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    Character » Kyle Rayner appears in 1664 issues.

    Originally thought to be chosen by chance, it was later revealed that Ganthet chose Kyle Rayner because he had the ability to harness the powers of the emotional spectrum. Once the Torchbearer of the Green Lantern Corps, Kyle graduated to the role Ganthet had intended for him: the White Lantern. After the White Ring is separated into seven rings, Kyle returns to being a Green Lantern Corpsman.

    where does Kyle belong now?

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    #1  Edited By Methos

    just a random thought...

    in the last issue, Kyle was given his power ring back by two of the 'expelled' Guardians...

    so he doesn't have a sector to patrol like the rest of the GL's...

    where does he go now?

    i actually like the idea of him being "a free agent", it kinda fits his character :D

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    #2  Edited By Methos

    making him a better lantern yes... his confidence does need some work...

    but i';m not sure he should go the way of the corps, he's always done his own thing and it's worked for him, i think he should continue doing his own thing and working to his own rules

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    #3  Edited By The Ion

    yea i like it better for him to be a free agent. But i wonder what his story would be like if he was an honor guard.

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    #4  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    Where would you like his story to go?

    I wouldn't mind them making him a better Lantern. I know he has done a lot, but to work on his weaknesses, say confidence I hear is a weak point on him?

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    #5  Edited By Methos

    nah, Honor Guard is Guy's thing...

    i think Kyle needs to find his own place now

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    #6  Edited By Nighthunter

    maybe he'll help ganthet and sayd because he knows that Ganthet is right almost everytime

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    #7  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    Methos says:

    "making him a better lantern yes... his confidence does need some work...but i';m not sure he should go the way of the corps, he's always done his own thing and it's worked for him, i think he should continue doing his own thing and working to his own rulesM"

    I think they will need him again, and he will come through like a bat out of hell he'll be there when the mourning comes...sorry. thinks for a second Oh Crap! knows its stuck in his head

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    #8  Edited By The Ion

    Lord Shazam says:

    "I wouldn't mind him searching the galaxies. Does his ring need charging?"

    Yea probably but now he will keep his battery in that pocket universe.

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    #9  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    I wouldn't mind him searching the galaxies. Does his ring need charging?

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    #10  Edited By Methos

    Lord Shazam says:

    "I think they will need him again, and he will come through like a bat out of hell he'll be there when the mourning comes...sorry. *thinks for a second* Oh Crap! *knows its stuck in his head*"

    starts singing Bat out of Hell

    good one :D

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    Nightwingprodigalson says:

    "maybe he'll help ganthet and sayd because he knows that Ganthet is right almost everytime"

    I can see that

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    Lord Shazam says:

    "I wouldn't mind him searching the galaxies. Does his ring need charging?"

    Yup, and he has his own Power Battery that holds one quarter of the Parallax entity inside it...

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    #11  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "Lord Shazam says:
    "I think they will need him again, and he will come through like a bat out of hell he'll be there when the mourning comes...sorry. *thinks for a second* Oh Crap! *knows its stuck in his head*"
    ***starts singing Bat out of Hell*** good one :D M Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "maybe he'll help ganthet and sayd because he knows that Ganthet is right almost everytime"
    I can see that M Lord Shazam says:
    "I wouldn't mind him searching the galaxies. Does his ring need charging?"
    Yup, and he has his own Power Battery that holds one quarter of the Parallax entity inside it... M"

    so is that a big deal if it holds the parallax entity?

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    #12  Edited By Nighthunter

    The Ion says:

    "Methos says:
    "Lord Shazam says:
    "I think they will need him again, and he will come through like a bat out of hell he'll be there when the mourning comes...sorry. *thinks for a second* Oh Crap! *knows its stuck in his head*"
    ***starts singing Bat out of Hell*** good one :D M Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "maybe he'll help ganthet and sayd because he knows that Ganthet is right almost everytime"
    I can see that M Lord Shazam says:
    "I wouldn't mind him searching the galaxies. Does his ring need charging?"
    Yup, and he has his own Power Battery that holds one quarter of the Parallax entity inside it... M"

    so is that a big deal if it holds the parallax entity?"

    well also Hal's, John's and Guy's lantern do that

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    #13  Edited By Methos

    Nightwingprodigalson says:

    "well also Hal's, John's and Guy's lantern do that"

    yup

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    The Ion says:

    "so is that a big deal if it holds the parallax entity?"

    wait untill next issue to find out lol

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    #14  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "well also Hal's, John's and Guy's lantern do that"
    yup M The Ion says:
    "so is that a big deal if it holds the parallax entity?"
    wait untill next issue to find out lol M "

    and when is that suppose to be coming out?

