Why WWII Earth 2 Should Return (Repost from Earth 2 forum)

#1 Edited by bloggerboy (594 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been reading Earth 2 from James Robinson and it's an entertaining, fresh read. However as a fan of the Justice Society I can't help but think that something is lost in the modernization of the characters present in Earth 2. One of the biggest advantages of Earth 2 was the huge contrast between it and the "main" earth, whatever it gets called.

By placing Earth 2 in World War II you automatically get an interesting setting and the goofy Golden Age characters just work so much better in that enviroment. It feels like a new world and an interesting twist. We've seen these stories and redoing them again wouldn't be New. I get that. I'm all for updating the concept and tweaking it to get new outcomes. However ending with a dead Superman, a dead Batman and a dead Wonder Woman is hardly an improvement on Clark Kent the gray-haired Superman and the editor of the Daily Star. Having Batman be the police commissioner of Earth 2 is another nice plot that should get an update. As for Diana, well I liked having Hippolyta as Wonder Woman. Robinson's version might have Fury as the next WW or so I'm hoping.

In this instance modernization doesn't work as well though. It will only get worse when the crossovers start happening. You will essentially end up with two Justice Leagues (assuming a Society is formed). And we already have Justice League of America and Justice League Dark. A World War II Justice League would make things more interesting. It would make Earth 2 special. Now it feels like an alternate timeline instead of a parallel earth. I get that Jay Garrick and Barry Allen are different personas with different costumes and experiences but an older Jay would work as a bigger, better contrast when these two finally meet.

It's not like we would lose anything with these changes. I could see Robinson's stories play out the way they did even in a different setting. The biggest changes would be occuring in World's Finest and that title honestly hasn't been anything spectacular. Paul Levitz wrote some fantastic Justice Society stuff in the 70's. He could use help in World's Finest and what better way for more interesting stories than to have Helena and Kara drop from Earth 2's WWII to the present day of the prime earth.

It's too early to talk about reboots and I'm going to stick around with James Robinson's Earth 2. That said, I'll still jump in joy when and if the old school Earth 2 returns one day.

UPDATE: Since Robinson is off Earth 2 I wonder what the future of the book will be like. A shame we can't see Earth 1 and 2 meet with Robinson on board.

#2 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Multiversity is sort of exploring the old pre-coie : earth x (freedom fighters), earth s (fawcett super heroes), charlton super heroes, plus post-coie 1990s earth (wally west, kyle rayner), etc. Multiversity intentionally skips earth 2 probably bec. there is a separate earth 2 title. The old pre-coie earth 2 is probably still somewhere out there and some future multiverse story might visit it. I also enjoy elseworlds stories of the old pre coie earth 1 something similar to New Frontier. With the multiverse, none of the old earths are really lost and they all still happened on some universe.

#3 Posted by SavageDragon (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting. Having never read Justice Society pre New 52 I cant say.

#4 Posted by bloggerboy (594 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: I'm really looking forward to Multiversity. The cynic in me wonders if Robinson leaving DC had something to do with editorial - specifically connected to Grant's book. Maybe James was forced to write Earth 2 around Multiversity or something.

#5 Posted by beatboks1 (7249 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: I'm really looking forward to Multiversity. The cynic in me wonders if Robinson leaving DC had something to do with editorial - specifically connected to Grant's book. Maybe James was forced to write Earth 2 around Multiversity or something.

I'm pretty sure your not the only one feeling cynical. As I see it Robinson had his first two ideas for Earth 2 shot down by editorial ( setting the book in the 40's, and then setting it in the 60's) I would say a third weight tied to his coat tails would have been the final straw.

#6 Posted by bloggerboy (594 posts) - - Show Bio

@bloggerboy said:

@colonyofcells: I'm really looking forward to Multiversity. The cynic in me wonders if Robinson leaving DC had something to do with editorial - specifically connected to Grant's book. Maybe James was forced to write Earth 2 around Multiversity or something.

I'm pretty sure your not the only one feeling cynical. As I see it Robinson had his first two ideas for Earth 2 shot down by editorial ( setting the book in the 40's, and then setting it in the 60's) I would say a third weight tied to his coat tails would have been the final straw.

Robinson wanted to set the book in the 40's initially? I would have loved that. Sure New 52 means new stories and modernization but I think placing the story in WWII would have made it more different compared to Earth Prime.

#7 Posted by RDClip (1131 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm hoping for a new Crisis event were the WWII JSA are weaved into n52u. I miss those old bastards. And screw the 5 year timeline, I want legacy heroes.

#8 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21932 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:
@bloggerboy said:

@colonyofcells: I'm really looking forward to Multiversity. The cynic in me wonders if Robinson leaving DC had something to do with editorial - specifically connected to Grant's book. Maybe James was forced to write Earth 2 around Multiversity or something.

I'm pretty sure your not the only one feeling cynical. As I see it Robinson had his first two ideas for Earth 2 shot down by editorial ( setting the book in the 40's, and then setting it in the 60's) I would say a third weight tied to his coat tails would have been the final straw.

Robinson wanted to set the book in the 40's initially? I would have loved that. Sure New 52 means new stories and modernization but I think placing the story in WWII would have made it more different compared to Earth Prime.

That would've been awesome.

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