How will Kaine react to Ben Reilly's return?

#1 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

So, it seems that Ben Reilly returns (Scarlet Spider #21). How will Kaine react? Do you think that Ben will reclaim his mantle? Furthermore, if that's the case, will Kaine be "eager" to give it back?

#2 Posted by Strider92 (16838 posts) - - Show Bio

@phaedrusgr: I reckon this is going to another Jackal Clone. Ben was his first success at cloning Peter so it does stand to reason he would keep some of the data on how he created Ben (or even DNA of Ben himself) incase he ever needed to recreate a perfect copy of Pete again.

I think its going to be a clone of Ben reprogrammed by the Jackal that Kaine will end up killing.

#3 Edited by ArturoCalaKayVee (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

What if this new Ben Reilly will eventually be the body used for Peters consciousness to return and fight off SpOck until they can swap bodes?

#4 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: Yost said he's Ben Reilly. That means memories etc. Of course, we can all guess Jackal's clone could have Ben's memories somehow someway, if that serves the plot.

@arturocalakayvee: I thought of that. I don't know if that's the exit Slott has imagined for his "redeemed hero" a.k.a. Doc Ock. It's a possibility though.

I'm really curious at the moment, cause things are soooo complicated for the Spider family.

#5 Posted by Strider92 (16838 posts) - - Show Bio

@phaedrusgr: Well Miles fought Ben on many occasions during the clone saga it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility that he has a copy of Ben's DNA after he became the Scarlet Spider and thus has the memories.

#6 Posted by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight,knowing that Pete's Octapus,and generally sh*t happens!!!!
If Pete was Spider-Man i woul've been REALLY excited!!

#7 Posted by danhimself (22720 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not going to get to excited Marvel has been all about teasing Ben's return with no pay off for the past few years

#8 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes bring in Ben !

#9 Posted by SadiaVicious (136 posts) - - Show Bio

If they kill off Kaine AGAIN, I'll be pissed.

#10 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@sadiavicious: Yeah, Kaine must remain alive and keep the Scarlet Spider mantle. He's doing great thanks to Yost of course. I don't think Yost has Kaine's death in his mind. Nevertheless, I want to see Ben, don't know what his role would be, but I definitely want to see him coming back.

#11 Posted by frogdog (3569 posts) - - Show Bio

Christopher Yost: I see Ben Reilly's character through Kaine's lens: the man that Kaine tortured and hounded for so long, the perfect clone of Spider-Man. The clone that Kaine wasn't. The true hero, the man who gave his life for Peter. The ideal that Kaine can never live up to.

So what do you do when your hero wants you dead?

More on Marvel.com:

http://marvel.com/news/story/20778/wednesday_qa_christopher_yost#ixzz2X5EnkzVJ

#12 Edited by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Edited by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Reilly's appearance could be a product of hallucination poisons used by Kravs. I think Kraven is trying to get Kaine to re-kill him, given he's also Peter in a way and might rid him of the "unlife" curse.

#14 Posted by frogdog (3569 posts) - - Show Bio

@8008s said:

Reilly's appearance could be a product of hallucination poisons used by Kravs. I think Kraven is trying to get Kaine to re-kill him, given he's also Peter in a way and might rid him of the "unlife" curse.

Interesting theory with Kraven, considering that the covers have the tombs of annabelle and other supporting cast.

Fight, fight, fight, fight...

@frogdog, @strider92, @punyparker

#15 Edited by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio

At the end of 20 the Jackal is holding a KAINE "bottle" or something....with Kaine's DNA particles.....there's no return....the new Ben is a Kaine clone.

#16 Posted by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio

#17 Posted by pulseangel666 (313 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel plz, don't kill Kaine he is my favorit spider. you already cancelled venom, cancel superior instead and leave Kaine and Flash alone!

#18 Posted by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio

@punyparker: You know shit just got serious when Kaine's mask eyes go big.

#19 Posted by tupiaz (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

Ben is the only real Scarlet Spider. Kaine will probably step down to show respect. That is the whole reason Kaine is calling him self Scarlet Spider, to show respect to Ben. therefore it makes no sense for Kaine not to step down. Ben is even closer to be the real Spider-man than even PP before spock. Anyways I don't really care since I don't read anything from the Spider-man universe anymore.

#20 Posted by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@phaedrusgr: Well Miles fought Ben on many occasions during the clone saga it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility that he has a copy of Ben's DNA after he became the Scarlet Spider and thus has the memories.

Well he is a clone of Kaine shown in the current issue cause he lost all the DNA of spock but there is a thing called memory implants.

#22 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Edited by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio

@punyparker: Yeah, you're probably right.

See that people?!.....that's called "reasonable man".....agreeing with me!... :P

#24 Posted by omegma (124 posts) - - Show Bio

@phaedrusgr: It is not really Ben Reilly but Kraven the Hunter because he darted him with a strange drug within the previous issue.

#25 Edited by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Edited by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Posted by Mrgreenlantern (661 posts) - - Show Bio

great issue ! loved the pace of the issue going from each one of the people kaine cares for back to the big reveal oooo Cant wait for next issue

#29 Posted by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaine noticed it wasn't the real Ben, yet after having Ock try and kill him he just went the "gee Peter's being an asshole these days" route. Sigh.

Other than that, nice issue.

#30 Posted by Mrgreenlantern (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@8008s: I never thought of it that way... thats true how come he questions that being Ben yet he just wrote peter off as being a dick

#31 Edited by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrgreenlantern: I suppose the consequences of Superior are being delayed so that the story can go on in this status quo. Sadly it means making half the characters in the MU obnoxiously dumb.

#32 Edited by PunyParker (12611 posts) - - Show Bio

@8008s said:

Kaine noticed it wasn't the real Ben, yet after having Ock try and kill him he just went the "gee Peter's being an asshole these days" route. Sigh.

Other than that, nice issue.

That's getting frustraiting......people are not dumb

#33 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@8008s:

"Reilly's appearance could be a product of hallucination poisons used by Kravs. I think Kraven is trying to get Kaine to re-kill him, given he's also Peter in a way and might rid him of the "unlife" curse".

Words of wisdom!

#34 Posted by 8008S (518 posts) - - Show Bio

@phaedrusgr: thank you kind sir. I just hope the series isn't ending at #25 like PunyParker? said.

#35 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@8008s: Yeah, I'm with you on this. It's my favourite series at the time being.

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