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    #15  Edited By Methos

    The Ion says:

    "and when is that suppose to be coming out?"

    'bout a fortnight i think...

    M

    Lord Shazam says:

    "I'll be back on in an hour,just gonna walk home now. It is 02:12 in the mourning like. see yeah soon."

    see ya in a bit

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    #16  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    I'll be back on in an hour,just gonna walk home now. It is 02:12 in the mourning like. see yeah soon.

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    #17  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?

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    #18  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

    Methos says:

    "where does he go now?"

    Into a dumpster

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    #19  Edited By Methos

    Lord Shazam says:

    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"

    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle...

    since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible

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    #20  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    Donnieman v5.1 says:

    "Methos says:
    "where does he go now?"

    Into a dumpster"

    rifles ready? aim! fire!!

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    #21  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "Lord Shazam says:
    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"
    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle... since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible M"

    what exaclty can the starheart do?

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    #22  Edited By Nighthunter

    The Ion says:

    "Methos says:
    "Lord Shazam says:
    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"
    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle... since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible M"

    what exaclty can the starheart do?"

    with it she could use the original's green lantern power without a ring...or at least that's what I tought it was

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    #23  Edited By Nighthunter

    The Ion says:

    "Methos says:
    "The Ion says:
    "Methos says:
    "Lord Shazam says:
    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"
    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle... since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible M"
    what exaclty can the starheart do?"
    in it's entirity The Starheart was a reality Warper on The Specters scale... see Heart of Darkness for more details about it... it's basically all the raw chaos magic in the universe wrapped up in a nice little green ball :D Alan Scott controls a portion of it, so does Obsidian and do *did* Jade... M"

    which now in kyle. So wait now that ion left kyle does he still have the starheart?

    "

    I don't think he still has it

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    #24  Edited By Methos

    The Ion says:

    "Methos says:
    "Lord Shazam says:
    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"
    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle... since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible M"

    what exaclty can the starheart do?"

    in it's entirity The Starheart was a reality Warper on The Specters scale...

    see Heart of Darkness for more details about it...

    it's basically all the raw chaos magic in the universe wrapped up in a nice little green ball :D

    Alan Scott controls a portion of it, so does Obsidian and do did Jade...

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    #25  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "The Ion says:
    "Methos says:
    "Lord Shazam says:
    "Maybe find away to bring Jade back to life? She is dead isn't she?"
    meh... she's dead, but she's The Starheart... which now exists within Kyle... since The Starheart is pure magic, bleh... anything and everything is possible M"
    what exaclty can the starheart do?"
    in it's entirity The Starheart was a reality Warper on The Specters scale... see Heart of Darkness for more details about it... it's basically all the raw chaos magic in the universe wrapped up in a nice little green ball :D Alan Scott controls a portion of it, so does Obsidian and do *did* Jade... M"

    which now in kyle. So wait now that ion left kyle does he still have the starheart?

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    #26  Edited By Methos

    Nightwingprodigalson says:

    "I don't think he still has it"

    The Ion says:

    "which now in kyle. So wait now that ion left kyle does he still have the starheart?"

    Ion was never anything do to with the starheart, so yeah... i guess it's still in him somewhere

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    #27  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "I don't think he still has it"
    The Ion says:
    "which now in kyle. So wait now that ion left kyle does he still have the starheart?"
    Ion was never anything do to with the starheart, so yeah... i guess it's still in him somewhere M "

    thats actual cool that he still has it. I thought the ion symbiote took it with him when it left kyle.

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    #28  Edited By Methos

    Nah... the Starheart is absolutely nothing to do with Ion or The Guardians...

    if Ion had taken it, then it would have left Alan and Obsidian as well

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    #29  Edited By Nighthunter

    Methos says:

    "Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "I don't think he still has it"

    The Ion says:

    "which now in kyle. So wait now that ion left kyle does he still have the starheart?"

    Ion was never anything do to with the starheart, so yeah... i guess it's still in him somewhere

    M

    "

    I tought that it was because of the starheart that he became ion?

