@mixmastamicah5: agreed
Kaine
Character » Kaine appears in 430 issues.
Kaine was the first clone of Spider-Man created by the Jackal. He was suffering from clone degeneration and became an assassin and spent years tormenting his clone brother, Ben Reilly. He has since taken up the mantle his now dead brother as the new Scarlet Spider.
Kaine's Final (?) Fate Revealed in SCARLET SPIDER #25
I am soooo disappointed.
I knew it would be coming eventually, but I just hoped it would last a little longer. I've been buying this series every month since the first issue. Loved every second of it. Kaine is a great character.
You know what I wanted to happen??? In my fantasy world, Kaine finds out Ock stole Parker's body, beats the hell out of him, and becomes the new Spiderman...for a VERY long time...with Chris Yost as the new Spiderman writer. I'm aware it would never happen, but I wish.
I don't care for Ock-Spidey, and I really don't care for Dan Slott. He's not the worst writer but he's not the best either. Hit and miss for me. And every time I see someone else write Spiderman (like in Avenging, or in some Avengers thing, or even just a small appearence in something else) I think, "Why aren't they writing Spiderman?"
When Superior started I picked up the first issue (knowing it was Doc Ock but willing to give it a chance) and was done. It wasn't bad...but it wasn't good either. Haven't read it since. I actually sold the first issue to my brother because I didn't care to keep it (and he liked it).
Where do I start?!
I'm at a loss of words for the most part. This was one of the first of four titles I picked up and have enjoyed since its run. I was always a Spider-Man fan but with the changes since Parker's death and Doc Oct taking over never caught my eye. I am now reduced to one Marvel title left. I started giving DC more or a chance when I noticed that every Marvel title was either about X-Men or Avengers. I like both enough but will not succumb to any of their titles. I am just so disappointed with Marvel now since Gambit, Venom, and Scarlet Spider are ending. I hope they redeem themselves with making a Spider-Man 2099 comic again or something worth reading over their other titles.
Scarlet Spider aka Kaine you will be miss sorely.
The biggest problem i'm having with this is , if Kaine doesn't trade off into another book they cant just say to us "oh just go back and read all his past stories, those are still there" we've read all of them and kaine in the clone saga isn't the one we know and love
what about the story involving zoe walsh the daughter of the roxxon head? or the jackal and spidercide 2.0? lets not forget the entire aracely story involving aztec gods. These are the stories I want wrapped up but its not looking so good now is it..
Well I haven't been reading this with any regularity so I'm not really torn up about it. At least now if I start reading it again I know I'm headed towards a presumably definitive ending. If you ask me you can't really have a happy ending when clones are involved. Riley was the only one who shouldn't degrade unnaturally so it seems like Kaine was doomed from the start. Between stuff like Deadpool, Jonah Hex, and New Avengers I'm sort of covered on the anti-hero front. Sorry Scarlet Spider fans. It couldn't have happened to a nicer clone.
@poncho: not exactly but when scarlet spider launched as the anti spiderman then a few months later Superior is the same damn thing ,that might account for a loss in sales
Well this is an unfortunate turn of events. I just got the first Scarlet Spider trade not too long ago, I was (and still am) planning on getting the rest of the series and on getting Venom, and now both series are canceled. I was way more interested in Kaine and Flash Thompson than I've ever been in Peter Parker.
I hope that Kaine gives Kraven his wish and ends him. Then maybe he could join p with the Thunderbolts?
@mrgreenlantern: a few months? Scarlet Spider was heading into it's second year when Superior #1 came out if I remember correctly.
The reason why both Venom and Scarlett Spider got cancelled could be attributed to the fact that none of the writers seem interested in bringing in a larger reading audience. For example, Scarlett Spider could have brought in a few characters from the X-Men, Avengers, and Spider-Man's rogue galleries and allies. Imagine if Kain was working alongside Mystique and the Taskmaster, as well as Moondragon? As for Venom, imagine if the symbiote was able to regrow Flash's legs, as well as working alongside Dr. Don Blake, Robin Vega, and Longshot? I think that the writers for these titles do not know how to promote their books in the same manner as Dan Slott. The key to a successful series in not just about writing a good story dialog; it's about the ability to attract a wide audience from the most popular comic titles and bringing some of those related characters unto their title series. I am sure that if the writer for Venom had brought in the Black Cat and Menace, it might have increased sales; especially if the Toxin symbiote was on Julia Carpenter instead of Eddie Brock.
