richards is likely more powerful (just an educated guess) but Legion is in his league...
Legion took ALL OF EXISTENCE and put it into a box... A little box... Outside of that box he created a reality where mutants lived within a compound fighting off the attacks of non-mutants every day.... If he's powerful enough to put all of existence into a box, he's he's one of the most powerful beings in existence.
He REMOVED THE ELDER GODS from existence. He ENDED them... gone.... Now, it's silly for people to talk about freezing legion, or hitting him, or zapping him... The guy ENDED THE ELDER GODS with a thought...a thought... Galactus couldn't even do that... The Celestials couldn't do that...
So, how powerful is Legion??? He's sort of like a living infinity gauntlet...
@Jake Fury: how would he fair against the White Crown Phoenix... since apparently he did something that she did similarly, creating two realities, setting right the universe he created: Age of X... and having over a 1000 dangerous personalities/powersets...When he put all of existence in a box (AOX) technically, all things Phoenix went into that box as well... That's not to say, the Pheonix couldn't do the same thing to him....
Legion is definitely on a power level with Franklin Richards... Franklin Richards is likely more powerful (just an educated guess) but Legion is in his league... Legion took ALL OF EXISTENCE and put it into a box... A little box... Outside of that box he created a reality where mutants lived within a compound fighting off the attacks of non-mutants every day.... If he's powerful enough to put all of existence into a box, he's he's one of the most powerful beings in existence. He REMOVED THE ELDER GODS from existence. He ENDED them... gone.... Now, it's silly for people to talk about freezing legion, or hitting him, or zapping him... The guy ENDED THE ELDER GODS with a thought...a thought... Galactus couldn't even do that... The Celestials couldn't do that... So, how powerful is Legion??? He's sort of like a living infinity gauntlet...You know i never thought of him that way, but it makes perfect sense... Living infinity Gauntlet.
now he's getting overrated...put one universe in box NOT ALL...
& white phoenix would stomp him with ease as whould HOM Wanda... so would ANY IG user
lets see the elder gods feat? anyon got scans? was it even the true elder gods or just some crap gods called that?
White Phoenix of the crown has no real feats. It was said she broke wanda's reality warp but that's PIS, so is the whole Hope being born, even though Destiny foretold it long before she disappear hence the search for Destiny Diary saga.now he's getting overrated...put one universe in box NOT ALL... & white phoenix would stomp him with ease as whould HOM Wanda... so would ANY IG user lets see the elder gods feat? anyon got scans? was it even the true elder gods or just some crap gods called that?
@Static Shock said:
Because this isn't a battle thread, I'll have to move it to the Legion forum page.
Hooray for Static!
@BMEZY said:
why isn't he really seen or heard from
To be fair, he was dead for over a decade ;) He was killed at the end of the Age of Apocalypse in order to save Xavier & thus restore normal reality. Since his return to life he's been locked up in Utopia and operated on in order to kill his thousands of personalities... and has occasionally been wheeled out as a 'Mutant God' in order to save the X-Men from Nimrods & Elder Gods.
I love Mike Carey for turning David Haller into a character, and not just a caricature of the mentally fragile young man we saw in the 1980's. I loved seeing Legion as a strong & dedicated orce Warrior during the Age of X, and I love seeing him as a young man determined to prove himself in subsequent issues of X-Men Legacy.
:)@Static Shock said:
Because this isn't a battle thread, I'll have to move it to the Legion forum page.Hooray for Static!
@IZZR: New Mutants 2009 #4, He a persona that is the absence of heat, which could have been possibly create due to his run-in with bobby.
@blacharrt: I believe he's implying that the term Elder Gods has been used by Marvel, on various separate occasions, to describe very different beings, and so is identifying these ones referred to here, as different to whatever ones he might be referring to, of which their are numerous. I could be wrong though in speaking for him though.It would be better if he clarified which elder gods he is talking about because these Elder Gods, are the same ones Belasco has served since when he ruled limbo.
@SC said:@blacharrt: I believe he's implying that the term Elder Gods has been used by Marvel, on various separate occasions, to describe very different beings, and so is identifying these ones referred to here, as different to whatever ones he might be referring to, of which their are numerous. I could be wrong though in speaking for him though.It would be better if he clarified which elder gods he is talking about because these Elder Gods, are the same ones Belasco has served since when he ruled limbo.
I am sure he would be happy to oblige and clarify, *smile* I'm just not sure dismissing him as clearly confused is the best way though to be honest?
I think he might be referring to the named ones Set and Gaea and Chthon etc
@SC: It would be nice, but considering that even in the scan they are referred to as elder gods, I don't know why he would say they aren't it. Hence saying he must be confusing them with something else. I'm sure it's just a simple misunderstanding.
*Edited
It would be fairly easy to find out by say, asking him? Which is my point *smile* Its okay to just ask people nicely? Just seems rather harsh to just call them clearly confused, which its not that clear and they might not even be confused? Lets say even if they are clearly confused, is that line even necessary? I do definitely agree with you, that these characters were Elder gods. Not the only Elder gods in Marvel though. (which I am sure you are aware of also *smile*)
I guess it could be seen as harsh intent with the word usage, but there was none at all. It can be seen that way but that would clearly depend on the person's perception. "Confused" only implied confusion on the topic that was brought up, which is clear from his reaction before the posted scans and after. About the necessity of the line, i type how i talk, and sense you can't hear tone or inflection i can see how it can be taken the wrong way.
I have no problem at all clarifying misunderstanding, communication is how problems are solved and minds are expanded.
I know, for many, any talk of Elder gods, in any context, just usually means comparisons or talking about some of the bigger guns, like Set and Chthon. Not that I feel the same way, but thats just a persons discretion at work.
@izzr: doode the legion is the most powerful mutant, so he could easily kill him
Here on Comicvines battle forum, Legion has defeated the flash family: Thawn, savitar, wally, barry, Bart, Garrick, mercury, Jesse, Johnny and professor Zoom. also on several other posts, he has dominated Odin, Silver surfer, Dormammu and Thanos. so judging from that, he is somewhere between galactic/high skyfather and universal in marvels power ranking.
Legion has over 1000 different personalities with powers and new ones are constantly being created. Of that 1000 at least 200 of them are Omega.
I absolutely love the show Legion of FX. It's easily the most artistic and intellectual thing to come out of Marvel. In the show he displays a whole host of psychic/psionic powers including: telekinesis, telepathy, hovering, flight, Matter and Mental Manipulations, Astral Projection, and his greatest power: Reality Warping.
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