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    #30  Edited By Methos

    Nightwingprodigalson says:

    "I tought that it was because of the starheart that he became ion?"

    pre-retcon yes...

    post retcot it was the symbiote spit, nothing to do with the Starheart...

    see why i hate Retcon's now, they throw off everything when i'm trying to sort out character histories lol

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    #31  Edited By Nighthunter

    Methos says:

    "Nightwingprodigalson says:
    "I tought that it was because of the starheart that he became ion?"

    pre-retcon yes...

    post retcot it was the symbiote spit, nothing to do with the Starheart...

    see why i hate Retcon's now, they throw off everything when i'm trying to sort out character histories lol

    M"

    oh ok, I kinda tought that the ion simbiote was created from the starheart

    think it is cause from kyle rayner as ion I only read the torchbearer and then the siniestro corps

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    #32  Edited By Nighthunter

    Methos says:

    "right, i'm off...more Starheart arguments tomorrowM"

    nights methos

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    #33  Edited By Methos

    right, i'm off...

    more Starheart arguments tomorrow

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    #34  Edited By The Ion

    Methos says:

    "right, i'm off... more Starheart arguments tomorrow M"

    see ya

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    #35  Edited By Hagane Enna

    Donnieman v5.1 says:

    "Methos says:
    "where does he go now?"
    Into a dumpster"
    *walks by whistling nonchalantly* I was going to say something about him keeping an eye on the child molester Lantern... Seriously, wouldn't he get reassigned a sector or go back to his old one? Take Yat's maybe?
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    #36  Edited By Copy

    Thought of bringing this back because we now know he is the honor guard with Guy.

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    #37  Edited By LexiCat

    The Starheart is the essential embodiment of everything magical.. It does have the wood weakness that the Green Lantern Power Rings have. So it isn't completely omnipotent..

    Jade gave up her piece of it... that which resided inside of her....when she died after stopping Alexander Luthor's plan to destroy the world. As Methos said, pre-retcon.. She gave that up to Kyle and it enabled him to become Ion. But, since they've done the retcon, they've ruined one of my favorite stories and moments and turned it into something completely blah. Oh Ion's a disease.. a symbiote. Don't they do symboites enough with Spider-Man? Do we need one in the Green Lantern Universe as well?

    Since Kyle is essentially still in possession of that piece of the Starheart given to him by Jade, I want that to come back into play. It can really do just about anything, so finding a way of bringing her back.. of resurrecting her... at this point I'm not picky how they bring her back. I'll just be happy that they do. It gives Kyle another dynamic to explore, because there's plenty of unresolved issues there. And it would be nice to see her have a change of heart and admit she was wrong to cheat..

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    #38  Edited By Copy

    Cheat?

    Oh and welcome to the vine. And nice post.

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    #39  Edited By LexiCat

    Thanks Copy. Glad to be here!

    Well.. I know you know the story. Jade and Kyle decided to leave Earth together to pursue their future. Well, Jade wanted to come back. Kyle didn't. So they parted ways and she returned to earth. There was never really any "Let's Break Off the Engagement" talk, not specifically. (Of course for me, that's sort of wishful thinking) Anyway, once she returned to earth, she took up with an UN-Named man and was living with him. Kyle returned and "found" out about their relationship. It crushed him and that's when the engagement was officially broken off. After breaking off the engagement, she shortly there after ended the relationship with said un-named man. So.. I look at it in a couple of ways..

    1. She was afraid of things getting serious. She loved Kyle. No question.. But when it got down to the real of it all, I think she panicked and went and did something she later regretted.

    2. I believe that Kyle was definitely consumed with "finding" his purpose and in that, she felt that he wasn't really giving the relationship everything he could. She saw potential problems down the road and maybe that influenced her decsions.

    Either way, I believe that she regrets deeply everything that went down before her death. I know they made some sort of peace as they worked together to stop Luthor, but... still.. I ultimately believe that if they resurrect her, she and Kyle have some serious stuff to sit and talk about. Because I want this couple to work and I believe they can. They have incredible chemistry and the fact that even her father approves of Kyle? Good sign...

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    #40  Edited By LexiCat

    ...why do I like to get inside Jade's head? Well, I actually play her in a comic universe online roleplaying community. She is like one of my favorite characters and I've tossed this dynamic around alot with my roleplaying of her. In the community I play her, we actually did have them resolve issues and they are currently married. So.. yeah that's what I'm aiming for in the comic continuity. :D

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    #41  Edited By Exusiai

    LexiCat says:

    "...why do I like to get inside Jade's head? Well, I actually play her in a comic universe online roleplaying community. She is like one of my favorite characters and I've tossed this dynamic around alot with my roleplaying of her. In the community I play her, we actually did have them resolve issues and they are currently married. So.. yeah that's what I'm aiming for in the comic continuity. :D"

    Plays Kyle there with her

    and yes, Lexi gets very into Jade's head. Quite well...

    As for where Kyle Belongs.. Honor Guard all the way, he and Guy ....

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    #42  Edited By Gottheit

    he should be

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