@darthfury78: Have you read any Scarlet Spider comic book? It seems to me you haven't.
Sigh...
the best spider character gone :(
@iaconpoint: Really? Ashamed for what? Because we find Superior Spider-Man an interesting concept and take on the character of "Spider-Man" rather than Peter Parker. Don't worry, I'm sure Peter will find a way to be reincarnated - probably in a clone body… hmmm, Kaine's not got much to do now - so why hate on Superior Spider-Man fans when we all know Peter will be back as the Amazing Spider-Man!
@darthfury78: Have you read any Scarlet Spider comic book? It seems to me you haven't.
No one has. That's why it's heading toward cancellation =P
No one has. That's why it's heading toward cancellation =P
It was above the 20,000 mark that seems to be the norm for cancelling a series. Hell DC titles like Demon Knights and I, Vampire had to go below 15,000 before they got cancelled. Marvel is axing one of their best series too soon.
Oh, and no Captain Marvel solicit again either, even after Kelly Sue assured us it wasn't cancelled. So that's 5 books from my pull list gone in 4 months.
*Sigh*
Here I was excited that Kaine was going to Mexico. I thought, finally a Marvel super hero in Mexico but noooooo sales had to ruin it and have his series canceled before he arrives.
@phaedrusgr: Yes. I have read Scarlet Spider. But the problem, in my opinion is that the writer didn't try bring in characters like Moondragon, Snowbird, Omega Red, and Red She-Hulk into the mix. Moondragon could have helped Kaine a get deal at overcoming his demons through her mental training with him.
@darthfury78: Still at it I see.
@poncho: you missed my point entirely , what was the reason to introduce another anti hero in the spider family? the fact Superior Exist takes sales from Scarlet spider .Look at it this way casual fan walks into LCS sees Superior Spiderman flips through then does the same with Scarlet, 95% of the time people will buy the book with peter, dont kid yourself into thinking otherwise
anyone else notice Slott took a leave of absence from twitter a day or two before this news broke..conspiracy!!!!!
@k4tzm4n: yeah but what are the odds of those plans being congruent with Yost's character development?
@iaconpoint: By comparison to Venom and Scarlet Spider I can't help but agree. Plus "abortion" of a title is just hilarious also.
sad sad day for this spider-fan... the only marvel titles ive read over the last 5 years have been x-23, amazing spider-man, venom, scarlet spider, gambit, and superior spider-man.
why doesnt marvel want my money?
it's sad the only spider title i found interesting is being cancelled.
venom didn't interest me.
'superior' just comes across so rubbish. if i wanted to read about bad guys winning i would read the newspaper.
scarlet spider (to me) felt like a real story of redemption with the main character not turning into a wuss.
@daddy_xero: Yup, totally agree with you!
WHY?! They took Peter from, their taking Venom from and now my Scarlet Spider...damn them, a plague a plague I say unto both their houses.
Ps what does he mean when he said Flash might lose the symbiote because of what's going on in Superior Spider-Man
@iaconpoint: ashamed? What for? I'm a spider-man fan. Can't I read me some spider-man?:)
@spiderx: god so many stories left without being fully told THIS SUCKS!
I doubt the Ultimate Universe is ending. All their titles are doing well and even Ultimate Comics Spider-man takes places in the future (there was a time jump a few issues back), so I think it's pretty safe.
Hate seeing Scarlet Spider get cancelled as well as Venom. It seems that whenever I read spin off's of other heroes, they get the boot (I was reading Wolverine, X-23 and Daken before until the last two got cancelled). Seems people like their spin off clone characters, but not enough to keep steady sales of their series. Oh well, hopefully this means Scarlet Spider or Venom (if Flash keeps the symbiote) will be in Superior Spider-man.
'cmon Marvel! It was selling 22,000 plus the past months! How is that bad? The more amazing titles DC and Marvel cancel, the less money they will be getting from me!
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